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Sth 12, marker griffon, look px 12 ti

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a--1
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i have been looking into all these bindings and im not sure which ones to get
i am 115- 120 and about 5'4 i will be skiing about 50-50 all mountain and park
i'll be mounting them on 161 line anthems
Aug 9 2008 7:46PM
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agustinco
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does anybody knows the weight of the griffons?

thanks!
Aug 9 2008 7:57PM
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japanada
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light as fuck. We got some in at work and i was holdin them, and they are 1 of the lightest bindings ive ever held. way lighter than any px binging for sure!.
Aug 9 2008 8:35PM
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Shadows
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that is how they test bindings. and there is a machine for it.
Aug 9 2008 11:42PM
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Shadows
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i dont understand what you mean. like what axis are you pulling the boot on.
Aug 10 2008 12:01AM
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PacificRimJob
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We just got the griffons at the shop i work for. They are stupid light. WAYY lighter than the jesters. Pretty legit looking to be honest.

still they have the worst dildos on them ever... i got buttraped hard by my buddy's jesters last year and it left a bruise on my right cheek. sucked.

Aug 10 2008 12:30AM
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Shadows
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the toe and the heel would/do not release simultaneously. one of them releases before the other depending on how the boot is torqued. they dont test for that because if both the toe and the heal are in spec then there isnt a problem.
when you fall, the boot isnt torqued under foot at all because the force is never centered in the exact middle of the boot. its always greater on the tow or heel so it would release at that point. unless your forward pressure is fucked up, then whatever.
Aug 10 2008 12:33AM
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Shadows
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they all have a standard spec. so every binding made (if working properly) should release at the same point in relation to DIN setting. STH12 and griffons and P12's should all release at the same torque levels if the DINS are the same.
Aug 10 2008 12:39AM
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yeahitsdave
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din is one of the few standard measurements in the ski industry.

i believe that because of the elastic travel in the heel of both the px12s and griffons that u should be less likely to prerelease from downward pressure.
Aug 10 2008 8:49AM
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GatoGordo
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I was messing around with a pair of dukes one day, and I was seeing some of the different angles that I might be able to pop the boots out, and it really suprised me. They really are aimed at keeping you boot in until they need to, and they won't pre release. The boots were bending, as well as the skis before the bindings released, but once they hit a certain point, the binding would release. I compared them to a bunch of other bindings, and they just seemed a lot better. I am getting some griffons as soon as i can order them on shop form.
Aug 10 2008 10:29AM
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MasterOz
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Ya, go with the griffons. im loving mine. got em mounted on the new lizzies. they're super light
Aug 10 2008 10:55PM
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a--1
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whats you weight?
Aug 11 2008 1:26PM
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a--1
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bump
Aug 11 2008 11:15PM
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TimmyK
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highly recommend the look px series, but def not the griffon whish is just like the jester it had many problems because of the brittle plastic used as housing if used in the park
Aug 12 2008 1:43AM
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japanada
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How can you say this? The griffon is brand new for this season? I am hoping that you arent talking about the jester, cause i had them one 2 or my pairs, and sold many pairs at work, and I never once had any come back with any problems. I cant say that about any look/rossi px/axial bindings.
Aug 12 2008 2:10AM
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Twig
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I am choosing between these too.
From what I gather:
STH 12 - Strong, Middle Weight, Less elastic travel, Possible problem with '3 hole'' toe?
Griffon - Questionable but unproven durability, Light, Good Elastic Travel
Px12 - Relatively Durable, Heaviest, good elastic travel (but I have had pre-release problems)
Can someone clear this up and help me choose. 5'8, 135-140.. Mounting on Moment Jibs and/or Rockers.. Will be skiing hard.. all over the mountain.. no bigger than 40 foot jumps.. or 30 foot drops..
Oct 9 2008 5:24PM
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mBall
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Hey im 5"6, 115-120 lbs. I need to mount my fujatives. What bindings? griffon? Anyone actually skied them or is it all about the hype?
Oct 9 2008 7:54PM
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baseballski03
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definately go griffons from the choices you had listed!
Oct 10 2008 1:07AM
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lepp0012
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I'm planning on getting PX 12 Ti's for Walls. I currently have Marker 12.0 Free's which have been total crap. Constantly pre-release, and I break a break every weekend. Granted, the Griffon is a totally different design, but I also weigh 175, so I don't really want to trust an unproven plastic design.

The light weight is really tempting, but I just don't want to be taking my skis into the shop all season.
Oct 10 2008 9:08AM
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Twig
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I am leaning towards the griffons, because I can get them cheaper and they are lighter..
Basically does it come down to durability (STH) vs Weight/Elastic Travel (griffon)?
Oct 11 2008 5:27AM
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