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Little tyke skis/BINDINGS? (+karma fo help, important binding question)

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phishfood
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so i just got a 50% of thing on backcountry.com and i'm gonna give it to my friends little brother who needs his first set of park skis. i also need to order them by saturday so quick replys would be super cool.
he's 4'9'', pretty light i'm not sure how much but hes going into 8th grade. probably 70-80 lbs.
the skis i have to choose from right now (that are reasonably in his length, though some might be too long) are:

volkl ledges 158 (volkl measures long, they'll be around 153 right?)
salomon flyers 151
maybe k2 fujis in 159 (looong)
maybe 4frnt TNKs in like 155 but i'm not a big fan of 4frnt park skis

he'll be skiing ice coast, probably 50/50 groomers/park. no powder unless we get luck this season. i'm pretty set on the ledges but i just wanted to make sure they weren't super stiff or too long or anything.

my biggest question is bindings- are rossi axial 120 TIs too much binding if hes so tiny? they're the lowest din bindings on backcountry outlet. or should i get junior bindings? i think the rossi should be ok, i just REALLY don't want to be responsible if his bindings don't release and he gets hurt.
the problem is all they're juinor bindings with a 3-7 range. and that seems really small for someone going into 8th grade. plus i'm not sure if our local shop has the right jig to mount them.

heres their juinor binding selection if that helps:

http://www.backcountryoutlet.com/outlet/group/100000054/Kids-Alpine-Skis-Ski-Bindings-Ski-Poles.html

alright thanks, +++ karma for replys i don't know what to do about the bindings. remember i have to order them by saturday.


Jul 16 2008 11:02PM
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Silence
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Does he have junior or adult boots?

There can be compatibility issues with Junior boots when they are used with Adult bindings. Some bindings are able to be used with both junior and adult boots, but that is binding-specific.
Adult/junior boots v. Adult/junior bindings can often be incompatible due to the differences in boot sole width which can impact the shock absorption ability of certain binding models..So an adult boot in a junior binding may not release as reliably as an adult boot in an adult binding (if that makes sense)

It may be a liability thing, and it may be a bit far fetched but thats what many binding manufacturers say.

I would think that he is in a pair of adult boots and would be somewhere in the vicinity of 3-5 release setting..in that case I would consider a 3-10din adult binding. Rossignol Axium 100 or 110 would be fine, but looking at bc.com there isn't any there..Nova Team 7 binding they have in stock could be ok I guess
Jul 16 2008 11:19PM
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phishfood
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i honestly have no idea what boot he has. i'm beginning to think i'll just get the skis, and get other bindings off a different site. you can get salomon z10s for like $100, and they'd be fine right?
again thanks for the help
Jul 16 2008 11:54PM
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Silence
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Yeah Z10's would be ok..Seriously, anything 3-10 will work.

You could go a junior binding but adult bindnigs will often be made to withstand a bit more abuse
Jul 17 2008 12:02AM
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rudager
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My sister has the Line Celebrity Minis, at 133cm. She has the rossi scratch jr, It was a good winter for her, she doesn't do much jibbin, but she skis the steeps. The ski is like the invader mini. My friends little brother has those at 133 I think. with the rossi Axium jr. He shreddded on them, 5's, drops, you name it. That stuff held out.

If that helps at all
Jul 17 2008 12:20AM
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BigMeech621
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IM JUST WARNING YOU NOT TO PUT ADULT BOOTS IN JUNIOR BINDINGS BECAUSE MY LITTLE BROTHER HAD THAT WITH HIS BIG FEEY AND THERE WAS A BIG GAP BETWEEN THE BOOT AND BINDING.  HE GOT NEW BINDINGS BECAUSE WHENEVER HE WOULD AND THEY WOULD POP OUT.
Jul 17 2008 12:25AM
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phishfood
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yea i'm probably not going to get junior bindings.

PLEASE READ- he's actually 4'11'', there was an error in communication the other night. are 158 volkls still ok or should i move up to 168?
Jul 17 2008 9:15AM
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rudager
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well if he's 4'11", that works out to about 147cm. And he's probally growing. so by the time ski season shows up, he'll be bigger. It's all your call
Jul 17 2008 1:50PM
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papasteeze
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got alot of experience in this..   flyers in 151 with z10 would be perfect.
Jul 17 2008 3:40PM
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