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Beefiest, strongest, nicest, most awesome bindings

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zylstra
Posts: 3613 - Karma: 125
yeah, what are they
Dec 29 2008 6:42PM
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.Brink.
Posts: 1622 - Karma: 188
look p18
solly s916
Dec 29 2008 6:49PM
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DirtyMick
Posts: 1496 - Karma: 21
Salomon bindings blow. I've broken 2 pair and my brother broke his 916s like a week into haveing them.
Dec 29 2008 7:05PM
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Balto
Posts: 25985 - Karma: 4,398
BS he broke his s916s a week after getting them unless they were already mad old
Dec 29 2008 7:50PM
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Big_Spence
Posts: 16177 - Karma: 4,352
unless he threw them out of an airplane into chemical waste, they didnt break.
and if they did break like how i mentioned about, salomon would probably still warranty them.
Dec 29 2008 7:53PM
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.Brink.
Posts: 1622 - Karma: 188
yeah its pretty difficult to break one of the best all metal bindings in less than a week. Im calling BS too, maybe they were 914's or 912's?
Dec 29 2008 7:54PM
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reverendwrong
Posts: 3145 - Karma: 142
ummm sollys blow, half my friends have broke them, one even ripped the titanium strip in half on his.

Tyrolia bindings are the best bindings you can buy right now, now if only they could come up with miracle brakes that wont break.
Dec 29 2008 7:58PM
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DirtyMick
Posts: 1496 - Karma: 21
Nope. They were 916. This was a long time ago, so maybe they're better built now, but I'm serious, those things fell the fuck apart on him. Not to mention my two pairs of 914s sucked mad balls and broke all the time.
Dec 29 2008 8:04PM
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GoonThug
Posts: 324 - Karma: 16
you sure?

id go ahead and say look px 18 and 4frnt deadbolts look promising
Dec 29 2008 8:56PM
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jsaya_SagStraps
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gonna have to say p18 and ^4frnt deadbolts r made by tyrolia, havent tryed those, but i used to have tyrolias and they were pretty nice
Dec 29 2008 9:04PM
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gnarrr
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p18
Dec 29 2008 9:41PM
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Balto
Posts: 25985 - Karma: 4,398
also vist 618s are dope
Dec 29 2008 9:44PM
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huge-go
Posts: 1451 - Karma: 33
I've heard of too many people busting toe wings off vist bindings. I've heard of 3 people who've busted them off 816's, and a pair of 1018's toe wings snapping off. Not sure if they differ in construction between the different DIN's, but they are from the "Beefiest, strongest, nicest, most awesome bindings"
Dec 29 2008 9:49PM
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Dustin.
Posts: 13839 - Karma: 7,704
Those old vist ones weren't for sure, but the new ones are tanks.  Hjorlefson rides them and he is the pickiest person ever since he is worried about bindings failing where he goes to ski.  I would say the beefiest are the FKS 185  or the NEW Deadbolts.  I broke the titanium track in half on my Solly's just yesterday, but they had a good run so it's okay.
Dec 29 2008 9:53PM
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MEGAZORD
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Any of the sollys with tabbed forward pressure are garbage.  The wormscrew is where its at. 
Dec 29 2008 10:14PM
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Literature
Posts: 13673 - Karma: 3,086
916s.
Dec 29 2008 10:27PM
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huge-go
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He rode 916's before. Now that 4frnt has switched to the tyrolia mold, Eric has switched to the deadbolts, but he never rode the vist ones.
Dec 29 2008 10:37PM
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rudager
Posts: 11332 - Karma: 4,597
Soloman STH16
Dec 30 2008 1:17AM
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huge-go
Posts: 1451 - Karma: 33
Sick bindings, but not on the same level as the original 916's.
Dec 30 2008 1:21AM
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alaskakid
Posts: 5540 - Karma: 430
hahaha deadbolts = tyrolia
I've heard bad things about solomon bindings, even 916s, but FKS 185s have alot less negative feedback on them so I'd say them.
Dec 30 2008 2:10AM
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huge-go
Posts: 1451 - Karma: 33
What bad things have you heard? All I've heard is that the toe wing screws back out a bit over time, so every so often you just have to tighten them again. Pretty small sacrifice I'd say for a bomber binding. Apparently the older toe wing screws were ALOT better, because they had an individual screw for each wing that had to be adjusted separately, so they would back out more slowly than todays with the simultaneous wing adjustment.
Dec 30 2008 2:22AM
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GoonThug
Posts: 324 - Karma: 16
wulp now i just look like an idiot. dang it.
Dec 30 2008 3:05AM
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SFBv420.0
Posts: 2539 - Karma: 3,124

With dins to 12 not the strongest or beefiest, but getting my vote for most awesome

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Dec 30 2008 8:43AM
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blindside
Posts: 5619 - Karma: 1,199
holy shit those must weigh nothing
Dec 30 2008 10:19AM
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.Brink.
Posts: 1622 - Karma: 188
sorry, noob question, but are those tele bindings? Or just a really weird alpine touring binding?
Dec 30 2008 12:39PM
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ShreddingthaGnar
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Dynafit
Dec 30 2008 2:06PM
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Chucktheweasel
Posts: 551 - Karma: 126
I've never had a problem with my Tyrolia's. My Look P12's are heavy and pieces of shit, IMO. They don't click in all the way and I have to physically pull up the back of it.
Dec 30 2008 2:41PM
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jason...
Posts: 9006 - Karma: 780
I agree with everyone else in the thread, solly's fucking blow. They never release properly. I have look p12 pivots, they work pretty good, not the sturdiest but they release smoothly atleast.
Dec 30 2008 4:16PM
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Ben.
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from what ive heard that happens with alot of look toe pieces. something about the travel of the heel? ive found just stomping real hard works fine
Dec 30 2008 4:51PM
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huge-go
Posts: 1451 - Karma: 33
It happens because the heel on the axial/pivot bindings doesn't have a ton of forward pressure. They develop slop quickly. I don't think it happens with p15/18's or the fks series though. Rossi/look solved that with the axial²/px. But now every ones's crying about pre-releases with them.
Dec 30 2008 5:35PM
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Ben.
Posts: 21463 - Karma: 683
wow i meant heel pieces not toe pieces but ive def had the smae problem with pxs, where it doesnt pop up all the way on its own. i went to the shop assuming it was forward pressure, but he looked at it and said it was all good, it just happens
Dec 30 2008 5:45PM
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huge-go
Posts: 1451 - Karma: 33
That's weird, maybe you don't knock al the snow off your boots or something. I haven't seen that happen with px's. I heard once that that was one of the reasons look made it a dildo, so that it was easy to grab and pull up. Might have been full of shit though.
Dec 30 2008 7:53PM
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doGelyst
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well pivot fks (tanks) are really hard to find these days.
I have the PX version of FKS 155s, and not only did I break both the AFDs out of them, but just ripped the heel piece out of the track last week.....so not really a big rossi/look fan anymore.
Dec 30 2008 9:38PM
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no_steeze
Posts: 23992 - Karma: 4,270
fks
sth 16
dynafit
Dec 30 2008 9:38PM
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charmander
Posts: 10636 - Karma: 372
not markers
Dec 30 2008 9:48PM
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cobra_commander
Posts: 16909 - Karma: 4,682
916s and 920's are the strongest  (s900's ect as well) they are also really good bindings
P18s are not quite as strong but still all metal and overall my favorite binding out there unfortunatly they are no longer made.
PX 18s are also supper strong but not as good a binding, (still a great binding just heavy)
the all metal Head/Fischer/Tyrolia bindings 20 din ones and this year's 17 din ones.  are also pretty strong
markers 20+ din bindings are good too. I would be stoked on some 30 din ones, but overall not as smooth a release.
Thats for race stock bindings
for non race bindings
STH 16s are great bindings just not as strong as 916s
This years head/fischer/tyrolia 15 din bindings are half decent, the older ones suck because they have that dumb side release heal that causes more prereleases then the marker biometric toe.
Some people like the Jester, I don't I want something a little stronger personally. Other markers are plain dumb.
Speaking of dumb lets talk about Vist. Stay away. (also rebranded as Nordica and former 4frnt)

And for the guy who said he broke some 916's I suggest you set them right next time.
Dec 30 2008 10:35PM
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huge-go
Posts: 1451 - Karma: 33
True that.
Something must have been adjusted wrong or they were faulty. Seth trusts them, and it took a MASSIVE drop off like a 150 foot cliff to the feet to break the toe, as witnessed here, at approximately 3:11 in:

Eric Hjorleifson also trusted them, but he is now on deadbolt 15/18's(essentially tyrolia)
Dec 30 2008 10:49PM
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Chucktheweasel
Posts: 551 - Karma: 126
Yeah, stomping on it real hard works too.

They are on my shit skis so whatever, my Tyrolia's never give me shit. Ha.
Dec 30 2008 11:30PM
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Fish_Sandwich.
Posts: 9108 - Karma: 16
FKS 185's
P18's

Jesters would hold up well too but probably not so much in the park.  I have no complaints about them though.
Dec 31 2008 12:03AM
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hollygrove
Posts: 7845 - Karma: 93
mojo 20
Dec 31 2008 12:22AM
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skibikeclambake
Posts: 2346 - Karma: 27
fairly sure seth uses s920's and eric h uses deadbolt 18s now
Dec 31 2008 12:40AM
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huge-go
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Nope, Seth uses 916's. And I said that Eric USED TO ski the 916's, but now he's on the deadbolts. And I'm not 100% certain that Seth skis 916's, only about 90% certain because Seth skis on a DIN of 14. In case you're wondering how I know that, at freshtival, they had this little trivia game, and Seth's DIN was one of the questions, and 14 was the answer. So if Seth did ski 920's, he would be on the lowest DIN, which is in general not recommended. Besides, I'm also fairly certain the only difference between 916's and 920's is the spring.
Dec 31 2008 1:15AM
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Dustin.
Posts: 13839 - Karma: 7,704
Ya exactly, that's why I take his endorsement pretty seriously.
Dec 31 2008 1:53PM
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tightgrip
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ive used a couple different head mojo 15 models.  seem burly as hell to me
Jan 1 2009 5:43PM
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Commonwealth
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threads
Jan 1 2009 6:26PM
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Matty_C
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i've never had a bad moment on my mojos, both 15s and 20s. that is to say every time they've released it's been because of a big fall and not releasing would end my knees. never once did they release when i didn't need them to.

now, salomon z12s on the other hand were shit- literally last week i landed a 3 a little bit back seat- not a bail but a bit washed out, i certainly didn't think i was gonna go down. to my irritation my ski pooped off and i ate shit only to find that when i picked up my ski the heelpiece had fucking shattered. at first i thought it had ripped out with the screws but i looked closer and saw that the screws were in place and the binding had literally ripped through the screwhead and shattered. shocking build quality, and as i say, hardly any impact at all...

overall i would say that most brands have decent high-din bindings:
916s and up, p15s, fks etc, tyrolia >15s, duke/jester. these are all fairly tried and tested. don't like vist much. if you don't need a high din, i think p10, p12, fks120 are far better than any other 12 din. if you can't get those then px/axial are the next best thing. all other 12 din bindings i've found to be plastic and not fantastic.
Jan 1 2009 8:50PM
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chazz.
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FKS 120
Jan 1 2009 9:07PM
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fouldsys
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ive had s912s, marker 12.0 frees or w/e there called, and fks 155s. ive been skiing on fks for like 3 years now and not a single problem. i own 6 pairs.
Jan 2 2009 12:14AM
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brenker
Posts: 3188 - Karma: 71
fischer x17

really nice click in, put em on my addicts, good combo
Jan 2 2009 12:17AM
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