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one thing he has done good, noboyd answers this question i have asked for almost a YEAR! How is he a good president? At least we who bash him have facts to support our opinions, not just 'he is a great pres'

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exactly, everyone always says 'tax refunds, yes!' but that was tha worst thing ever.

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why was it bad?
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yea i love that:

you ask, why was it bad? and he can't answer.

don't comment on the tax cuts unless you have a decent understanding of economic theory.

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Oct 18 2003 8:52AM

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Tax cuts are bad because they decimate economies during free trade. If you have protectionism, than tax cuts are a reliable way to get profit, because citizens would have more money to spend, and in a protective state, almost all of it would go back to the government. However, in an allready heavily debted country, allready producing massive defecits, you are giving tax cuts? Not just tax cuts but MASSIVE tax cuts, that contribute to 91 fucking percent of the national defecit. Your defecit gets higher, and you start to lose your trade credibility, and overall credibility, and because of that, your currency will also begin to fall. Not to mention, after the tax cuts we are paying 140 billion $ to iraq, which was taken from our schools, welfare systems, social security, veterans pay, and even the military(kevlar vests anyone?) Do you have money to pay for a private school so you can get a good education?
Economics, first rule, supply and demand. Taxation works on a similar but more complicated field as that. We shouldnt have 100% free trade, nor should we have massive protectionism, there should be a balance, as well as we shouldnt pay almost no taxes, and we shouldnt pay a lot of taxes, its all a balance, and instead of doing the math, and finding this out, bush goes WAY too hard in one direction.

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Oct 18 2003 10:41AM

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not to mention, the tax cuts mostly benefited the richest 20% of US citizens, the ones who have enough money. What this does is creates a larger gap between richer and poorer, and tries to eliminate a middle class. Capurnicus and some other rich people are gonna say that 'its not far, we pay more taxes because we are rich' You drive a fucking ferarri man! You can afford this! Some other poor veteran who was drafted to fiht in vietnam, and couldnt get a job later, thats an amputee doesnt get the money he deserves for serving his country, just so you can buy another expensive car or a bigger house. Its not fair that you have this money to begin with, while other people who work on minimum wage, have to pay off there student loan can barely put a roof over there heads. Consider yourself DAMN lucky to be in a position where you have a fuckin computer, and right this shit whereas some1 else is starving to death IN THE SAME COUNTRY

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Oct 18 2003 10:47AM

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first of all the tax cuts benefit the richer becues they are the ones that pay the most taxes in the first place...it goes by income...he is a good present compared to a lot that we have had in the past...and the view on tax cuts goes by whether a person in conservative or libral...a libral would not want tax cuts because they want a bigger gov that has more control...a conservative would because they dont want bigger gov...conservatives are pro buisiness and librals are trying to take big business away

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tax cuts also went to families(poor and rich) with children.
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SU (and others) do you guys know about the School of the Americas? do you know that it traines people in how to commit terrorist like acts?

here is some info

The School of the Americas (renamed the “Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation” in 2001) is officially described as a combat training school for Latin American soldiers. In reality, it is a notorious terrorist training camp run by the U.S. Army. The SOA trains military personnel from Latin American countries in techniques that they then use to persecute, torture and terrorize the people of their respective countries. Scores of SOA graduates have been responsible for atrocities committed against civilians in several Latin American countries.

Fr. Roy Bourgeois founded the School of the Americas Watch (SOAW) in 1990. Fr. Roy, a Maryknoll priest, served communities in several Latin American countries and learned that the military personnel who were terrorizing and killing the citizens of the countries he was in (or those who spoke out on their behalf) were more often than not SOA graduates. After the execution of six Jesuit priests, their housekeeper and her teenage daughter in El Salvador in 1989 by SOA graduates, Fr. Roy came back to the U.S. to learn more about the SOA and to find a way to shut it down. He founded the School of the Americas Watch.

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FUCK BUSH HE CAN EAT MY SHIT

Oct 18 2003 12:19PM

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i wish gore was elected, nto bush

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Oct 18 2003 4:54PM

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never_summer, learn how to spell, its not that difficult. I never said that the poorer didnt get tax cuts, because they did, but by far the richer had much bigger tax cuts.
Liberals want business to go away? OK, ure either joking or a dumbass. You are not seeing the big picture with medicare. I just read about this, but a lot of companies offer medicare to there employees, if we have universal healthcare, than businesses wouldnt have to provide millions to pay for it, therefore it would attract more business. 'Librals' may be bad for business, since this is my first time seeing that word, but liberals are not. Conservatives are also more lenient on corporate crime, such as fraud and insider information. Look at these statistics, there has been more fraud committed by the bushes, and reagan than any other 10 presidents. hmm, a coincidence, i think not. and than there is the monopoly angle.

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Oct 18 2003 5:21PM

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everyone can battle back and forth. Petek someone posted a big list of good things bush has done on the 2nd page maybe? It was bookitty i think.

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Oct 18 2003 5:45PM

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SO WHAT, HE MADE A DESCISION THAT NOT EVERYONE LIKES. ALOT OF PEOPLE AGREE WITH HIM, AND HE COULDNT HAVE GONE TO WAR UNLESS THE CONGRESS SUPPORTED HIM (which, obviosly then, they did) BUT HAVING EVERYONE WHINE AND BITCH ABOUT IT ISNT GOING TO MAKE HIM NOT BE PRESIDENT SO EVERYONE STFU
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Oct 18 2003 10:11PM

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bush sucks? ive heard he swallows too.

Is that a fucking dress youre wearing?

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Oct 18 2003 10:25PM

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i thought this was gonne be like the 'bush or no bush' thread

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Oct 18 2003 10:49PM

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Being from Australia i'm not gonna comment on Bush's domestic policy but I would just like someone to explain to me how antagonising the worlds Muslims is going to make us safer from Islamic terrorism? Do you think all the people who lost family from US bombing in Afghanistan and Iraq are going to say 'oh, my whole family was killed and my coutry is in chaos but i'm liberated!! woo-hoo! thanks guys' I don't think so somehow. I wouldn't say that.

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Oct 19 2003 1:19AM

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petek think about what you just said for a moment...'by far the rich got much bigger tax refunds' or something to that effect...it has already been explained that they pay more taxes therefore they recieve more back...don't use that weak arguement anymore...it is worthless and makes you look dumber. does it need to be explained any further?

if everyone get's 10% of their taxes back, then someone who pays $100,000 in taxes is obviously going to get more back than someone who pays 10,000

make sense?

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Oct 19 2003 1:20AM

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heres one for you, seems that the bush administration is quite good at misleading the american public.

In a series of polls from May through September, the researchers discovered that large minorities of Americans entertained some highly fanciful beliefs about the facts of the Iraqi war. Fully 48 percent of Americans believed that the United States had uncovered evidence demonstrating a close working relationship between Saddam Hussein and al Qaeda. Another 22 percent thought that we had found the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. And 25 percent said that most people in other countries had backed the U.S. war against Saddam Hussein. Sixty percent of all respondents entertained at least one of these bits of dubious knowledge; 8 percent believed all three.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A27061-2003Oct14.html

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Oct 19 2003 1:24AM

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large minorites? what exactly is that supposed to mean...like black or hispanics? first off, all that shows is that not enough of the american public is informed...I watch the news and know none of those are true....so that statistic can be read however you want

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Oct 19 2003 1:31AM

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you don't know what is meant by large minorities? 45% of people polled is a large minority. it has nothing to do with ethnicity

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Yay, SUpilot is back, what happened to you, you shifty bastard you!?

Anyway to the matter at hand, Bush, Clinton and Gore are all as bad as each other, all you people saying that Clinton was so much better than Bush are as fucken ignorant as the person saying Bush Rules!

Gore wouldnt do shit either, democrats are too pussy, to be blunt(i wanna smoke one), they let themselves get pushed round by the right and the corporations controlling the republicans and themselves. But in saying that if the democrats listened to the people more, which there may be a slight chance, more than the republicans, then there may be some change in culture, until that day i stand obscured by stupidity of the masses.

Basically USA and the world are fucked with only two forms of major government. Too many dumb people base their opinions on what they are told not what they find out themselves, therefore end up voting evil republican or sugar coated evil democrat.

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Oct 19 2003 4:28AM

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'If I were the president, I could stop terrorist attacks against the United States in a few days. Permanently. I would first apologize to all the widows and orphans, the tortured and impoverished, and all the many millions of other victims of American imperialism. Then I would announce, in all sincerity, to every corner of the world, that America's global interventions have come to an end, and inform Israel that it is no longer the 51st state of the USA but now -- oddly enough -- a foreign country. I would then reduce the military budget by at least 90% and use the savings to pay reparations to the victims. There would be more than enough money. One year's military budget of 330 billion dollars is equal to more than $18,000 an hour for every hour since Jesus Christ was born. That's what I'd do on my first three days in the White House. On the fourth day, I'd be assassinated.'

-William Blum

He got into office by his dads connections, his uncle is a high supreme judge, and a rigged florida ballot.

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Oct 19 2003 4:42AM

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FUCK AMERICAS FOREIGN POLICY!!!

FUCKEN fuck.

manipulated by the system you dumb fucks cant you see the red drippping from your hands????? FUCKEN CHANGE SOMETHING YOU GREEDY PIECES OF FUCKEN FUCKED SHIT FUCK.TIME FOR A REVOLUTION AMERICA FUCKEN CHANGE IT YOU PIECES OF SHIT!show you care.

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Oct 19 2003 4:48AM

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shit, cool it lagwagon!! first you post something about being nice to everyone and lowering defence budgets and such, (a lot of which points i agree with by the way) and then go on to post such an antagonistic, vulgar and just stupid post. You should learn that the way to get people to change their views is not by telling them that they are 'fucking stupid', it is through intelligent debate.

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Oct 19 2003 6:19AM

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It would take me hours to correct all of the ignorant , misinformed, sheep-like, statements and comments that have been made in this thread.....why bother posting the propaganda that you've heard over+over+over again onTV or have seen in the morning paper....it,s BS. Inform yourself.........otherwise your brainwashed...the government,TPB,big media, they treat the general public like mushrooms.....they keep you in the dark and feed you shit.... the US is in trouble.

Oct 19 2003 9:30AM

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'When people only talk about things they understand then a great silence will descend upon the world.' - Chinese Proverb

flexman makes some good points, and going off of what he just said. You can't believe what you've been told. So, I encourage you guys to not settle for someone else's opinions. Learn the facts and formulate your own, and there's always two sides to every story.

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Oct 19 2003 4:06PM

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yeah what he said, and the side that I'm always arguing is the side that is always right...j/k

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Oct 19 2003 4:15PM

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my god james, i know the rich get taxed more you moron. I never said they didnt, sigh. What kind of a debater are you? Just because i dont say it, doesnt mean i dont know it. The rich should get taxed more, simply because they are more well off than the rest of the friggn world. in fact i believe i did say that, so why dont you actually read shit before you talk shit. selective reading is a sign of being affect by propaganda.

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Oct 19 2003 4:26PM

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and another thing james, why dont you just TRY and argue economics with me, please i would love to fuck you up on yet another subject.
seriously man, if you think i'm such a dumbass than why dont you argue with the history i have provided, and the economic reasoning i provided instead of just picking out one sentence, not reading anything else, and just making up an argument against that one sentence.

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Oct 19 2003 4:31PM

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'never_summer, learn how to spell, its not that difficult. I never said that the poorer didnt get tax cuts, because they did, but by far the richer had much bigger tax cuts. '

that's what you said...I look at that and formulated my response...and as for economics I know my way around them too, had to take two courses for my core. But I made that statement in a civilized manner, I suggest you do the same. I'm still unaware of how I upset you so.

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Oct 19 2003 4:44PM

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getting blown = impeachment

blowing up an entire country for no apparant reason = nothing

why yes, it all makes perfect sense.

Oct 19 2003 6:09PM

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EVERYONE VOTE NADER!! YYYAAYYYYYYY!!! trees!!!! yayy!!!!! so can anyone explain to me why those crazy assholes in DC decided to shoot up Home Depots and not the White House?
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Oct 19 2003 8:30PM

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dude, look, bush is still sucking hard

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who wants to start the NS coalition for Ralph Nader with me?
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Oct 24 2003 6:02PM

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slickjameski, or whatever the fuck ure name is: are you gonna say that the rich got LESS money back than poorer people? Because THAN thats the only way you can 'formulate a response' that has any relevance to mine. Read, read, and than read between the lines. Usually if you take one sentence from a paragraph and try to decipher it, chances are its not gonna make as much sense, because the other sentences are references. sometimes these sentences are not strung together, not my problem, i am not the one attacking my own speech am i?

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Oct 24 2003 9:14PM

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it's actually slick james JIK...JIK is a little word that has a lost meaning

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