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Steeze vs. Spin to win

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fourdskate
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there's a lot of bitching about all the pros just spinning to win on ns usually.  somebody's always complaining about judges choosing rotation over steeze

dumont oozed pure style with that dub front.

why the hate?
Jan 24 2009 11:22PM
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Shark.
Posts: 3158 - Karma: 270
because even though that was suuper steezy and nasty, it was not NEARLY  as technical or hard as Jon's flip.  also, Dumont needs to get a new trick because that is alll that he does.
Jan 24 2009 11:25PM
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Alex_G
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if you didnt notice the afterbang out of jon there, jon was 30x steezier.
Jan 24 2009 11:27PM
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N-John360
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Hunder should have beat Dumont. It was a popularity contest, that's all.
Jan 24 2009 11:29PM
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fourdskate
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i'm not saying dumont deserved to win, i don't even want to go there.

but the man just brought steeze into the biggest comp of the year.  why hate so much?
Jan 24 2009 11:31PM
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0123456789
Posts: 9226 - Karma: 148
personally id rather see a flat 5or 7 or even a cork 3, because its technically hard to do haha, instead of like a 12 or cork 10. i think smaller spins liek that are doper. mabye immust weird
Jan 24 2009 11:33PM
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Alex_G
Posts: 11902 - Karma: 1,018
if you want steeze watch jon's flip and pks dubcork ive never seen a double flip as smooth as his or a double cork as smooth as pk's.
Jan 24 2009 11:33PM
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KellyK
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normally, i would go for steeze, but dumont did it with such a douche bag quality it really pissed me off

honestly, I would take steezed out 5, even a 3, over a 9 or 10 any day

The fact that it was in a contest made it sooo lame.  If it was actually a judged comp there is no way in hell that dumont would have done that.  You know it, i know it, and he knows it.  Way to go.  Prick award goes to........
Jan 24 2009 11:33PM
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Pee_and_Ski
Posts: 1869 - Karma: 57

most of the people that voted thought flips were cool/harder than the double. I wouldnt call  it a popularity contest though .

The first bouble front dumont did was the second stezeyist thing ive ever seen, second only to t-wall at life

Jan 24 2009 11:34PM
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eheath
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Are you kidding me? You're the kind of shit head that ruined big air this year. A double front is not that hard, a switch double cork is.
Jan 24 2009 11:34PM
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C.Harris
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steeze is way better than spin to win. pk deserved that gold. his double was super steeze with the high mute 12 and stomped.
Jan 24 2009 11:35PM
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mmckechnie
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how about a switch lincoln or a bio 7, that would be nice to see
Jan 24 2009 11:37PM
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ski-plastic
Posts: 311 - Karma: 64
Anyone think that maybe PK just didnt cork his hard enough?? Sa-weeeeeeeet trick but it was barely a cork in the end.

Dont hate me! I still think the sw dub 12 should have won!!!!!
Jan 24 2009 11:37PM
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Z_rob
Posts: 3076 - Karma: 152
i feel exactly the same way.

just someone busting a huge floater 5 with the cleanest landing would be the best in my mind
Jan 24 2009 11:38PM
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C-Burg
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rory bushfield's switch double back a couple years ago was better than the double front
Jan 24 2009 11:38PM
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lagi23
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they are for sure gonna change the judges next year for sure. i liked it like last year. with the ppls vote, the hosts vote and the judges thats how it should of been this year but props to simon. makin the dub front easy and the suicide after the first front. sooooo sick. if thats not steez then dont know what is, jons trick was alot harder but ppl decided simon was gonna win.
Jan 24 2009 11:39PM
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Alex_G
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please...in competition you can't throw a 5 and win because everybody else can throw a huge 5. a 14 year old could throw a huge 5 if he has been skiing park for a year.
Jan 24 2009 11:40PM
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Jiblonski
Posts: 102 - Karma: 11
^^bios= one of the most underated tricks out there
Jan 24 2009 11:40PM
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skier14567
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frontflip off knole won it for me
Jan 24 2009 11:50PM
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ReedSkis~
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I wish it was PK vs. Dumont in the finals...
no disrespect to jon he was sick too
Jan 24 2009 11:52PM
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richards
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so many kids can do double fronts but hardly anyone can do switch dub corks . fuck dumont
Jan 24 2009 11:55PM
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0123456789
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word i mean personally i like the looks of smaller spins(no bigger than 7's) over 12 and shit. but in a comp theres no way (if i was ajudge) i could let a steezy 7 win over a dub cork 12.
Jan 24 2009 11:56PM
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highaltNM
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That was dope but it proved how easy fronts are......
Jan 24 2009 11:57PM
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General_Ripper
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I was neutral on the whole dumont thing until this point. Now I realize he truly is the biggest fag in the world. Everyone else in that competition had new and innovative tricks that are advancing our sport, and here comes retard to through a trick "done 40 years ago".
Jan 24 2009 11:59PM
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shabinka
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Everyone cry more please. Dumont realized it was a play-to-the-fans competition. That may have been the best double frontfilp I've seen (not switch double supermans just regular double fronts). He took it so far down the landings. Now, I personally think that PK should've won with the switch double cork 12 but hey it's a competition where people go for wow factor. I was personally more wowed by Dumont's front to superman front just because of how long he held the superman for.
Jan 25 2009 12:01AM
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General_Ripper
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^^ I think you contridicted yourself twice in that statement
Jan 25 2009 12:07AM
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.Capn.
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+1

Imo the person who throws the biggest slowest D spin should win in any comp. With steezy flatspin 5's and big laid out underflips duking it out for the bronze and silver.
Jan 25 2009 12:07AM
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shabinka
Posts: 743 - Karma: 10
No, I said that it was crowd voting and a wow factor. I meant dumont in the finals seeing as how he was against Jon not PK in the finals. I find Kangaroos over-played.
Jan 25 2009 12:09AM
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ZM231
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agreed
Jan 25 2009 12:12AM
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ski-plastic
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Fuck yes!! Bios look rascal if theyre thrown right!
Jan 30 2009 3:47PM
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skier14567
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your a d bag but your right alot
Jan 30 2009 4:12PM
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unchyll
Posts: 4554 - Karma: 96
yeah i think double fronts arent steezy at all, front flips are just one of those tricks that is just kinda goofy mess around trick its just like "Hey look i can do a front flip w00t"
compared to jons double cork that was a joke
not saying it isnt hard to do a double front but the double cork looked soooooooo much beter, dumont looked like he got shot out of a cannon or something and was performing aerial acrobatics for the circus or something
no wonder jon wants to go back to racing not to mention after that little dick remark dumont made
Jan 30 2009 4:33PM
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ski_ENDUB
Posts: 2535 - Karma: 86
double front flip will never equal steeze, even if T-Wall does it. I'd rather see steeze in a big spin, like PKs switch 12, or Sammys 12 in the slopestyle.
Jan 30 2009 4:53PM
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Aaaron.
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if i see another thread about the x games.
kittens will die.
Jan 30 2009 5:00PM
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Funki32
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id like to see some other guy do that kinda double front.
and why hate dumont so much, he didnt choice that its sms voting lol? if he really doesnt do anything else than those tricks, then let him do it ffs, the whole big air comp was a joke, the people who chose it to be sms voting are a joke, imo even this whole subject is a joke.
Jan 30 2009 5:03PM
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Wis_Skier_23
Posts: 2263 - Karma: 245
a lot of people can do double fronts but NO one can do them to that style....I wanna see a steezier double front than the one he threw....now no it wasnt as hard as PK's trick by any means never no way but, the people voted and judged it...I do not understand how everyone hates on Dumont, give him some respect for what he has all done for the sport of skiing
Jan 30 2009 5:04PM
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jAYbird08
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i understand why people arnt happy with the double front..but if we are pissed he won with then shouldnt we be complaining about the voting system not the trick dumont choose to do
Jan 30 2009 5:08PM
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blindside
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I actually agree with heath on this one
Jan 30 2009 5:16PM
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iluvBread
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i personally would take rainville's toxic 5's over any trick any day...and a super smooth cork 3
Jan 30 2009 5:21PM
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Atypical
Posts: 1339 - Karma: 45
Steeze for sho.

Simons flip was steezy, but it also wasn't as good looking as jon are hunder.

IMO it would have been color if simon did a switch front with tweaked grab.

Whatever, text to vote blows.
Jan 30 2009 5:24PM
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Cheech_Sander
Posts: 338 - Karma: 1,660
jon shoulda christian biere'd it and throw the switch double superman once he saw simon was just gonna do the gimmick again, that woula sealed!
Jan 30 2009 5:54PM
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TWoods
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the steeziest/biggest/most technical rotation should win in every big air contest, unless otherwise specified. That's all there is to it. It has to be a combination of those things.


Jan 30 2009 6:02PM
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skiP.E.I.
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Jon and PK's tricks were in the same league as Dumont's for style, and were far more technical than a double front. You can't judge something on pure style or pure technicality, it has to be balanced out.
Jan 30 2009 6:49PM
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Swervasaurus
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. dumont was gay and screwed pk outta. he needs to get some new tricks or get outta big air. seeing pk go down to a dub front really pissed me off
Jan 30 2009 10:24PM
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ski-swagga
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how about both?? i think a steezy sw 12 is better than an equally steezy sw 7. thats my opinion though.

and also did anyone notice how the x games were even supporting the "spin to win" theme in skiing and snowboarding. The commentators even said that it was basically spin to win. with that mind set the x games in gunna go down the toilet (if it hasnt already) my 2 cents.

Jan 30 2009 10:25PM
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CHARLES.BRONSON
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anyone remember mickaels 5 blunt at wsi in like 02'? carve take off, corked, perf blunt, carved landing
Jan 30 2009 10:43PM
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BEARS.
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jon should definitely have taken it.
Jan 30 2009 10:50PM
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KFRADtheLaxBro
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Spin to win can be steezy your just another dumont lover
Jan 30 2009 11:24PM
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alaskakid
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take any male skier in any discipline of X this year, and I'd bet they could do it.
Jan 31 2009 12:03AM
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alaskakid
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x2

and to the steeze argument, while i usually agree with the argument, a double front is never steezy, and dumont kept throwing that trick.
Jan 31 2009 12:05AM
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Elg
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I get that dumont only played the game, but seeing as he knew that the crowd would like a double front better than a double cork 12, he shouldn't do a double front. It would be soo much better if he actually threw a progressing trick like the other competators. I mean, he would probably have won still, but he wouldn't have gotten all the newschoolers hating on him for it...
Jan 31 2009 12:12AM
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