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Will the new rail tricks get respect in comps this year?

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Keyjibbs
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After seeing some crazy nollies by hornbeck and the stuff that Will Wesson and Andy Parry do if these guys were to do them in comps would they receive the scores they deserve? I don't think people really know how hard it is to pop nollies like hornbeck let alone nollie switch ups. I think the judges won't know what to think and score them lower then they should.
Nov 10 2008 11:17PM
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BKlein
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Its not like thier int he olympics
if their in a freeski comp the judges are gonna be knowledgeable and aware of the difficulties of tricks
Nov 10 2008 11:21PM
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paone
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^^^hes got a point the people judging no the sport there not idiots
Nov 10 2008 11:22PM
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Klick_2_klaim
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As long as it looks bad ass, for sure the points will count.
Nov 10 2008 11:24PM
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Ifeinforsnow
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decent thought, andy parry was killing it last year at rails to riches and the anouncer had no idea what to call em, im not sure how the judges felt
Nov 10 2008 11:25PM
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PhilboydStudge
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at some comps yes, at some they're oblivious
Nov 10 2008 11:29PM
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Peter.
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Nov 10 2008 11:34PM
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punkrock32
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If its a rail jam-for sure.  If its a slopestyle comp-judges could pretty much careless about the rail sections in most slopestyles.
Nov 11 2008 2:48AM
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skituner
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this needs to change. rails are a huge part of our sport and need to have more weight in slopestyle comp whether the super-pros like it or not.
Nov 11 2008 2:51AM
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gh0s7_r1d3r
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judges notice these new slides...at least last year when I threw some new slides in the big white rail jam in February they did cause I managed to take second  
Nov 11 2008 6:50AM
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Cuckoo
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WORD
Nov 11 2008 7:44AM
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Malcolm
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reminds me of that espn recap of the x games pipe. the announcer didnt know shit. he was calling stuff 560's and calling every grab with a cross an iron cross. lol i wish they hadnt taken it off their site
Nov 11 2008 7:46AM
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swanton
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They will get respect once everyone starts doing them. Thanks to travelling circus which is going to keep popping up, kids are gonna be trying these new grinds. Then other people will see you do them and they'll try it too. I think this is the year all of those rail tricks will get accepted.
Nov 11 2008 9:43AM
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urbanjib
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i think at the core rail jams, with judges who ski this will be recognized
Nov 11 2008 10:03AM
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Smuffy
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i dont know about you, but little to none of the jams around where i live are judged by skiers.
Nov 11 2008 10:28AM
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SnowRidgeParks
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hahaha that announcer is always terrible for the skiers... I'll never forget his "skier slides" comments
Nov 11 2008 1:03PM
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Crack.
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excuse my language, what's a nollie?
Nov 11 2008 2:43PM
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Steazel
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Instead of popping of the backs off your skis you pop off the front
Nov 11 2008 3:06PM
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-BRENT-
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lol this is so random
Nov 11 2008 3:13PM
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punkrock32
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I completely agree.  Just right now judges really don't care about the rail sections.  Sure, if they were deciding between two competitors with the same jump lines, it would come down to rails, but other than that it really doesnt matter if you 270 on, 270 out on a down rail, or just go regular on, 270 out.  Jumps are all that seem to matter right now in judges minds.
Nov 11 2008 3:20PM
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McSlay
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A knowledgeable judge that skis will most likely respect it, but as we all know most of the time this is not the case, I think snowboard Judges will give huge respect to presses because they are such a big part of their sport and almost no skiers before this year have really done them.  So yes i believe they will get respect because they are new and different
Nov 11 2008 4:06PM
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BASS_PRO_SHOP
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judges like pretzels.
Nov 11 2008 4:14PM
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bob_dole
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your kidding right?
Nov 11 2008 4:20PM
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McSlay
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No it's been my expeirence that snowboarders give me more props for trying presses then for tech rail tricks, but i do see where you're coming from where they would think that we wouldn't do them as well so i retract the statement and i would say it really depends on the judge
Nov 11 2008 4:27PM
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Greenish
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i think he was referring to the "no skiers have ever done them"

and last year US Open they said rails and jumps were 50-50 which actually surprised me but i'm not sure if they judging reflected that completely

I do know that JF Houle was the only one in finals spinning only left so I have no idea how he won. sorry for the mini rant there
Nov 11 2008 4:34PM
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McSlay
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Yeah that's what i meant thank you greenish, like they value the difference from all the other skiers more
Nov 11 2008 4:39PM
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404404
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The 270 on 360 switch up, 450s on and other big spins will allways win comps.
Nov 11 2008 4:54PM
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kbrando
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honestly i think its sad if guys like will and andy especailly show up to contests and dont get rewarded for the tricks they do. they are some of the most innovative skiers around and now it seems like all people care about is pretzels. dont get me wrong pretzels are still great tricks but you need to atleast respect what they are doing, and if you dont think its hard try a hippie killer
Nov 11 2008 4:57PM
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bob_dole
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bottom line...skiers have been doing presses for longer than just this past season....
Nov 11 2008 11:13PM
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PhilboydStudge
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ya haha x games people can be bad, except when some pros help commentate it
Nov 11 2008 11:16PM
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Greenish
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thats what i meant to be getting at aswell. i'm just partially retarded but i'm sure you already know that
Nov 11 2008 11:21PM
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cal*
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its annoying how the big pros bitch about rails being gay and not meaning n e thing
Nov 12 2008 12:55AM
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fsscott
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yea i've definetly noticed shit like this
i was at a comp and two guys got second and third for doing a front flip off of the side of the rail jumpp....

i mean that is bad ass but its a RAIL jam, at least tap that shit!
Nov 12 2008 1:16AM
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gh0s7_r1d3r
Posts: 160 - Karma: 19
^^

Badass but that sucks...save the flips for the slope style or that up rail with enough pop off
Nov 12 2008 1:05PM
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Smuffy
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that seems to be how it is. a lot of people are still in the spin to win mindset. pretzels are quite popular, but ive found that theyre under appreciated too.
Nov 12 2008 3:21PM
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chickenwang
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i didnt read the thread but this is false.

example- andy parry at rails to riches last year

Nov 12 2008 3:27PM
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