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Elg
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Anyone doing them? I've never seen a video of one. came over them while playing jibbin+, and they look kinda cool. but that's just in the game.. i did search the bar a little, but i only found threads from like 2003...
May 22 2008 10:24AM
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JuliusJ
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i was wondering this too, so i think that like super cork switch fives are almost like a switch flatspin. like half of his switch dj flip 10 in 7 sunny days is like that
May 22 2008 10:50AM
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JArens
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I remember seeing Peter Olenick doing switch flat 3's this past season
May 22 2008 11:01AM
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Elg
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karma to anyone who posts a video of one! i can't find ssd in norway...
May 22 2008 11:22AM
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slashquatch
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andy mahre does it in idea ill see if i can find a clip
May 22 2008 11:23AM
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slashquatch
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found it at like 1:45 in this they start showing clips of it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKJkLuBT698
May 22 2008 11:29AM
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JArens
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kinda looks more like a switch cork 3
May 22 2008 11:38AM
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jeppenator
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Sw cork 540 japan
here is a picture of me doing a sw 540, may be flat?
starts the rotation like a sw cork 5 but somewhere in the middle it becomes a flat..
unfortunalley i dont got it on tape.. but enjoy the picure ;)

May 22 2008 11:39AM
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Elg
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yeah, that clip from Idea looked more like a cork 3, but i'm not sure. But thanks anyway, karma+!!
May 22 2008 11:44AM
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nickmiles
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there is a kid that lives at mammoth that does sw rodeo 5 but they are really flat. his name is dennis, idk his last name but he is from denmark. i don't have any shots of it. but its dope. he has done them to 7 too which are realll realll dope. 
May 22 2008 12:52PM
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.hazen.
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yup, sick picture, props
May 22 2008 1:54PM
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JuliusJ
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hopefully this embends watch jon at about 0:28
May 22 2008 9:05PM
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JuliusJ
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heres the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GHS42gmJUQ what does jon do at 0:28? switch flatspin maybe?
May 22 2008 9:06PM
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slashquatch
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id call it a switch corked 5 but to be honest your kinda splitting hairs at that point it could be considered switch flat spin
May 22 2008 9:13PM
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Capurnicus
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whatever year it was that they cancelled slopestyle and just had big air for the x games,pep did a switch flat 7...i also might call pep's crazy switch 9 thing from idea a switch flat spin. you guys probably know the one i mean.
May 22 2008 9:38PM
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1080ski
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i dont really understand why your comparing cork and flatspin. flatspin is a not inverted rodeo, it is a different spin than a cork all together...

i do sw rodeo 7's and 5's but they are def. upside down... i have a friend who does his sw rodeos and they arent upside down all the time, but dont have it on tape
May 22 2008 9:47PM
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garrett.
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if a switch rodeo doesn't go upside down its a switch cork
May 22 2008 9:54PM
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aidansheahan
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think of like throwing switch misty style, like the pep roll kinda. a switch 180 into a rodeo 5, or 7 turning it into 9. visualize it and it makes sense.
May 22 2008 9:58PM
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1080ski
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why though? regular rodeo, when not inverted, is a flatspin, so why does it turn to cork if your going switch? the rotations are the same weather you go forward or backwards, you just throw em differently...

maybe im missing something though so please explian
May 22 2008 10:05PM
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General_Shredgnar
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switch cork 3s are so sick, hottest trick out there.
May 22 2008 10:29PM
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assface
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i like the thread, i was thinking if anyone had done these like 3 days ago
May 22 2008 11:31PM
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Alex_G
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yeah jon's been doing them, he did some at PC in his videoblog this year.
May 23 2008 12:51AM
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pretzels
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cool video i guess. it had some really good skiing but the camera angle was shaky. that is sick that he did a follow head camera for the super slow shots but it would have been better if the skiers stayed in the picture the whole time. good try tho, maybe they will get some better shots this summer.
May 23 2008 1:01AM
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albatross.
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jon olsson has been doing the same tricks for 3 years
tj schiller has been doing the same tricks for 5 years



i wanna go pro it sounds like easy money
May 23 2008 1:23AM
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FUUUCK
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theyre thrown completely differently though...
May 23 2008 1:34AM
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nellyyy
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ok. granted jon did not learn anything new this year, he learned like 4 new doubles last year (06-07).
05-06, he learned kang and double flat 7.
06-07, he learned switch double cork 10 (hexo), switch double rodeo 9, double cork 10 and double cork 12.

May 23 2008 3:54PM
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garrett.
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uhmm.... no.  and i know this because i can do both switch cork 7s and switch rodeo 7s (yeah claim but its beneficial).. for switch rodeos you just drop your shoulder a little more
May 23 2008 4:01PM
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Karcher
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Pete olenick does one in this video:

https://www.newschoolers.com/web/content/videos/id/170280/cat/top/search_string/us+open+big+air+2008/




May 23 2008 5:22PM
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garrett.
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no he doesnt
May 23 2008 5:43PM
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Karcher
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you are wrong
May 23 2008 5:53PM
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blakroc
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if u drop ure shoulder more on a cork its not rodeo its an underflip, cork and rodeo are completly thrown differently, corks are like ure on the ground rolling over while rodeos (for the first 3) are like ure doing the coffee grinder on your back thats why flatspins are so close because its basically ur doing the cofee grinder on your side 
May 23 2008 6:34PM
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1080ski
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im glad you can do them, but you dont deny phisics... if you have to throw the spins differently going forward, you have to throw em differently going backwards. its as simple as that.

rodeo and flatspin are thrown one way, cork is thrown another. going doing a switch rodeo, your body moves throw the exact same motion as a forward rodeo, except you are facing backwards. the spin doesnt change at all. the same should go for flatspin, and the same for cork. if i am wrong, correct me, but i really cant belive that because you are going switch, you throw em the same, just one is inverted.

its like saying that going forward, your rodeo is a rodeo, then when its not inverted, it is a cork, when it isnt.


i think that you are either doing sw rodeo and sw flatspin, or sw dspin and sw cork, and are just getting rotations mixed up b/c people either tell you it was a sw cork, when they dont know what sw cork looks like, or b/c they may feel similar. i dont know, but i think you are wrong. this is only supported by me constatnly seeing people not call out tricks correctly (debating between cork and misty, for example, which are two totally different rotations, and people call em the same thing all the time)



May 23 2008 6:40PM
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1080ski
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nah man, underflip and rodeo are very similar rotations. if you drop a shoulder more on a cork its a d-spin. underflip is easy to confuse with rodeo, but is diff. than a cork
May 23 2008 6:41PM
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JArens
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you are right!
May 23 2008 6:45PM
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blakroc
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well think about it when u cork u look back at the jump lip well at least i do and when u under flip u look back at the jump and drop ure shoulder right? thats preety close like i got the idea they were close hwen i first tryed cork 7s id underflip 7 cuz i hucke to hard and then i just didnt try as hard and id cork 7...

May 23 2008 6:47PM
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1080ski
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underflip: http://youtube.com/watch?v=vWw_87T6Y-I

dspin: http://media.nscdn.com/uploads/member/videos/7772ds9.niclas.wmv

underflip is more of a spin 90, lincoln loop, spin 90 sort of deal. its hard to explain, but watch the vids.





May 23 2008 7:22PM
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1080ski
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also, i cant do rodeos on skis, but i can cork and stuff just fine. cork, i look back at the lip and drop my left shoulder (spin left), underfilp/rodeo's, i imagine you would look at the jump and drop your right shoulder, instead of the left... thats what i think of in my head when i do em on the tramp at least, but i could be wrong
May 23 2008 7:23PM
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loganimlach
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you have to picture the axis that your rotating on to show the difference between flatspin and cork. With flat spins, you are spinning around an axis that goes through your hips, parallel to say your belt. However when spinning cork and rodeo, you are spinning around an axis that starts at your head and goes out your asshole, and though the axis itself rotates (depending on how corked you are) you are still spining around that primary axis. And whoever said that throwing switch rodeos and switch corks are not similar, you have obviously never done either, because if you can switch cork, all you have to do is through your shoulder a little harder and youre at a switch rodeo.

May 23 2008 7:32PM
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blakroc
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thats definatly not the axis for rodeo i can rodeo and cork, i cant switch rodeo but its not a totally different axis for switch rodeos...rodeos are spinning your head and feet around your cock basically except on your back, look at mike wilson he does sick rodeos
May 23 2008 8:04PM
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blakroc
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man im not to sure what u do on the tramp maybe u do have it but all i know is to do mine all i did was really drop my left shoulder cuz think about it u drp ure left shoulder to hard in a cork your gunna do a 90 and then go totally under becuse you hucked down to hard instead of focusing more on the spin...at least thats how i did it
May 23 2008 8:08PM
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Switchin_Dirty
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skogen sprang : ski movie by MSP


switch flat spin is the same as switch rodeo. just NOT inverted, more like FLAT on your back.

mike hornbeck and tyler barnes do them very well.
May 23 2008 8:18PM
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Kazabazua
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no such thing as switch flatspin... i do switch cork 5's and to make them rodeo i just carve harder, switch cork = your head still above your feet, switch rodeo = your head is under your feet.
May 24 2008 4:12PM
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MarkieR
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sw back for sure.  i know he was trying to claim that they were sw flat 3's but they're definitely just sw backs with a tilted japan grab.
May 24 2008 4:23PM
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JArens
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isn't that exactly what Jon does when he does flat 3's?
May 24 2008 4:25PM
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quebecfreestyler
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I,ll uplaod a vid of one of my switch 5 that is pretty flatish.

It's pretty much and uninverted switch rodeo. you can bring them around to 360 wich is way hard or keep spining to get back on axis.

May 24 2008 4:54PM
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1080ski
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no man, i dont think so... going forward, cork and rodeo are NOT the same rotation (i mean how you throw it, not if it goes inverted), so why is that going to change when you are going switch? if i am wrong, give me a reasonable explanation, because all ive heard is

"nah dude, i can do sw. cork and sw. rodeo, there almost the same" and that doesnt hold water. people fuck up naming tricks all the time. i really think that there is a difference between sw. flatspin and sw cork, but maybe, the laws of physics cease to exist while skiing switch.
May 24 2008 5:09PM
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quebecfreestyler
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Cant get the vid embed for some reason but here is a link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9NamHVT2Zg

It's pretty small but you can see it's a mix between a fakie rodeo and a regular fakie 5
I had some on film with dos too
May 24 2008 5:26PM
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1080ski
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^thank you.

here we go: debate is settled:

sw flatspin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9NamHVT2Zg




sw cork: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucQs-V5IMwo




hope the embeds work. there not the same trick. look at where people are in relation to the spin, at different times.
May 24 2008 5:27PM
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1080ski
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oops:

sw cork 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucQs-V5IMwo


May 24 2008 5:29PM
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jKutcher
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those were basically all sw corks.

think of it like this.  flat 3 is essentially an off axis backy right?

so sw flat 3 should be off axis sw backy.  i have seen pete o do them.  they are cool

May 24 2008 6:38PM
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quebecfreestyler
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to me a flat 3 is have always been any rotation where your rotating flat to the ground the way i do my flat spins is  like Iay on my back on the ground and someone grab my legs to make me spin around.
May 24 2008 7:12PM
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