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The reason i like Barack Obama

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Ben.
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I know that JD hates when people paste articles, but this kind of sums up one of the things i like most about the guy.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1853025-1,00.html
Oct 23 2008 10:41PM
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skiminnesota
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? huh? this doesn't make sense.
Oct 29 2008 10:16PM
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Ben.
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huh? please do elaborate.
Oct 29 2008 10:21PM
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Ben.
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and 2 wrongs make a right?
Oct 29 2008 10:22PM
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Manbearpig..
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you say the lower class are trapped in poverty which is total bullshit
Oct 29 2008 10:23PM
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Manbearpig..
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immigrants from other countries come here with NOTHING for the precise reason that america has incredible opportunities to make money even if you have none to start with.  you think all the mexicans who come here arrive with a backpack full of fucking cash?
Oct 29 2008 10:25PM
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Ben.
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so i need to grow up because i have a different opinion then you? an opinion that a LOT of other people believe? ah, makes perfect sense.
Oct 29 2008 10:25PM
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Ben.
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and do you see the mexicans in our society that come over here exactly excelling in society? no, they work below minimum wage with absurd hours, and no benefits. but alas, ive said this a hundred times, im not gonna change your mind any more than your gonna change mine.
Oct 29 2008 10:27PM
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Manbearpig..
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then your fucking stupid because mexicans can make serious bank cause their not lazy. They work much harder than the average person does to earn 30,000 a year but 30,000 a year is not poverty
Oct 29 2008 10:30PM
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Ben.
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30 grand a year is certainly not excelling. but whatever.
Oct 29 2008 10:31PM
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BASS_PRO_SHOP
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no its just that your opinion is insulting a whole class of people. jackass.
Oct 29 2008 10:35PM
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Manbearpig..
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yeah but its not fucking poverty, nowhere near it,  if you want to compare countries most people in bangladesh make about 300 bucks a year
Oct 29 2008 10:36PM
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Ben.
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so now we should lower our standards to shittier countries? that makes perfect sense
Oct 29 2008 10:44PM
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Manbearpig..
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your fucking brain dead im finished talking to you

Oct 29 2008 10:52PM
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canuck
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What! $30,000 can be a good life, like the kid said, it's not poverty. So now you are saying that not only should we get people out of poverty with  governemnt $ but we should also give them money so that they become rich or even wealthier.

come on man give me a break...

Plus you still havent said all the "tons" of things that Obama has done for Chicago.

Oct 29 2008 10:55PM
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skiminnesota
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its kinda hard to keep track and gather statistics on people who are not really accounted for...

that being said, i have done a fair amount of working with illegals, and i agree that "MOST" mexicans do not make this much.
Oct 29 2008 10:59PM
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cfox
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JEA!11
Oct 29 2008 11:06PM
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Manbearpig..
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my dad pays alot of them to do painting and yardwork and he said they make that easy cause of how much they work
Oct 29 2008 11:09PM
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Manbearpig..
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haha you just prove my point you dumbass,   if 18 billion went back to mexico that means mexicans are making enough money to both survive and send some back to their fam in mexico

jeesus
Oct 29 2008 11:12PM
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skiminnesota
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WORD. 30k is FAR from the soup lines. especially if you have 2 people in a household making that. 


Oct 29 2008 11:13PM
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Ben.
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30k. for a whole family? you cant do jack shit with 30k and a family.
Oct 29 2008 11:14PM
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Ben.
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mexicans sure as fuck arent making 60 grand a year. i doubt they are making 30.
Oct 29 2008 11:16PM
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canuck
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oh a family, well you should have said something, that means the mom can work too, so they can have double incomes. So we shouldnt worry about it. with the two incomes they can make $45,000 to $50,000.

Plus Obama still hasnt done anything for Chicago! Liar.

Oct 29 2008 11:19PM
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Ben.
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save it bud.
Oct 29 2008 11:20PM
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Manbearpig..
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well good then,,, when i have to write a paper on the subject it will look like this



Pol 225
Manbearpig
section 4332                               
                                      Paper on Mexicans
   
   .... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----..."and mexicans sure as fuck arent making 60 grand a year" (3)...-----------
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                                             Bibliography

1. ----------------------------
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2  ----------------------------  
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3   Corked7man. qtd in the reason i like Barack Obama. page 5 post 223,
         www.newschoolers.com, 2008.
Oct 29 2008 11:29PM
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Ben.
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are you really calling me out for not having sources? all your doing is speculating.
Oct 29 2008 11:33PM
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J.D.
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Previous action / inaction by moderators doesn't have a bearing on policy, first of all. There is no precedent value for staff actions. Secondly, I've never seen a mod call someone a "faggot", but if I do, I will delete it, promise.
Oct 29 2008 11:34PM
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Ben.
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http://www.house.gov/list/speech/ca50_bilbray/20071903.html
29,5 for a FAMILY. FAMILY. you cant support a family well at all on 29,5
and thats 2 incomes. so figure 14 a person. not much at all
Oct 29 2008 11:36PM
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skiminnesota
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i am not talking exclusively about any race. i am saying a single or even a couple. a single working person with an income of 30k is FAR from the soup lines... hell it was a shit load more than my dad made for years... i think he said first officers are being hired on now at 28k a year... not gonna support a family of 4, but maybe you need to wait. my dad didnt get married until he was 30 and didnt have kids until he KNEW, he could provide a living for his family.
Oct 29 2008 11:37PM
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Ben.
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im not arguing with you justin, you know what your talking about hahaha. however why should someone HAVE to wait. but again. fundamental differences.
Oct 29 2008 11:39PM
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skiminnesota
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no one made my dad wait, but a result of HIM making a smart choice and waiting i was born into a good upper middle class life. 

no one forced him to wait, but he did, and IMO it payed off.

Oct 29 2008 11:42PM
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Ben.
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it did. but i PERSONALLY dont think that he should have to make that choice. isnt that part of that pursuit of happiness that we are allowed by the declaration of independence? so why should we limit peoples ability to pursue that.
and i realize we arent actually preventing that, but we make it fiscal suicide.
Oct 29 2008 11:46PM
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Manbearpig..
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its just a little hypocritical for mods to both  say faggot and ban people for saying faggot.  or does that not seem hypocritical to you?
Oct 29 2008 11:48PM
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Ben.
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when has a mod said faggot? ever. i cant think of a mod that would ever use that word.
Oct 29 2008 11:49PM
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Ryno
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Republican extremists make for funny TV

Oct 29 2008 11:58PM
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Ben.
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hahahahaha omfg. that was ridiculous.
Oct 30 2008 12:01AM
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skiminnesota
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well i have heard "spread the wealth" out of Baracks mouth.

but but but but but its (ready for it ?) it "fair"
Oct 30 2008 12:07AM
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Campeador
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The truth about Obama's tax plan.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121910303529751345.html?mod=most_emailed_day

And all of you who really think its going to be 250k+ are just plain wrong. It'll be probably around 150k+ or lower who receive higher taxes when all is said and done. Its fiscally impossible for Obama to support all his proposed new spending.




Oct 30 2008 12:07AM
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ajax
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^^I usually don't post in political threads, but that was absolutely ridiculous/hilarious.
Oct 30 2008 12:09AM
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J.D.
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Reread my post: there is no precedent value for anything. When staff does something, going "ha! you did something inconsistent with that in this past instance!" is pointless. It does not matter, this website doesn't work that way. Bottom line: doesn't matter if it's hypocritical or if it isn't, the policy is the policy and we'll be carrying it out irrespective of what's happened in the past. That goes for all rules on the site.
Oct 30 2008 12:12AM
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Manbearpig..
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all the time you fucking moron just the other day actually i saw it

its no big deal faggot doesnt even mean gay. it just means your worthless


Oct 30 2008 12:12AM
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Ben.
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wow. the tiny, little bit of credibility you had left, just disappeared.
Oct 30 2008 12:13AM
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Manbearpig..
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jd dude your a loser

Oct 30 2008 12:15AM
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skiminnesota
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coming from Biden's mouth it IS 150k... i think Biden and Obama need to spend more time in communication with each other.
Oct 30 2008 12:17AM
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Manbearpig..
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oh jeez are you like the media or something
just cause the united states says faggot is a derogatory word for homosexual doesnt mean i have to.
faggot to me means loser, i have no problem with gay people and neither to most of the people who say faggot so get over yourself you political correction nazi
Oct 30 2008 12:29AM
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Ben.
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it has nothing to do with political correctness. it has to do with not being a bigot. but suit yourself
Oct 30 2008 12:39AM
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Manbearpig..
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how am i a bigot if i dont have problem with gay people,  jeesus man grow up
Oct 30 2008 12:41AM
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Ben.
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thats like saying. am i a bigot if i call black people niggers, but dont have a problem with them. yes i am.
and really? is grow up the best response you have to everything? i am grown up. hence why i dont use words like faggot. im not in high school anymore
Oct 30 2008 12:48AM
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skiminnesota
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just stop Ben. you cant reason with someone who is unreasonable. at least i have said as much to some people. hehehe
Oct 30 2008 12:50AM
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Manbearpig..
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i have black friends that i call nigga they dont care theyre not sentimental bitches like you
Oct 30 2008 12:57AM
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Ben.
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wow. that proves that your just an idiot
Oct 30 2008 1:05AM
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