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What do you like to see in a park ski?

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panojibber
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As the title says, what do you like to see in a park ski? ie. Reduced edges, butterzones, carbon fiber stringers, rocker, amount of camber, sidecut, etc etc...
If you have any thoughts, please post them, and say:
1. Why you would like to see it.
2. What effect it would have.
3. And how you would do it.
May 30 2008 11:01PM
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R.Fahey
Posts: 8602 - Karma: 539
Here's my ideal park ski.
Tip: 111
Waist: 84
Tail: 111

Length - 176
Camber - Normal
edges, nothing fancy.  Solid, beefy, and full wrap around.
Construction: sidewall construction, with a bamboo or other medium flexing wood core that pops  like whoa, with a symmetrical flex.  And send a carbon fiber stringer up it for fun, but I don't think they do much.  More of a selling point.

pretty much an average park ski..
May 30 2008 11:44PM
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theres_ghosts
Posts: 875 - Karma: 13

125-95-125

maybe just a tab bit of rocker
butterzones
pretty much a super soft ski in the tips and tail but firmer underfoot

May 30 2008 11:47PM
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Balto
Posts: 25985 - Karma: 4,398
115-86-110
mini rocker
butter zone right where the rocker starts
soft tip/tail stiff under foot
May 30 2008 11:53PM
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dave44
Posts: 11052 - Karma: 113

full-wrap edges are more likely to delam than 3/4 wrap edges i think

May 30 2008 11:53PM
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ChanchoVelez.
Posts: 1029 - Karma: 11
awesomeness
May 31 2008 12:01AM
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cobra_commander
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yeah thats true, 3/4 wrap is way more less likely to delam, or have edges popping out then full wrap.


SO mine would be some thing like:
180cm,
83mm waist
19m radius
fully symmetrical
aluminum or titanium tip spacers.
3/4 wrap
thin bamboo core,
two layers of fiberglass
one layer of carbon
yup thats it.
May 31 2008 12:11AM
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carbon.pulse
Posts: 3348 - Karma: 22
Thats pretty brief, how much epoxy are you wanting?
May 31 2008 12:27AM
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R.Fahey
Posts: 8602 - Karma: 539
not if they're made right I don't think.  And if they're not full wrap around eventually something happens and you have one sticking out.  like catching it on a rail when you're spinning out or something. 
May 31 2008 12:36AM
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cobra_commander
Posts: 16909 - Karma: 4,682
no, K2 actualy did a study on it a few years ago, skis with edges that wrap all the way around the ski are more likely to delam, or have edges pop out then skis with a 3//4 wrap.

3/4 wrap > full wrap, its a fact.
May 31 2008 12:43AM
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jca
Posts: 4162 - Karma: 6,261
120-90-120
no camber
verra soft tipps and tails
stiff underfoot
no edges
 184
May 31 2008 1:07AM
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Piste.Off
Posts: 11586 - Karma: 1,861
185cm
125 tip
95 waist
125 tail

stiff underfoot.
soft in the tails and tips.
indestructible core of some sort of light material
May 31 2008 1:15AM
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MarkieR
Posts: 5337 - Karma: 98
  i'm a big fan of the anthem.  felt too soft for me at first but after a little time, its the most fun park ski i've used. 
May 31 2008 1:23AM
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johanblaze
Posts: 4987 - Karma: 343
112 underfoot.
May 31 2008 1:30AM
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blindside
Posts: 5619 - Karma: 1,199
lighter/skinnier hellbents
May 31 2008 1:52AM
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eheath
Posts: 61102 - Karma: 118,261
Anthems, period. Well, maybe anthems with sidewall construction.
May 31 2008 2:01AM
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garrett.
Posts: 9304 - Karma: 3,670
why would anyone want a rocker park ski? it doesn't really provide any support when landing, so unless your name is jon olsson and you land perfect everytime its not good.  also, theres no pop when just jumping.  rockering a park ski is fuckin stupid unless you want it for 100% butters and small rails
May 31 2008 2:16AM
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Tinga
Posts: 11349 - Karma: 2,333
im going to go ahead and say something weird. a fujative with some more tail girth.
May 31 2008 2:21AM
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FUUUCK
Posts: 18426 - Karma: 4,888
An Invader, only more bomb proof. Maybe a tad lighter.
May 31 2008 2:25AM
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ESAND
Posts: 1607 - Karma: 744
Something in a 190 plus for us taller folks.

Make it light.
May 31 2008 2:28AM
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Twig
Posts: 6336 - Karma: 57,070
ski one:
115 - 88 - 115.
fairly stiff flex.
lightweight
double edges.
stubby tips.
low swingweight.
about 171

ski two:
120 - 92 - 120
soft-mid flex
rockered
lightweight
about 176
May 31 2008 2:45AM
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InfernoHits
Posts: 4755 - Karma: 192
this year I feel the anthem and bluehouse MR. revolutionized what a park ski should be by having skis specifically made for park that are 93 under foot. Such a stable base and I personally feel the perfect size. Rocker seems pointless in park. Normal side cut, normal camber, beefed edges with a soft flex that can still hold an edge at speed.
May 31 2008 2:49AM
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Ryanvdonk
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i've skied anthems, i didn't find them particularly stable, loved to wash out and sloppy at speed. maybe im just used to really big jumps, but i actually like stiff park skis. like addict pros seem to be the shit IMO, though i dont know about the durability, which has been a major issue with my park skis.
May 31 2008 3:09AM
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St.Steezy
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stiffer tails, I can't stand soft tails..
May 31 2008 3:38AM
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eheath
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It's really all about how you land. I've noticed with soft, worn out skis that if yuo land back seat a little, you wash out, which is fine because it helps you land correctly. But i love my anthems and used them on PCs big jumps this year and never had a problem. Shit i hit like 75ft jump at the usfo two years ago with thalls, one of the softest park skis, especially for someone my size and it was fine. But some people prefer a very stable landing, but ive never had a problem with soft skis and big jumps and i am at no means a small guy.
May 31 2008 3:47AM
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LIL_WAT
Posts: 1900 - Karma: 475
something like:
110-83-110
169-173cm
standoutish graphics
rrp $300 or less.
a fat base
something good for ollying
some sort of wood core originating from canada

however, i have never found a ski that meets much of that criteria

May 31 2008 4:15AM
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snowbladesforlife
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Why do so many people want 90+ park skis?

Just because Pollard makes them doesn't mean you need them, they seem so unnecessary.

less than 78 in the center is key, it is far more functional in the park. The swing weight is far less, rails are easier, spinning is easier and theoretically they should delam less than a soft, wide ski. JO made his 77 and Line 1260s, the greatest park skis ever were 76 and soft as shit, too bad they only last like 20 days.
May 31 2008 5:41AM
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SK1ERDUDE
Posts: 1365 - Karma: 51
I don't like wide park skis. I'd like a ski with an 80 underfoot and tons of pop.
May 31 2008 9:44AM
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panojibber
Posts: 3382 - Karma: 216
So what makes the anthems so great? Is there one specific feature you like about them, or is it just the whole package that makes them a good ski?
May 31 2008 9:52AM
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chazz.
Posts: 2721 - Karma: 23
its really the whole package. read my review in my signature for some more detail, but quickly here...
IMO
why anthems are the best ski ever made:
1)butter zones--ski feels fairly stiff until you lean in, then it just gives like no other
2)girth--i use these skis for 3 feet of fresh and they float and ski pow just the way i like to ski it
3)stability--comes from girth, locks on to rails and stomp the snot out of landings
4)symmetrical--why center mount a non-symmetrical ski? carves switch almost better than forwards
5)cheap--i dont think i need say more for us working folk
6)graphics--who doesnt want a truck stop wolf or pink keyboard on their skis?!?!?
May 31 2008 10:28AM
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Celone
Posts: 1998 - Karma: 114

118-90-118
symmetric
reinforced edge underfoot
mid flex
extremely light
butter zones
carbon ollieband
mini rocker both sides
173


its like a shorter version of reno rocker, except not as much rocker and with an ollieband

May 31 2008 8:57PM
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phishfood
Posts: 2542 - Karma: 298
183 length

115-87-115

flex exactly like the 07-08 dumonts (stiff tail, moderately buttery nose- super poppy)

one layer of edge armor and graphics like the salomon suspect

"mini-cap" construction topsheet like the scratch ghetto

oh and the scratch ghettos also say they have a "THC core", and i'd want that cause it just sounds awesome.

so basically a symmetrical 08 dumont with edge armor
May 31 2008 9:19PM
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pmw
Posts: 5760 - Karma: 829

that ski would be fucken dope as hell,i would buy it in an instant

Jun 3 2008 5:06PM
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thefilmerguy
Posts: 2847 - Karma: 55
word up man.  word the fuck up..

read my anthem review and you will read that exact same thing.
Jun 3 2008 5:14PM
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alaskakid
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180cm long
137-100-127
pretty damn stiff but poppy
JO pro lightness
sidecut made to be mounted -2 back from true center

Jun 3 2008 5:39PM
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cfox
Posts: 2286 - Karma: 40
anthems...or...fujatives probaly anthems fattier
Jun 3 2008 7:21PM
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chazz.
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or you can read my review....
Jun 4 2008 10:24AM
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thefilmerguy
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well you had already stated what would probably have been said in your review eh?
Jun 4 2008 11:46AM
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Calb3rt
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i absolutely loved my chronic blends in the park, i think a symmetrical version of them would make my nipples harden. they were so poppy, buttering was loads of fun because you can pop way high out of them and be in total control the whole time. they were super solid on jumps and were extremely stable on rails.
Jun 5 2008 4:05PM
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chazz.
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that would be like a stiffer anthem
Jun 5 2008 11:14PM
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BigJew
Posts: 6974 - Karma: 79
85mm waist
Nearly symmetrical but a bit wider on the tip
Fairly Stiff, I don't like noodles
Not a ton of camber so they're not as hooky and sketchy reverts
Sandwich Construction
Indestructable edges
Jun 6 2008 12:32AM
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Matteskier
Posts: 66 - Karma: 16
Superstiff, superpoppy, lightweight,skinny..yea thats where its at.

dimensions like 110-80-110

lenght: about 177

Jun 6 2008 2:38AM
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Calb3rt
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precisely.
Jun 6 2008 4:14AM
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phishfood
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reno jib son
Jun 6 2008 12:30PM
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schmies
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A wood core.
Jun 6 2008 4:14PM
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