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Indoor Ski Resort Business Plan

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DJCrazyA
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In an effort to compose a business plan for an indoor ski resort, I turn to your guys and girls. 
Where would you like to see an indoor ski resort in the United States (Besides the one in New Jersey proposed to open next spring)? 

What price would you expect to pay for a lift ticket? 

Would you like to see more terrain park features or more other interesting features, moguls, etc...? 

If a hotel was attached, would you make a weekend trip out of it? 

Also add anyhting else you would like to see, thanks all.



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Nov 6 2008 12:07PM
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grown-ninja
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tickets-45 the most

no need for a hotel unless its massive like the one they were planing on building in dubi

and i have a business plan i did for a ski manufacturing comp last semester it sup for sale hahah if you want it just throwin that out there

Nov 6 2008 12:17PM
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SteezeNutz
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As far as an indoor resort goes in think it would be really cool to mainly focus on park features. Obviously, there will be limitations on space, so maybe just a bunch of rails and a couple jumps would be sick. Lift tickets under 50 bucks would be sweet too. And as far as location... I have absolutely no idea.
Nov 6 2008 12:20PM
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Sir_SkrillALot
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Geographically Im guessing the most likely successful place would be south california.
Nov 6 2008 12:21PM
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WoodyE
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music sound system thing throught. or like black lights and strobes n shit on like one night a week or something. kinda like galactic bowling except skiing. that would be sick. def more park shit or like a qp. id pay like 40-60 for a whole day./evening but with the hotel n shit would be sick. do it in vegas fo sho.
Nov 6 2008 12:22PM
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Mr.O
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Id tend to agree, but I am selfish and would love to have one in PA close to Pittsburgh so its not too far away.
Nov 6 2008 12:25PM
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T-Holt
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Definitely mainly park features, I think moguls would just not be very good seeing that there would probably be a fair amount of gapers that would tear the moguls up.  I would pay no more than $40 in the winter (if there's snow nearby, if I lived in a place with no snow in the winter I would pay more) And in the summer I would prob pay no more than $55.  Maybe have a season pass for the summer and have tickets be more expensive so you get a good deal by buying a season pass.  Sound system would be a must.  I wouldn't imagine the acoustics to very good in an indoor ski hill, so maybe work on that.  A hotel would be sick or not depending on the location.  Vegas would be a pretty sweet place to have it, and there a hotel would be sick.  If it's in a smaller place, then maybe just an inn or something because you don't know how many people will go to it.

To elaborate on features, I'm assuming that there can't be anything very big because it's inside so I would say mainly rails / boxes and a few jumps varying from medium to small size.  This would also cut down on the snow you would need to have because jumps take a lot of snow.
Nov 6 2008 12:44PM
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Dustin.
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That's a great idea for a location.

As far as prices go, I would never pay more than $30 to ski 5 runs, unless it was open 24 hours and I could go at 3 am or something.

Nov 6 2008 12:49PM
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SteezeNutz
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hahahaha. i would love galactic skiing. talk about a hoot!
Nov 6 2008 12:52PM
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Caveman.
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Put one in Las Vegas Nevada and make it steep enough to have a mogul line. Build at least one or 2 jumps and have a bunch of jibs. Put an air bag in if you have chance. Put it in a casino and have the casino subsidize most of the costs so the lift tickets are incredibly cheap.
Nov 6 2008 12:53PM
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WoodyE
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dude it would be soooo sick
Nov 6 2008 1:47PM
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Wibby
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Vegas
Nov 6 2008 1:53PM
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DJCrazyA
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As far as location, we are thinking Midwest.  Maybe around the 'burbs of Chicago, SoCal and Vegas, the land prices are way too expensive.

I am a DJ, so dont think I skipped out on the sound system, that will be there for sure which would help with a student night of student passes.

Keep the ideas rolling folks, I like it
Nov 6 2008 2:29PM
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Drail
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so cal would probably be the best location. but at the same time, if you put it somwhere typicaly not ski related it could do better. one of the big texas cities could be a good location for it. but if you're going for tourists more than anything else then as the guy above me said - vegas. how could you go wrong building an indoor ski hill in that town? shit, i'm suprised they haven't done it already.

and i'm not sure if moguls will work indoors, would they? you'd need to tear em down and rebuild so often or they'd just turn into blue ice... actually, to be fully honest, i don't get how indoor ski hills work, so i don't know if moguls would work or not. Really though, do you keep adding fresh snow on top of the older snow? if so, how do you melt the bottom layer of snow so the snowpack doesn't keep going up till you're at the roof? crazy science.
Nov 6 2008 2:41PM
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ski_ENDUB
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Definitely Vegas, So Cal wouldn't work very well because there would be much demand for it, Vegas would be the place for sure because it's such a vacation destination city that an indoor ski area actually makes sense, I'm almost surprised there isn't one already with a swiss alp themed casino built around it.
Nov 6 2008 2:50PM
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Peach.
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denver? naw vegas. vegas or denver. as for features focus on jubs then jumps. if you have the snow then throw in some jumps
Nov 6 2008 3:17PM
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Detective
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Vegas is the only legitimate place for this. you could easily charge between 65-100+ there if you compare the recreation to many of the other shows, golfing, car racing, eating etc... Additional revenues could be generated with nightly "exhibition shows of halfpipe and "big air" to thrill the vegas crowds charging admission and selling booze/food etc...

Make it a super sick park, pay some of the best freeskiers in the world to do your shows (pay them really well) and provide them with high end suites to stay at whichever hotel you attach this too and I'd bet this model works out. Attached to New york new york and the espn bar sounds like a good spot, but the maloof legacy that is the palms could be a good option considering maloof's orientation to sports in general.

Nov 6 2008 5:09PM
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Drew.C
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for location deffinatley not chicago, do it where there are big populations surrounding it. For souther california the problem would be there are very few skiers in souther california. The best place would be Baltimor or Philly because it is surrounded by New York city, washington dc, new jersey, virgina, and all the skiers from the appalachian mountains( there small i know). this is probably the best place for buisness location due to the population surrounding it.
Nov 6 2008 5:25PM
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Drew.C
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the only bad part about vegas would be cost of land. it would cost millions of dollars for just the land, thats another reason for the baltimore area, land would be much cheaper than cali and vegas
Nov 6 2008 5:33PM
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Drail
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nah, build a new hotel that's all winter themed, have chairlifts and shit instead of elevators (not everywhere in the hotel, but like up to the buffet's and bars from the casino floor and shit... vegas is crazy, they'd be up for it. then you could have the indoor ski hill, ice rink, hell, even get a fake pond and have some ice fishing? no, i don't think the ice fishing was a good idea, scrap that one.
Nov 6 2008 7:48PM
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Hank
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just a ton of rails would be cool. but i dont know maybe put it somewhere like idaho? haha

Nov 6 2008 7:55PM
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jasontheredhead
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i would say tahoe but it would be expensive as shit, also get hella solar panels to supply energy for it in stead of oil

another idea i had but im not sure if it would work is that keep the ski place open during summer cause not many people will want to go if they could go to a actual ski place, but then change it to a downhill mountian bike place in winter so people could come, not sure if it could work though

Nov 6 2008 7:57PM
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Drew.C
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that mountain bike idea is genious, have winter sport during summer and summer sport during winter hahah. not sure how u would get dirt though
Nov 6 2008 8:12PM
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jasontheredhead
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ooooooooo another idea

have there be dirt under the snow to make the jumps and jibs and stuff then use that for the mountian bike track or somthin

idk wat i am talking about...

Nov 6 2008 8:17PM
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