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skibum311
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i donno if there's anyway to cure it entirely, but i'd sure like to know how to prevent it as much as possible and how to heal it faster. any tips would be awesome
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Nov 16 2003 10:32PM
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TwoPlanker-->
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don't land with your weight back and smack your shins into your boots.
Nov 16 2003 10:39PM
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dirty_dreb
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buy 1080 boots ahh the love, the love
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Nov 16 2003 10:49PM
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feezy
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land fakie, and in the flats.


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Nov 16 2003 10:50PM
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albatross.
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i was gonna say 1080 boots. so yeah. 1080 boots.
Nov 16 2003 10:51PM
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skibum311
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yeah, i got salomon evolutions and i think they might be part of the problem, im probably gonna look into some other boots so thanks for the 1080 suggestion
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Nov 16 2003 10:58PM
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Jibtech
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make sure your boots are the RIGHT SIZE... they are probably to big... and get a foot bed from SuperFeet. Not SureFoot, SureFoot sucks... they don't contain the foot in a sub-talor-neutral position, they allow for excessive pronation, and don't keep the foot in the heel pocket like SuperFeet.

to make sure your boots are the right size, take out the liner, and put your foot inside the shell. Slide your toes up to the very front of the boot, cross your index and middle fingers and stick them down between your heel and the back of the shell. it should be a snug fit, if you can fit more than a finger and a half back there, your boots are too big.

Right Size boot+Superfoot trim to fit orthodic= happy feet when skiing. (landing backseat doesn't help either)

Superfeet Trim-To-Fit orthodic.

There is also a custom cork orthodic but it costs considerably more, and if you are still growing... a waste of money if your foot is gonna be bigger in 6 months.

But if you want the best fit, the custom cork is the way to go, make sure who ever makes it knows what the hell they are doing... because its easy to fuck it up if they don't. Ask them to explain Subtalor neutral position, pronation and supernation, if they look at you like you are speaking zulu, go somewhere else.


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Nov 16 2003 11:06PM
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Justo8484
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good call with the footbeds. it sucks if your still growing cause they are expensive. i have lange banshee 9's with Conformable custom footbeds and lange narrowing pads on the tongues. more or less no shin bang ever. lange now makes a jib boot, but the comp 100's should do well if you have a norrower foot. the conformable footbeds are really nice because, first of all, its a custom mold of your foot in the unweighted position, how your foot is meant to be before it collapses in or out, depending on your foot. also, if you are really flat footed, you can full post it with foam up through the arch of your foot instead of just the heel posting. i am not really sure how superfeet footbeds work, they may be very similar
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Nov 16 2003 11:29PM
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1080 or transfer boots but I have niether I almost never get it bu then again my boots fit my
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Nov 17 2003 12:18AM
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strode
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nut lash sucks too





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Nov 17 2003 2:00AM
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thebill
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you guys ever try the rossi soft? I read somewhere moles tweaked it out with an extra rivet and powerstrap.
Nov 17 2003 2:11AM
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strode
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^it's funny that they're listed as skiboard boots on getboards





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Nov 17 2003 2:14AM
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Triple_Strum
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shin bang sucks... the advice above is awesome for preventing it, thanks jibtech (I thank you for every one else :) As for after you get it... last year I went out to Copper for a week and got the worst shin bang by day 3. After trying numerous things, what worked awesome was foam camping mat from walmart. It cost like $10 for a big roll of it. If you cut in and put it in places around where your shin hurts it is great. It feels really bulky at first, but it compresses and takes a lot of the shock of the pressure and landings. hope it helps

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Nov 17 2003 2:47AM
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Crystal-needs-a-park
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get a stiffener put in the top of your boot to spread pressure, or get some garage weather sealing tape at the hardware store and crap a couple strips of that down the sides of the toungue
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Nov 17 2003 2:50AM
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hanklambo
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yah dude... landing switch actually helps.. and um... tranny everything perfect... and ice the shins every time u go skiing
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Nov 17 2003 6:51AM
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vtrider
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Get instaprint footbeds, so nice!
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Nov 17 2003 8:48AM
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miss_hevern87
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i dont think it's preventable. i think it's completely inevitable.


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Nov 17 2003 12:13PM
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winterparksuks
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it def is inevitible^
pro models teneighty boots dont really do anything for me
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Nov 17 2003 12:17PM
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Mattman
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argh.! I have shinban right now (sp)I have not gne skiing yet either, SHIT!
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Nov 17 2003 12:34PM
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strode
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softer boots help though for sure - i had lange gx9's two seasons ago because i got them for $5 and the first kicker i hit gave me shin bang for 3 weeks.....couldn't even touch my shins without extreme pain and i hadn't really even landed wrong. then i wised up and got some salomon xwave 6's (close to the flex of the 1080 boots) and i only get minor shin bang if i land too far backseat





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Nov 17 2003 12:58PM
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joe_cool_ski
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i had the 1080 pro last year and my shines were fucked i got the 120 comp FR from lange this year and i have been out two days and they are fucking awesome if you are a 26.5 let me know because i have a pair of 120 comps for sale that is what i think that you should do

Nov 17 2003 1:08PM
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1260ProRider
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A little hint i learned from running cross country. When you get shin splints/shin bang, take a piece of wood that is about 1-2 inches high. Put it on the ground. Stand on it with the front part of your foot. Then lower yourself with your legs straight, and go back up. Do it 20 at a time, 2X a day. It helps so much. Hope this helps...
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Nov 17 2003 1:59PM
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123ski
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PAT, I GOT A LITTLE SHIN BANG LAST YEAR, AND I WENT TO THE BOOT SHOP AT SNOWBIRD, FIRST I FOUND OUT MY BOOTS WERE TOO BIG, SECOND, I BOUGHT RAICHELLE FLEXON BOOTS, THEY DONT HAVE A BREAK POINT, SO EVEN IF YOU DO GET THRUSTED FORWARD, THERE IS NO WAY TO GET SHIN SPLINT.
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Nov 17 2003 2:17PM
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Norred
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do you mean calf raises?



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Nov 17 2003 2:33PM
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cobalt
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why are some of the superfeet footbeds like a hundred dollars. that seems crazy i think mine is like 30, even that is a lot
Nov 17 2003 2:35PM
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offtrail
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levin is right on. footbeds are clutch. also I have the zip-fit cork linning and they are so sick. don't get em though if you are growing. and I have 1080 boots with the added rivet for stiffness, but boots alone won't prevent shinbang. the key is to stay forward and keep pressure on the front of your boots. this will make yiou a better skier since you won't be backseat all the time.





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Nov 17 2003 2:43PM
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hexum
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lol, i got the worst shitbang up at COC this summer, my sock on my right leg fell down sometime during the 2nd day and all i was doing was hiking, so i got these two huge blisters right in the middle of my shin, not alot of fun, but it didnt really matte cuz my right shin is numb from knee surgery... so the moral of the story is have the nerves to your shin cut, then you dont fell the pain


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Nov 17 2003 4:30PM
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vtrider
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too soft of a boot can hurt you to, you need to get a boot thats apropreite for your weight and skier ability.
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Nov 17 2003 4:37PM
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crazy4running04
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1260prorider has some good advice. I run cross country also and my coach makes the team do toe taps everyday to strengthen the shin muscle. It helps!!! Toe taps are done by standing with your feet together but toes spread apart to about a 45 degree angle and then keep your weight even on both legs and start with one foot and lift up your toe and then back down(the motion of tapping your toe). Do the tapping at a fairly fast pace for about one minute or more until you start to feel the burn in your shins, then you know its working the muscle. You can adjust the height of your tapping for a better work out. This is a very easy simple work out for your shins. All you have to do is stand up and tap one toe for a minute and then switch and tap the other toe for a minute, maybe do this twice a day. I know it may sound silly but try it and if you keep at it and strengthen your shins then shinbang might not be a 3 week soreness anymore that keeps you from doing what you love. HEY! It works for me.
Nov 17 2003 4:52PM
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skibum311
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thanks all
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Nov 17 2003 9:26PM
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i just got the new 1080 boots(super lime green) with a super feet foot bed and i have skied 7 of the last 9 days with absolutely no shin bang its great, my old boots it was shin bang after 20 mins of skiing but now there is none!!!!!
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Nov 17 2003 10:40PM
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KAF
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Jibtech just made his most informative, helpful post ever on here. Listen to everything that he said. You can get the trim to fits for like 25-30 bucks, full cork can run you like 75-100 depending where you get them done at.
Nov 17 2003 10:50PM
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Nov 17 2003 10:51PM
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vtrider
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The one thing that sux about surefoot (correct me if im wrong) is that they mold the footbed to your foot when your standing, thus your foot is pronating, or in a longer position then in a sitting position. This means that you need a boot that is longer, where as a footbed that constructed when you are sitting will be most supportive and let you get in a smaller boot.
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Salomon Xscream boots Size 29-29.5 75 obo.

-TroubleMakers, With Look P12 Jibs, Either 175's or 182's, which ever I feel i dont need. make me an offer.

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Nov 17 2003 11:38PM
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bailer
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Man you dont know nothing about shin bang. You think you have had it bad?? Check out the link. Now that is bad shin bang.. trust me I know.

http://www.biglines.com/photos_large.php?picid=15362
Nov 18 2003 12:11AM
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Barmski
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Get some raichle/kneissl flexons or a booster strap. I heard that helps too.


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Nov 18 2003 3:49AM
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Crystal-needs-a-park
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oh yes, and if you take a good footbed to surefoot, they will fuck it up, they killed mine and i couldnt afford to get a new one.
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Nov 18 2003 4:16AM
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e-scratch you think that is bad check this!



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Nov 18 2003 4:36AM
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that was jan. 17, 2002





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Nov 18 2003 4:37AM
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oh and that is looking straight on.





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Nov 18 2003 4:38AM
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friedcheese
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is your shin like broken in half
Nov 18 2003 2:30PM
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unrigged
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holy shit that sucks, ya well, i dunno about soft ones, hopefully they dont give me shin bang we will soon find out.





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Nov 18 2003 2:55PM
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salomonskier42
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yeah that hurts but i did it once at okemo and yeah
Nov 18 2003 3:07PM
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Jernt
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There is a muscle on your shin that can be strengthened. It's hard to do, but the exercise you can do are backward sprints or a toe raise. The toe raise you can do pretty much anywhere. If you are in school you can rest your heel on the desk ahead of you and rasie your toe towards you. If you can strengthen it, it will definately help. other than that remember to continue to ice it and ice it alot.
Nov 18 2003 3:48PM
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bailer
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Holy shit off trail!! Thats brutal!!! both bones? That must have sucked ass. Was it from over shotting the landing?
Nov 18 2003 7:05PM
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offtrail
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no i came out of a chute straight line maching and cartwheeled in way graby snow. the doc said i was doing about 50mph





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Nov 18 2003 9:34PM
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massivemassing
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your all pussy's. I own the stiffest boot on the market, and ive never had shin bang. And ya dont buy your boots too big or thats what you will get.
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Nov 18 2003 9:42PM
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Crystal-needs-a-park
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world cup boots have like 180 flex or something... i think you have less
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i had a pet rat that had one...it peed blood and then died - alpentalik
Nov 18 2003 11:37PM
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m1garand
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dude the line transfer boot is seriously worth looking into.


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Nov 19 2003 5:32PM
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crazy4running04
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I race and i have one of the if not the stiffest boot you can buy and if i land with my weight too far back i get shin bang bad! I think im going to get a softer boot this year.

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