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iggyskier
Posts: 10456 - Karma: 10,253
191cm Great Scott
145/125/130 corresponding to running length
Running Length = 122cm
Tip rocker = 25cm x 2 or 2.5cm
Tail rocker = 15cm x 1.5cm
Tip and Tail Height/Length = 6cm rise over 14.5cm
Total Tip Rise = 8 to 8.5cm
Total Tail Rise = 7.5cm
Turn Radius = 29.8m
Tapered Tip and Tail
Mount = -2 to -3cm along running length, -7 to -8cm overall


191 Caylor
147/121/144
Running Length = 92cm (go skiboards!)
Tip Rocker = 35cm x 2.5cm
Tail Rocker = 35cm x 2.5cm
Tip and Tail Height/Length = 6cm rise over 14.5cm
Total Tip Rise = 8.5cm
Total Tail Rise = 8.5cm
Turn Radius = 26.8m
Mount = -2 to -3


191cm Wrenegade
141/113/128
Running Length = 162cm
Tip Rocker = 15cm x 1.5cm (rec)
Tail Rocker = N/A
Tip and Tail Height/Length = 6cm rise over 14.5cm
Total Tip Rise = 7.5cm
Total Tail Rise = 6cm
Turn Radius = 30.5m
Mount = -7 to -9


186 Billy Goat
140/115/120 corresponding to running length
Running Length = 117cm
Tip Rocker = 25cm x 2cm
Tail Rocker = 15cm x 1.5cm
Tip and Tail Height/Length = 6cm rise over 14.5cm
Total Tip Rise = 8cm
Total Tail Rise = 7.5cm
Turn Radius = 22.8m
Mount = -2 along running length, -7 overall


186cm Jeronimo
145/115/142
Running Length = 157cm
Tip Rocker = 25cm x 2cm
Tail Rocker = 15cm x 1.5cm
Tip and Tail Height/Length = 6cm rise over 14.5cm
Total Tip Rise = 8cm
Total Tail Rise = 7.5cm
Turn Radius = 21.6m
Mount = -2 to -3


186cm JBS
132/104/120
Running Length = 157cm
Tip Rocker = 15cm x 1.5cm
Tail Rocker = NA
Tip and Tail Height/Length = 6cm rise over 14.5cm
Total Tip Rise = 7.5cm
Total Tail Rise = 6cm
Turn Radius = 28m
Mount = -5 to -7

179 Custom (unnamed) – Right now full custom
135/110/115 corresponding to running length (15cm tip taper, normal tail)
Running Length = 137cm
Tip Rocker = 15cm x 1.5cm (rec)
Tail Rocker = NA
Tip and Tail Height/Length = 6cm rise over 14.5cm
Total Tip Rise = 7.5cm
Total Tail Rise = 6cm
Turn Radius = 30.5m
Mount = -6 to -7


179 Blue Steele
111/85/111
Running Length = 150cm
Tip Rocker = NA or 15cm x 1.5cm
Tail Rocker = NA or 15cm x 1.5cm
Tip and Tail Height/Length = 6cm rise over 14.5cm
Total Tip Rise = 6 to 7.5cm
Total Tail Rise = 6 to 7.5cm
Turn Radius = 21.6m
Mount = Center
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laurence^
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the blue steeles looks sick...can they shred gnar in the park?
17 years ago
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skijunkiedtm
Posts: 9229 - Karma: 61
blue steele looks good. if only you had shorter ones :(
17 years ago
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cobra_commander
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yeah, the Blue Steele is the park ski, with design input from David Steele, hence the name, we were limited on what we could build, 179 worked well for all of us so that was what was made. We would love to make a few smaller sizes as well as possibly a larger sized park ski for the bigger folk.
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Literature
Posts: 13673 - Karma: 3,087
Basically the concept was to build a symmetrical park ski with the damp/poppy characteristics of my Wrenegades, and with a longer turn radius than some other skis out there.

Ideally, I'd like to do a 186 (because tall people need park skis too), 179 (already exists), 169, and maybe a 159.

As soon as I get my pair, there will be shreddage and a review.
17 years ago
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Steezasaurus
Posts: 796 - Karma: -53

just an opinion but, the idea of a very fat symmetrical park ski (similar to the Line Elizabeth) sounds like a good idea. I like the idea of throwing in a litlle bit of rocker too, but not as much as your caylor! (awsome looking ski) Here are some ideas for dimensions:

135/112/135 @ 174cm

it just an opinion for another ski, i have yet to demo ON3P due to the fact i live in the mid-west, but i cant wait to try them, out!

17 years ago
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Caveman.
Posts: 9067 - Karma: 330
Not trying to hate but what is the point of a fat park ski? I guess I've never skied a fat ski in park so I cant really base my opinion off of that but I just dont get it.
17 years ago
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TheFastRunner
Posts: 33 - Karma: 10
I would like to see a really long park ski, like 190.  I'm kind of tall and there isn't anything out there that is big enough...
16 years ago
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Yung_Gnarley
Posts: 9096 - Karma: 3,071
There is some really solid diversity in your lineup. I dig it.
16 years ago
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DirtyMick
Posts: 1496 - Karma: 21
Prices?

I saw some kid at my mountain (Alyeska) with Caylors. Fucking huge skis.
16 years ago
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DirtyMick
Posts: 1496 - Karma: 21
Fuck me I'm retarded. just saw the other thread. >.
16 years ago
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iggyskier
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there are changes coming to the lineup, but I am waiting to get funding before we go on with everything, so hopefully I will have a lot more to tell people soon.
16 years ago
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DirtyMick
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Sick man. would really like to support your cause.
16 years ago
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Slinger1x1
Posts: 8853 - Karma: 67
how bout something inbetween the blue steele and the 179 Custom

like a 179 with a 95+ waist and a nice widish tip. Something that can go on piste well thats not only park (blue steeles are much more park oriented) and thats not to fat underfoot. something that can rip at high speeds on groomers, that can throw down in the park, and that can handle the BC
16 years ago
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iggyskier
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New Jeronimo fills that gap.  We are dropping the current jmo shape and just adding a 181cm caylor.

then the new jeronimo will be....

181cm, 171cm.  I have not finalized the exact shape, but it is looking like it will be 96 underfoot, 22m turn radius (181), rockered tip and tail (25cm, but low rocker), and a mount around -3cm from center.
16 years ago
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Caveman.
Posts: 9067 - Karma: 330
Blue Steeles need to be longer and stiffer. It would be cool to have a park ski thats not center mounted as well.
16 years ago
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iggyskier
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well our 181cm skis are really 184cm, so it is a 184cm park ski basically.

and it is not super soft.  I have been skiing mine with no issue out of the park (which was a shock to me at first).

And there will be a 181/171 jeronimo, 96 underfoot, slight tip and tail rocker, mount -3cm from center, for those wanting park and all mountain performance
16 years ago
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Caveman.
Posts: 9067 - Karma: 330
Are the Blue Steeles David was skiing on the 184? They just seemed way to short. Maybe it was the huge tip and tail rise.
16 years ago
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iggyskier
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179.  look at them compared to other skis. definitely not short.
16 years ago
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Caveman.
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OK.. I skied them and they skied short.
16 years ago
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iggyskier
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center mount definitely makes them feel that way.  Also the reason I added 2cm.

His pair was not that stiff, either.
16 years ago
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Yung_Gnarley
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Thank you! I'm 6'4" and it's near impossible to find good park skis in the 181ish range
16 years ago
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TeamJones
Posts: 629 - Karma: 12

I'm considering 181 Jeronimos.  I have a couple questions:

At 6'4" 180 and a pretty aggresive skier, is this long enough with the rocker?  I have 0 experience with rockered skis, so that's why I'm wondering. I'm on 174 PEs now, so I'm used to shorter skis, but a 102 running length seems kinda short.

How do they hold up in moguls?  At Penn State my options for varied skiing are pretty limited, but from what I've heard there's a decent mogul run and a decent park (decent by local standards), so I'm going to need something that can handle both.

I've considered Blue Steele's as well, but I dunno if I'm in the park enough to warrant symmetrical skis with a center mount.

16 years ago
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coolhandluke
Posts: 4465 - Karma: 153
yeah 6'4" people skiing on3ps!

rocker is like a drop axel on a dump truck.  down when needed.  up when it ain't.

^ sam caylor is a few inches shorter than you and maybe a few pounds heavier, and he rocked the jmo's the last half of this year. his screename is caylor.
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