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Simon Dumont is officially rediculous. wow...

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thefilmerguy
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im not sure if there is a thread on this. i searched the first page and couldnt see one so.... i just watched the freeskier podcast on simon and jossi in keystone training for x. im was in complete and utter awe throughtout it. simon shreds the fuck out of the park. i had always kind of limited him to pipe in my mind but wow. front+misty seven in one trick. he was throwing jon's dj flip as well. i dont know whether to be uttlerly disgusted at how impressive/aerialistic it is or to enjoy it.

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Jan 13 2008 11:21PM
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je_te_baise
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MEH
Jan 14 2008 1:16PM
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East.
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Theres been plenty of hate on this subject already... Just because he threw that trick down in a practice run doesn't mean he'll do it during the x-games.. I agree, that at this point, he definitely shouldn't throw it at this point, but it obviously has potential. It seems like nowadays, all we have time to do is criticize.. No ones actually done anything yet besides try something new, so give them a little credit. It's like all of you guys didn't notice dumonts other shit in that video.. hes got his own style.. leave it at that...
Jan 14 2008 1:28PM
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radoripper
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man, he really should stick to pipe and keep doing those runs with boner style 1260s, no unnaty spins, and no switch stuff.

i am sure he was just joking around with those aerlist spins though.  no one could give those spins style...not even mickael.  i know people want progression and i like that he is trying something new but those spins were just wrong. 
Jan 14 2008 1:39PM
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Feschies
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Finally someone is doing something that will progress this sport.  The type of spins that Simon Dumont is doing is the only thing that is ever going to allow freestyle skiing to be in the same league as the olympic skiers who do those huge jumps and do crazy inverted spins.  Those guys hit much bigger jumps and focus on the most important aspect of big rotations; that is form.  Arms tight, legs together, and perfect rotations.  When they land, they don't land backseat or stumble and try to pretend it is "steese", they raise their arms like gymnastic athletes to show that they are 100% balanced.

I think Simon has founded a whole new segment of freestyling that will end up being the most important aspect of our sport.  Who can really say that his spins did not look 1000 times better than a corked 540 or a fakie 720 with a grab?  I have said this before, we need to find ways to fit more rotations into our jumps.  And the kids who said Simon did not "grab" on that spin?  Take a look again, he had his hand firmly placed on his boot.
Jan 14 2008 1:56PM
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Tapes
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i really hope you aren't serious
Jan 14 2008 1:58PM
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-justice-
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i agree that dumont's doubles are not very stylish but im sure that they will be polished up.  plus i'd imagine it's hard to throw a grab into that front-front 7 without losing momentum.  as for aerials being the future...no. 
Jan 14 2008 2:20PM
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jhackbeez
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probably cuz its a really ugly spin.
Jan 14 2008 2:44PM
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ThaLorax
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I heard he wrecked himself at keystone this weekend.
Jan 14 2008 2:46PM
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TWoods
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that was ugly.
Jan 14 2008 3:12PM
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skiRay
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off topic, but the whole first page of this tread, was a hugle hyperlink... everyones typing somehow turned into a link
Jan 14 2008 3:23PM
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Journey
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his double fronts and frontflip to front flip with a spin looks really forced like hes trying really hard not to fall or something. but other than that its stil lrediculously gay and hes a huge fag.
Jan 14 2008 3:27PM
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skimack
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I can't speak for you haters, but personally I can't do any of that so I have a ton of respect.  They may not have grabs and the style may still be in its infancy, but you guys seem to forget that the first threesixty in the park was probably super whack looking too, style takes time and practice until something is possible to be made to look effortless.  Don't be afraid of change because it's the lifeblood of this pastime that we all enjoy.
Jan 14 2008 3:36PM
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Alex_thedroog
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I hate to jump on the band wagon here, but some of those were seriously the ugliest tricks I have ever seen.
Jan 14 2008 3:47PM
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.Capn.
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Most of you will prbly not read this bcuz its too long but try to cuz I think im close as to y their doing this.

Im pretty sure they are doing this to draw more attention and therefore money to the sport. Because all peaople who take part in freeskiing no that a sw 540 flatspin mute is harder and cooler llooking than what ever these tricks are. But come x games time when we r the minority watching the sport and average joes are the majority they wanna c ppl go upside down bcuz its cooler in their eyes and if they like it once chances r they will watch it again and it will make the sport popular. but im not worried yet I think there r still plenty of guys throwing our tricks.

And example of this would b a couple years ago when rory threw the sw double backie. If he woulda landed he woulda won even tho it was clearly less cool to us then gagniers run. (I believe it was him that won not sure tho)
Jan 14 2008 4:03PM
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Chucktheweasel
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I think it's sick. It doesn't look too clean but it is something that has never been done before. If he just maybe slowed the spin down to a five or something, he could probably put a shit load of style into it.
Jan 14 2008 4:04PM
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ThaLorax
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all of you are idiots.  how can you hate on this? most of you have absolutely no change of ever being able to do these. who cares if it "looks ugly", it's hard as shit to do. You can have the right to hate when you post a vid of you doing it yourself.
Jan 14 2008 4:50PM
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skier24
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word..

simon has his own style and if he wants to ski like that he can ski like that...it doesnt all have to be about grabs and all that other shit...you have to remember how freeskiing started out and incorporate that into the new age of freeskiing, which in my opinion is what he is kind of doing. dumont is one of the best all around skiers there is and all everyone wants to do is hate on him...its rediculous
Jan 14 2008 4:51PM
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Gharf
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ok transfering from my thread to here as asked the mod

you ve got to be kidding. you can t hate on simon style. he has way more style than any of you.
a few years ago you were hatin on him because his pipe stuff was not that technical it was "just" height.
he can throw the sickest misty 7 out here. with a fucking crazy grab.
he does a cork 5 first hit at the x game pipe. not a hucked 10.

and just because he is training and doesnt grab his trick doesnt mean he is taking skiing into a wrong direction.

i d like to see your first 7 of your first 3 ever. i bet it was pencil style with no steeze.. and no one kicked you out of the park for taking mogul skiing into freestyle.  cause it s how you learn a trick. you stomp the trick. then you add the style.

just stop the fucking hate.
anyway you ll never be able to do those tricks. simon is a fucking good gymnast.

he is not telling you to do this trick. he will not be watching oyu and insulting you if you do a sw 5 monkey style.

when you ride you ll still be able to throw all the tricks you like. even if the pros do other tricks. may be it is time you stop trendwhoring / copying / hating and just ski the way you like to.

FREESTYLE skiing. just do what you want.


chill out guys and stop the hate.
simon is killing it like many others.
just enjoy. and if you dont liek it no one forces you to watch and hate. time to grow up.

Jan 14 2008 4:53PM
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splooshie
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twas pretty cool

stop the hatin
Jan 14 2008 4:57PM
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720skiguy
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hand drags were sick
Jan 14 2008 5:01PM
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MayorWest
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Gharf is right man,
to much hate on the thread!
chill out
the dude simply redic
if ur gunna rag on him dont rag on his practice runs,
wait till he throws it down 4real in the xgames
let em be hes just havin a good time and i my mind thats kinda the point of skiing
jib it, rip it, shred it, stomp i, its whatever bro
Jan 14 2008 5:08PM
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panojibber
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If people aren't allowed to do stuff that looks ugly at first then our sport wouldn't exist. Skiing in itself would not exist. Give it a few months and his front-misty 7 will be amazingly stylish and clean. Besides, the guy was nice enough to show you his new trick when it was still just being done its first few times. Give him some credit for that at least. You guys hating on him is like if you stomped your first 9 and showed it to your friends and they told you you were gay because it was ugly. Besides, Simon has his own style, along with alot of other guys out there. If you can't recognize that then you shouldn't be criticizing.
Jan 14 2008 5:59PM
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Line0777
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Dumont is pretty dang close to god
Jan 14 2008 6:03PM
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drwclrk
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that was sick. i had to watch it twice. but a couple of points:

-what ever colby did at the end there was dope.
-the front misty seven was a lil strange. kewl, because i cant do it, but looked more like an accident than anything else. everything else was smooth as buttah.
-and if simon is wearing a new oakley jacket its dope. (or probably empire, idk)
-if this is practice, then xgames is going to be baller.
Jan 14 2008 6:11PM
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drwclrk
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and word^
Jan 14 2008 6:13PM
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.makuma.
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i thought it was wicked good...and i understand what everybody is saying about his double fronts, but honestly, hes prob just screwing around and having fun, hes clearly not trying to improve on it
Jan 14 2008 6:27PM
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EL_FINRE
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the front misty 7 would look sick if he were'nt squirming so much, still props for doing it
Jan 14 2008 6:30PM
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bigwhite.steeze
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Quite easily.
It's not pushing the limits on ski's. It has been done bigger and with the same style on aerial jump's for over 20 years.
Comparing basketball and golf to skiing is both irrelevant and completely different.

Jan 14 2008 7:51PM
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Karcher
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i thought it was one of the sickest videos ive seen in a while
Jan 14 2008 7:53PM
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funk.
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i think its ridiculous how no one can spell ridiculous.
Jan 14 2008 8:02PM
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doGelyst
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im almost more in awe of how sick keys park is.
Jan 14 2008 8:16PM
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popNfresh44
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it did look quite pencil and aerialistic but w/e its not like u see a lot of those every day
Jan 14 2008 8:21PM
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XtRemE11
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yeah im sure aerials are hard as shit to do, but this isnt aerials, something being hard doesnt suddenly mean its cool, it had no style and for an aerial trick it sucked balls compared to other people, so really it sucks for freeSTYLE and aerials.
its fine if people are just doing what they want, but it doesnt mean im gonna like it and since simon is a extrmely cocky and my least favorite pro, i dont feel bad at all hating on it.. and it really annoys me cause he is one of the top pro's and if he is taking this shit seriously its pushing the sport in the totally wrong direction.
Jan 14 2008 9:47PM
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ThaLorax
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ummm, no.


although you're entitled to your opinion, just like everyone else said, of course it's ugly, he's still honing it so he can make it look "pretty" just for you and the rest of the hateful newschoolers that supports his career.  Personally, I think it is cool, I think it is hard, and I actually didn't think it was that ugly at all considering the technicality of front flipping regular, then starting to spin three quarters of the way through your flip.  Also, since when does being a goofy person make them extremely cocky?
Jan 15 2008 12:07AM
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ScrappyJoeYoung
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yea that double backflip thing is sooo lame, why d oes he do that, it looks like aerials
Jan 15 2008 12:17AM
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ThaLorax
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Actually, I changed my mind.  I think I'm jump on the bandwagon and hate on Simon for having fun and being good at what he's payed to do all at the same time. Fuck him and ugly innovative tricks.
Jan 15 2008 12:20AM
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thefilmerguy
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wow this thread took off...

i think the sport needs to be pushed into natural features and backcountry like what lolo is doing. best idea out there for the sport right now imo
Jan 15 2008 12:23AM
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RosarioAK
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yo.. movie was sickkkkk. to all the people who hated on simon.. what do you guys throw off bumps.. cause it sure as hell isnt cork 3 hand-drags or whatever you wanna call those. and i dont get why everyone is hating on the aerial shit...the guy has done everything else.. hes just pushing the sport further.. obviously if you've seen him ski you know hes got style (remember his cork 5 froggy trucks anyone??? so dont hate cause you cant ski.
Jan 15 2008 12:52AM
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___ASP___
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hes taking the sport in the completely wrong direction, watch him from a few years ago, simon was sick, now hes a lame ass bitch with no style, he needs to change things around
Jan 15 2008 1:29AM
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funk.
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meh... is what i have to say to that.
Jan 15 2008 1:44AM
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LivinOuttaBounZ
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I cant believe all the negativity! If you truly think any of that was ugly, or "beginner like" then you should go kill yourself. That way other skiers don't have to be bothered with your comments of hate and jealously.
Jan 15 2008 3:13AM
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Gharf
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maybe you should show some respect for simon. who are you to call him a bitch ?
and if you read the entire thread you ll see that jossi has said that it was TRAINING. how can you hate on someone training ?
for sure they look hard but not very stylish but maybe when he has them good with a grab they ll look sick as hell.
"taking the sport into the wrong direction" is  such a lame sentence. Who are you to judge what is the good direction ? did simon pass a law where he would forbid every other trick than his front full ?

are you taking the sport in the wrong direction when you huck you first tricks ?
did your first 360 was a reverse true tail 360 ? nope. it was a pencil style lame 360 over a 3 foot jump. like every body else.

stop the hate.

Jan 15 2008 3:56AM
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mtdg311
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It kills me how NS has become the dictionary for what's "cool" or not, and "if it ain't cool, it ain't progressive"... Something new = progression no matter what it is... just because one specific trick isn't "cool looking" doesn't mean better stuff can't spawn as a result, or for that matter doesn't mean the same trick can't improve over time.   Why do so many people on here hate new stuff?  Why is there so much hate against something that you supposedly love to do?
Jan 15 2008 9:06AM
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pat-rickdaigle
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hand drags were dope, other then that GAY.  front flip misty 7s have been around or quite some time just watch some aerial vids..and he didn't grab.  double corks r great but dumonts double flips r shit.
Jan 15 2008 9:48AM
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Ryanvdonk
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too bad Andreas, Anders, and PK were all destroying it way harder. and Jon and Jacob doing doubles skiing (side by side, same tricks) was damn sick. oh, and Laurent Favre was going ginormous with some nasty grabs. but i cant deny it, Jossi is the man, though ive lost some respect for Simon.
Jan 15 2008 10:26AM
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SMOOTHOPR8TR
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i think its pushing the limits on skis. who cares if someone else in another discipline of skiing has done it before. and i wasnt nesacarily speaking directly of the trick. i was speaking of the individual. this guy has pushed the sport. if you had an ounce of the same skill you wouldnt be tearing it apart. my guess is if you went out and nailed that on a large table you and your crew would be stoked. i would have a hard time believing you would trash it then. comparing sports to other sprts is not irrelevant. the analogy was about athletes taking thier sports to the next level whether it be froma  financial standpoint or from an execution standpoint. there were and still are plenty of haters for people like tiger woods. thats the way it is when your at the pinnacle of your sport, there are always going to be critics and haters that try and dimish the things you are able to do and will do in the future. skiing is about a brotherhood of people who love to slide dwon hill on 2 sticks. for those of you who cant appreciate another brother doing what he loves, not matter how he does it, id say that is the kind of people we dont need in the brotherhood.
Jan 15 2008 10:55AM
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fatbastard
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God, you haters are unbelievable.  He didn't grab!  He was pencilled!  He's such a bitch for his lame-ass style!  Simon sucks!

What are these guys supposed to do?  Spend tens of thousands of dollars to build their own booters so they can practice up in private so when you finally see it it's dialed in to perfection with a grab all the way through?  It's seems like that's what you want.

Maybe you have a sick flatspin 5 japan now.  But show us a shot of your first flat 5 and let us all rip on it and call you gay, and then maybe you'll think twice before you lay into someone trying an entirely new trick as sick as a front to misty.  Give it time for crying out loud.  He may be on to something. 


Jan 15 2008 11:24AM
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AwR
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that was sick.

That double front 3 is sweet, im just confused how he takes off.  When doing double fronts he takes off and one ski is way in front of the other as if its spring loaded.
Jan 15 2008 12:29PM
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Tmcchesney
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That trick is fucking gay just like his double front. it used to be cool when it was a joke but now he does it seriously its so stupid. There is no way you could ever do a grab with it either it wouldnt work
Jan 15 2008 12:52PM
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