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Skiing Europe: A conclusion I have made

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Billiards.
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My conclusion: If you plan on skiing in the Alps, you should also plan on getting mauled by another skier at least once. Why? From my experience, collisions are very common in the Alps. I would say 50% or more of the riders on the mountain here, are complete gaypers. Many of the skiers and snowboarders here ski completely out of their level, charging groomers and nailing people like me. If you think they will stop and say sorry, your usually wrong because many of these out of control skiers think they are complete hot shit and its obviously not their own fault. My dad was also mauled by some joey from god knows where.

Anyway, today I got mauled by some fuck in a green and yellow one piece suit. He was hauling ass and I was taking nice GS style turns, trying to stay aware of who is behind me. Then greenfuck hits me and skis off (while I sit there spitting blood) without giving a flying fuck. Oh well maybe karma will give him an awakening, otherwise you can share your stories to make me feel better.
Feb 1 2008 11:08AM
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thedutchmayn
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i would have chased him without a doubt.
Feb 1 2008 11:17AM
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Billiards.
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He had a whole clan of fucks with him. I was alone and could have been blinded by the neon.
Feb 1 2008 11:20AM
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followCam
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Yep, going up the chair in 2 Alpes thats over the Skier X course, you'll see aout 4 or 5 people, every ride, eat it cause they cant ski, but mach it down the course.


Best thing to do is to learn a few French or Swiss phrases you can shout at people that crash into you.
Feb 1 2008 1:29PM
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Billiards.
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Yeah I speak a little bit, so I was able to let him know my feelings.
Feb 1 2008 1:30PM
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Yauch
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i guess so, i love the alps though
Feb 1 2008 2:06PM
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Literature
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My solution: Taser.
Feb 1 2008 2:11PM
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FUUUCK
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ski with a gun?
Feb 1 2008 2:16PM
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grifter
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yea, I ski Alps, and you allways get some retard 12 year old french kid fucking your line up, last time a kid cut me up , fell over in front of me, then complained when his nose connected with my tips...twat.
Feb 1 2008 4:58PM
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Shmee150
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I'm guessing you were in Austria or East Switzerland?

As a Brit, I only ski the alps, and I hate going to Austria/ swiss resorts like Davos, Klosters etc... for exactly the same reason - well the general attitude everywhere; on the slopes, lift queues, around town etc... However sticking with Verbier, Chamonix, Val d'Isere, Courchevel you don't get that...
Feb 1 2008 5:02PM
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Shmee150
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.... (cont) as much
Feb 1 2008 5:03PM
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Benedetto.
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yeah europeans think their hot shit haha
Feb 1 2008 5:09PM
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grifter
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no, the retard-fool who decided to bail in front of me and complain when I skied over him was in Courchevel with his family, well it was somewhere in 3Valleys anyway. My friend (a boarder) managed to smack in to a girl who was celebrating her seventh birthday, pwned....

I think maybe its more of an overcrowding issue than a lame-skier problem, anyways I'm off to Zermatt in 2 weeks, I'll report back if there are any retard-fools there....
Feb 2 2008 6:03AM
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-_-Johnny-_-
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You don't go to the alps to ski piste. If you go off-piste there you won't be crashed into by anyone

Feb 2 2008 7:03AM
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jt9686
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ya, I'll agree with you, but errytime I've been taken out by some bottymon in tight pants and mega long super g skiis it has been after 2pm, and they've usually spent the middle of the day getting boozed out of their skull for 15 bucks a beer at folie a deux or some shit... i try to avoid the favourite routes home after three and go off piste more.
Feb 2 2008 7:32AM
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grifter
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yea there's allot of that... in the afternoon the piste becomes a no-holds-barred brawl, I've seen 3 fights  on the piste, and this was like 50 year old guys with there families.... these are the same guys who complain that freeskiing and Jibbing is ruining ski resorts,
Feb 2 2008 7:39AM
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Switch46
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Bullshit, It all depends on where you ski. In the more expensive places the level of the skiers is much higher. I have skied all my live in europe and went to Whistler this chrismas. I must say that the level skiers on the blackcomb mountain was not that great at all. Sure there are some very good skiers butt most of the skiers were not any different from most european skiers. Whistler mountain was better but can be compared with: Zermatt, Verbier, Saas Fee, les deux alpes etc. I simpely depends on were you go to europe and what time of the year. Some periods have more gaper tourist than other periods. So stop whining and don' t ski in europe if you hate it so much.
PS: Whistler was much better than europe.
Feb 2 2008 7:50AM
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grifter
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I'm not saying Europe's shit, And I'm not saying that US skiing standard is Better than Europe, what I'm saying is that you're pretty likely to end up with some dipshit kid cutting you up...
Feb 2 2008 7:54AM
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jt9686
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haha awesome sounds kinda like one of those post 9/11 bumper stickers "Meribel - if you don't like it get the hell out"...

nobody's sayin they hate it bro, indeed we wouldn't come back if we did.
Feb 2 2008 8:23AM
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rorybw
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i literally love the alps
Feb 2 2008 8:34AM
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grifter
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yep, I consider the Alps my second home. Cant get enough of it... Zermatt's gonna be intense.
Feb 2 2008 9:52AM
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Billiards.
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Yeah but you go to the Alps, ski off piste in the upper mountains. To get to the bottom where the towns and shit are theres like one fucking run with everyone on it. Im usually up skiing places without these people, then come down on the one or two runs they have to the base of the mountian.

LOCATION: CHAMONIX
Feb 2 2008 10:21AM
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grifter
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yea, you pretty much nailed that one, the fact there is normally one run going in to the town (Chamonix, Courchevel (la tania), Leysin, Les gets (there's 2 but ones shit)) means that its way over-crowded and it gets so fucking cut up, you might as well be skiing on grass/mud...
Feb 2 2008 10:33AM
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Billiards.
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Definately one of my favorite places in the world. I love it here, were having a good year and the snow is sick. Its given me a whole new perspective of skiing. Pretty sure I never said I hated Europe, also pretty sure I'm not whining about it. It just sucks when I have six weeks to ski this season and some asshole who doesn't even care to stop nails me and skis off completely out of control. There are a lot of people here that don't ski to there ability. I have not had this experience in the states. Though I love it here, the people are fucking nuts.
Feb 2 2008 10:37AM
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ValPow
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utter bullshit, never heard anything more ridiculous in the whole of my life

are you trying to say that you are less likely to be crashed into in the overcrowded pistes of val, 3 vallees, verbier etc. You make no sense sir, or you have little knowledge of the alps
Feb 2 2008 5:21PM
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Tex.
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here's a story for you willem...

i was once at snowbird and this kid i know named willem pissed this snowboarder off, this snowboarder was probably twice willems size and tried to pick a fight with willem, so his older and i might add strikingly hansom friend had to step in and tell the snowboarder to fuck off
Feb 2 2008 6:17PM
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snowbird4life
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yeah willen and peter almost got in a fight at the bird, i witnessed it from the chair, got there and had a few words but it seemed pretty much over by than so i wasnt gonna fret but i was ready to throw down for sure, stooopid bitch snowboarder almost got fuuuuucked up.
Feb 2 2008 6:25PM
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grifter
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Ha I saw 3 Finish skiers take there skis off and smack a snowboarder round the face, I don't know if it was a joke or not, but the boarder was pretty pissed afterwords !
Feb 2 2008 6:30PM
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FapMasterFLEX
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i woudlve pulled my ar15 out and let off a full clip and murked the punk mutha fucka. but thats just me
Feb 2 2008 8:58PM
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Canuker
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when someone runs me over like that i always manage to find them/ chase them down and think of a creative punishment :)
Feb 2 2008 9:11PM
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Twig
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i skiied the alps for 15 years and never had a collision.. they do happen more than in the US though you're probably right
Feb 2 2008 10:18PM
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lotsoffun
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ahhhh europeans. they also have like no understanding of personal space.

like i was on a helicopter tour in hawaii over a volcano and this german wife and husband were sitting left of me and my sister and everytime something came up on the right, they would just push over us and take a billion pictures with their nikons.
Feb 2 2008 10:50PM
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hoodSlayer
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Euros are so funny...Stop whining and grow a pair
Feb 2 2008 10:54PM
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HermioneGranger
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that sucks willem
Feb 2 2008 11:32PM
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GetPitted
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I still heaaaaaaaaart youuuuuus! 
Feb 3 2008 1:20AM
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SteezePatrol
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fucking arrogant austrians. this deushce bag and his girl were just like squeaking their way along the side the lift line i was in and i was like yo whats the deal and they keep goin so i put my pole on his chest and he;s like ahhhck stalingrad or some shit like that and tries to keep going. lift line lady came and saved the day tho

Feb 3 2008 1:41AM
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Billiards.
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Ya know when your casually skiing down the mountain and get nailed by some fuck and end up with cuts and bruises all over your face and hands and shit you would probably be frustrated as well.
Feb 3 2008 2:24AM
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grifter
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HA.... I've got a few Swiss friends who say it's been getting worse over the years, they think its due to more Russian visitors (half the signs in Courchevel (fr) are written in Russian, that's gotta tell you something...) But I'm not sure if its the Russians or not, I still think that its due to overcrowding, and how most alpine towns have one run to the town, so you get out-of-control 12 year olds unable to turn on crud/slush/mud who end up giving your top sheet some new decal and your face some new features...
Feb 3 2008 5:30AM
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ski_pie
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As long as you make sure you ski faster then everyone else on the slope, you know nobody can ever ski into you...

Oh and BTW, I am 90% certain that ''Joey'' was some drunk dutch idiot! (they always are)

Feb 3 2008 6:57AM
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Meisi
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this is really worth a topic, but if you’re smart enough it’s not a big problem to avoid overcrowded european resorts. just a few rules:

on weekend, never go to a big resort! why would you wanna ski a place where every stupid german wants to go just because he knows it has the biggest mountains there? switzerland has so many small resorts, not crowded at all and most of em are really fun to ski. only downside: no parks there
find those here:
http://snow.myswitzerland.com/snow_reports/?lang=en#

never come in february: all the germans, netherlands, and flatland swiss people are having their holydays then. come january or march, much better

if you really wanna go to a big resort, check out where you wanna go. there are always a few runs, no one knows and no one skis

but as sad before, its really getting worse with gapers here. so many ski above their level, and if you say a word, they are getting unfriendly. and worst thing is, already a few people died because of collisions.

just my thoughts while skiing 22 years in the alps and instructing for 5 years now



 
Feb 3 2008 9:41AM
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grifter
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Legit post

where abouts are you based?

I'll let you guys in on a secret: if you want a small ski "resort" with a park and the best ever bar at the end of the major run go to Leysin (ch) it's phenomenal, cant stress how sweet it is there...
Feb 3 2008 10:11AM
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Meisi
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im skiing the eastern alps of switzerland, mostly laax (also where i instruct), lenzerheide, arosa, davos.. im living in a small village about 15 min from laax
good smaller resorts in this area are tschitschen, brigels (has a nice, but small park), sedrun, obersaxen
Feb 3 2008 10:53AM
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zackblain
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karma isn't real
Feb 3 2008 10:59AM
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grifter
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awesome. I still haven't been to Laax, I MUST get out there, I'm not that great a park skier, since I've hardly had any time in the park, a few weeks in Laax would seriously help
Feb 3 2008 11:09AM
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Billiards.
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Yeah Ive been in Chamonix for over a month now, its amazing once you find out where to go. There are areas that rarely get skied, even on the famous areas. The people here are just crazy and sometimes I get the feeling that a lot of people have something to prove on the mountain. Its rather pathetic.
Feb 3 2008 11:17AM
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Matty_C
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dude, you have to bear in mind that chamonix, probably more so than anywhere else on earth, is a town run on testosterone alone. there are some genuinely gnarly skiers there tackling the rediculous terrain, then there's everyone else- trying to be gnarly but who clearly aren't. that's the dude that smoked you. it's a function of the terrain that draws out the idiot in people, so its less bad in lesser-known resorts. keep the faith!
Feb 3 2008 11:34AM
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Dex
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That is the reason why no one in europe goes sans poles!!! If you get taken out hunt them down with your poles!!!
Feb 3 2008 11:54AM
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grifter
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copy that ! my Scott poles are gnarled to hell, mainly from cracking them 'round piste-puppies, stupid kids... a few years ago all I skied was piste, you would be amazed how many ppl ski above there level, no control - no respect - no brains
Feb 3 2008 12:39PM
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HailSatan
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 That suck you got hit by a skier and did you tell your dad about it?
Feb 6 2008 10:57AM
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Dustin.
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I skiied the alps for three years and I don't know what you are tallking about.
Feb 6 2008 11:12AM
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skithebert
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ha thats interesting.  i never knew this.  i figured all these resorts were so big that you could get away from people.

I have noticed that europeans that come here do not understand how lift lines work though.  They just shove themselves in. 

One time some german douchebag crawls over all these peoples skis to jump in line with us.  he like snuck up behind us while we were waiting for the chair to come around and we already had four people.  so we suddenly realize this asshole jumped in and had to bail out while my buddies rode the lift up with that asshole.
Feb 6 2008 11:20AM
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