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aftermathdestroyer23
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Who went?, I went it was sick the box was tough but dope the judges sucked though. My friend shoudda won best trick switch on 270 out holla!
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Jan 18 2004 5:36PM
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acc
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i went. and if that was the kid on scratches he tore it up and deserved to win. they said travis was the best guy and they gave him a snowboard.

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Jan 18 2004 6:17PM
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aftermathdestroyer23
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which was gay yes he was the kid with the scratches

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Jan 18 2004 6:21PM
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GrippinGs
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a switch on 270 won the jib comp? thats sorry...
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Jan 18 2004 8:21PM
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h3ofilms
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agreed, not taking anything away from Travis' run, which has some crazy shit...but i thought the idea of a s box jam was to get to the end with as much style as possible...i blame Stratton for poor planning

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Jan 18 2004 8:29PM
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aftermathdestroyer23
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switch on 270 off of an s box i think thats pretty sick to me travis' run could hav won for a c box comp but it was an s rail comp and he didnt even make the whole rail
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Jan 18 2004 8:35PM
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el`banditto
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funny...i watched the whole comp, and travis slid it 270 out with the nastyest steezy steeze ever, thats why he won, the switch on 270 out didn't have the stelo, sorry kiddo
Jan 18 2004 9:23PM
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el`banditto
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not to mention the switch 270 on blind side switch up too reguler switch up that he had 3/4 of the way, he didn't get the whole rail but thats plain stupid sick
Jan 18 2004 9:27PM
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johnwiechecki
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No, the judging was really messed up. One kid I knew who was snowboarding made the whole box in qualifying (those of you who were there know only like 5 people got it in qualifying) and didn't make the finals (probably because he's not a VT local).
Yeah, your friend who did the switch on to 270 out definately should have won....no offense to Travis, I just didn't see him get the whole box in qualifying or the finals (but that double switch up was really knar).
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Jan 19 2004 7:37AM
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h3ofilms
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^ exactly...either way who wins isnt a factor to me...what i am seeing a large trend occuring in this year is judges just not telling you what their judging on

example-mount snow rail jam. Kids were smoothly doing switch on to switch outs on the boxes, yet they didnt make finals in favor for a few kids throwing 5's over the entire box...like i said before, i dont care who wins and doesnt (if anything, the kids i was shooting made it further, so good for them/me)

example 2-stratton cold wars #2...there was an s box, it was a rail jam with emphasis on completing the box...if they were going to give good scoring on travis' style of run (which was nasty...some insane shit) then at the beginning of the contest they should have told the athletes that

and at Stratton, the entire judging process is VERY biased toward locals. They were throwing out tshirts in a trivia contest at the end, half the questions they didnt know the answers too...and the other half were all inside jokes that only the core stratton snowboarders knew

also, stratton should keep free skis on hand...travis won a snowboard for best male...hell it has resale value, but if your gonna include skiers that have a chance of winning, lets get them a decent prize

thats my 2 cents..i just hope its not a yearlong trend, cause at both events, ive seen 30+ pissed off kids

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Jan 19 2004 8:56AM
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TKMB
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brook has tried to get ski's for it, but all the ski companies arent interested in sponsoring the event.
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Jan 19 2004 9:26AM
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acc
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travis is the man and all....tears the shit out of rails...but that other kid deserved this one. yeah travis got the entire rail a few times...i don't remember if he did during finals though. those 270s to blind sided switch-up to 270 off was cool but it was like 1/2 to 2/3 down the box. that other kid did awesome with the whole rail then 270...smooth as hell. just my opinion. i'm sure next one will be a better rail or box and they'll all be going off on it.

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Jan 19 2004 10:34AM
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powairs
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I can't speak for the stratton comp, but I can for the Mount Snow rail jam and all of our comps afterwards. The judging is completely based on what looks awesome. For example, in the rail jam, you had kids doing switch on switch off of the boxes, but since they were so close together, it was way sketch. Instead, if you just went slow, made it as smooth as possible, and busted something in the finals, you would have done better. Now, I don't understand how a lincoln over the bottom rail didn't take it, but thats subjectivity for ya. In the future, at least at snow, creativity and originality will win a comp, nothing else and nothing more...

P.S. One of the judges at the jam is on this site as Undercarriage... So PM him...
Jan 19 2004 10:50AM
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h3ofilms
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^ and thats perfectly acceptable...what im saying is that the guidelines for judging should be laid out beforehand, so kids know its cool to gap the box and throw a switch 180 or Malczyks Lincoln over the bottom rail (yeah how did that not win? ) haha

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Jan 19 2004 11:29AM
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GrippinGs
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hows a lincoln over a rail going to win a 'jib' comp. my definition of a rail comp is actually sliding rails and doing tricks on rails. anyone can backflip/lincoln/spin over a rail. but it takes way more skill to blind side switch up, 270 on or off etc...
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Jan 19 2004 12:55PM
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powairs
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if there are 2 rails prior to it, its pretty awesome...
Jan 19 2004 2:37PM
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skodeo7
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The cold wars this time was lame as shit. The signup was the most poorly organized thing ever, you thought they would have learned the first time. Two stratton sponsored athletes couldn't even get in, whats up with that?! As for the prizes, deal with it, even if most people did win skis they would probably resell them regardless so stop your bitching. Brooke is mainly in charge of organizing and she is doing a damn good job. Stratton hasn't had events like this really in the past so its not surprising that its gonna take them a few times to work out the kinks.

As for next time...they are doing online registration to avoid the disasterous registration this time.
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Jan 19 2004 2:48PM
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duncan,

#1 - thats strattons fault for not having the klicks in the contest. pretty dumb i think since they ride for the mountain. for the rest of registration...the reason it was so screwed up was that the guy who runs it didn't show up to work that day so a sms guy that had no clue what he was supossed to do had to run it.

#2 - no one was 'bitching' about the prizes. he was simply making a comment that they should try to get something different for the skiers since they encourage skiers to enter. makes sense correct?

#3 - go smoke a bowl or something and chill the fuck out.

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Jan 19 2004 4:27PM
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TEK.MOB
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what duncan said is perfectly lagit, the only ones who need to 'chill and shut the fuck up' are you bitches, i agree that some judging latley has been off. as for 'laying out guidlines' you must be kidding.....if you don't know by now that judges will score a styly trick over some dirty ass shit that might be a little more tech you are an idiot. and jumping over rails at a rail jam was definatley comendable if your doing it over the stairs, the 5's and 180's over the second set were dank



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Jan 19 2004 5:23PM
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TEK.MOB
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correction 'chill the fuck out'^



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Jan 19 2004 5:32PM
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dilla_says_go
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i didnt go to this comp, but i've seen travis kill it at other comps, and the kids got skills. the fact that he beat out a bunch of snowboarders is pretty sick too. like this one time, i saw him making out with his hot busty blonde, and she fuckin exploded. it was sweet.
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Jan 19 2004 5:35PM
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TKMB
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amanda, you do not know what your talking about. stop posting
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Jan 19 2004 6:02PM
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skodeo7
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The best part of the registration was.....

Guy who had no idea what was up: 'Okay...so...if you think you have been here for a long time, get in the line'

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Jan 19 2004 6:06PM
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aftermathdestroyer23
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all this is true but i dont think they hav had a comp hosted by a snowboard company and judged by snowboarders. Props to travis for beatin out the snowboarders tho
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Jan 19 2004 6:14PM
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skodeo7
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The judges arent just snowboarders. I know there was a skier judge this time and last time there was 2 skier judges I think. I was going to be the style judge but I was filming so I couldnt.
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Jan 19 2004 6:36PM
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ElliotH
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amanda dosent know what she is talking about she is a gossiping bitch and any rumor she heres she spreads like wildfire. as for the judgeing ,style
is a huge part of the judging thats why in previous jams people who have greased the rail with no style did not make finals as for amanda if you dont like how the comp was run dont come next time and everyone will be perfecty happy and less rumors will be spread. its people like you amanda bitching about every aspect of skiing that make skiing wack

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Jan 19 2004 6:47PM
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aftermathdestroyer23
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whose amanda?
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Jan 19 2004 7:25PM
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TKMB
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Jan 19 2004 7:44PM
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OReJow
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i like the announcers calling everything a 'skislide'... as in skier version of a boardslide... i dunno, i found that kind of comical.

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Jan 19 2004 7:49PM
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aftermathdestroyer23
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me too
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Jan 19 2004 8:02PM
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me too
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Jan 19 2004 8:02PM
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aftermathdestroyer23
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me too chris is a p crook

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Jan 19 2004 8:03PM
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steezymac
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yeah, i have to say those judges suck. props to travis and jake for sliding the box. we need some real non-skier slide judges. post up a little video of the session if anyone has it so we can tell who has the most steez.


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Jan 19 2004 8:10PM
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jtski
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and then you go up the next day and that fucking 10 year old kid greases is every time.



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Jan 19 2004 8:22PM
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h3ofilms
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whatever...i think cold wars are pretty fucked up in their planning, the woman hosting them is very disorganized...if amanda thinks skiers should win skis, i dont think people need to tell her to shut the fuck up...if skiers like winning snowboards, then good for them...i just think its shitty that alot of kids get screwed when they dont know how their being judges...they think their doing the right thing, when their really not...comps so far this season are a guessing game as to what they want to see

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Jan 19 2004 9:57PM
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superpipe540
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not only did people get screwed on the judging but i wnet there and didnt even get to compete. and then got my skis stolen while i was watching the comp.
Jan 19 2004 10:01PM
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acc
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what don't i know about and how am i a gossiping bitch? what did i say that i didn't know what i was talking about. could someone please tell me? and stu shut your little mouth. you seem speak to me this way online but have never said a thing to my face.

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Jan 19 2004 10:05PM
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steezymac
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once again, all this arguing about this and that. send this to stratton or something! honestly. also work on that video (duncan has one i believe).

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Jan 19 2004 10:06PM
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h3ofilms
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weds nite ill have the video up of Chris' run and you can check it out. Like i said before, travis killed the rail and im glad he won over a snowboarder...my point was that Chris was overlooked, as well as a bunch of kids that slid the entire rail and never made finals, where some snowboarders (stratton locals) never made the entire rail and were put in the finals...ask Malczyk or Curry or Wichecki and they will tell you the same, they deserved in the final round and never made it

just to clear it up, im not taking anything away from anyone, i just see it from the perspective of the kids i talked to there, and alot of them were pissed because alot of people knew they had been screwed

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Jan 19 2004 10:18PM
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ya, 2 rail comps in 2 weeks and i've been bent over by these things man, every legit skier in these comps knows their all whack, it just depends on whos looks the coolest the day of the comp. i'm gonna just stick to the filming business, where the only judges of those are you thousands of 15 year old jibber butt monkeys that watch ski videos 10 hours of the day and bitch about shit on this site the other 14 hours, leaving no time for GOING TO THE MOUNTAIN, check out Right Side Productions and H30 films' videos next fall. peace
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Jan 19 2004 11:44PM
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TKMB
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funny how you say that to me, when at the first cold wars you were talking shit about travis and now online post pictures of him.

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Jan 20 2004 6:11AM
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acc
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i didn't talk shit about travis. i was telling someone how amazing he is on rails. they asked about him in the rest of the park and i said i don't think he jumps that much & i have no clue how he is in pipe. thats talking shit huh?

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Jan 20 2004 8:57AM
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cold wars needs to be reorganized...period
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Jan 20 2004 9:46AM
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TKMB
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that is such a blatant lie
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Jan 20 2004 11:18AM
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ElliotH
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it went more like this you said travis kills it on rails but dosent hit jumps,
thats what im talking about you not knowing how someone skis yet gossiping about it so there you have it you talking shit about somthing you dont know

travis does kill jumps and he will kill you
Jan 20 2004 11:41AM
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ElliotH
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people need to understand that this is just a rail jam, and the judging is based on style, so if someome greeses the rail and lookes like a dork than they will be overlooked for picks for the finals. someone who cleared it early on with style and then is tryin tech shit in the finals may win im not saying that chris did not have style or that his trick wasnt good because im sure it was and im sure he got somthing for it. and yes an s box is not an optimal jib to have a progresional rail jam on.
also the reason why there are not skis as prizes for the skier catagory is cause when brooke called companies like salomon, 4frnt and dynastar
they would not put up skis for the contest in fact salomom gave boards for the comp but not skis.
so soxripper you can take your unknowledgeable ripping on this comp to some of the ski companies that wouldnt put up skis for this event but would put up boards
that can be example # 2 of you not knowing what is going on and not knowing why there werent skis as prizes for skiers but still talking shit
Jan 20 2004 12:10PM
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h3ofilms
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stratton has access to such dirt cheap skis (intrawest has a few dollars) that to get a pair of sticks for the comp would be one of the easiest things around. Maybe they should try calling some other ski companies, i know of a few different places that would be happy to help out

and alot of the kids that greased the rail with style that were skiers were left out for snowboarders who never even got the entire rail, let alone do anything with style, malczyk is a good example. he got the entire thing nice and slow with great style, yet he didnt make the finals where snowboarders who didnt hold a candle to his performance did, same with curry and wichecki

i dunno where you got the idea that soxripper was ripping on travis, shes just saying the comp is so snowboarder-centric and the judging is pretty well fucked...as for who i think who the best skier was there, that doesnt matter..im not a judge, im a filmmaker and to be honest with everyone...i really dont care who wins...i get shots, not give my opinion

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Jan 20 2004 12:38PM
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ElliotH
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look it would be easy to get a pair of skis being stratton and being rich and all but thats not how it works. the youth marketing director, the person who is in charge of creating this jam has to get sponsors for this event and get prizes through sponsors for the event.the person in charge of the event cant just get all the prizes from say pipe dreams because although it is a part of stratton and stratton does own the store it runs as a seperate buisness and is not obligated to give prizes for an event. If the store wants to sponsor an evernt then maybe they would give money or prizes for the event. Just like mt snow did not povide the money or prizes for there rail jam it was sponsored by budweiser and they put up prize money for the event. its the same thing with the us open at stratton. stratton runs the comp but does not provide the prize money, it is sponsored by a company (last year it was philips) and they provide money for the event includeing prize money and money to run the event. it is the same thing with any other competition. this is not ment as a dis to you h30 but it is to let you and others alike know that it is not because of stratton that there arent skis as prizes
Jan 20 2004 1:59PM
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OReJow
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it doesn't really make sense that salomon would be willing to donate a snowboard, but not skis.

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Jan 20 2004 2:32PM
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ElliotH
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i know thats something to bring up with salomon

Jan 20 2004 3:10PM
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