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Scratch vs spk

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jibmaster_josh
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which boot would better suit me?
i ride basically 99.9% park 0.01%other.
they are both basically the same price, or they were last time i checked.
i hear that the spk is the perfect park boot, but i also hear good things about the scratch boots.
help?
Jun 20 2007 3:10PM
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bemmis
Posts: 1602 - Karma: -3
since .1% is equivalent to less than a run of other all year. you should probably base your judgements on 100% park riding.

get the boot that fit best, but based purely on the quality and components and everything, i'd say spk.
Jun 20 2007 3:15PM
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jp_draves
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maybe buy niether and buy something that fits properly.
Jun 20 2007 4:09PM
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MarkieR
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use soap shoes.
Jun 20 2007 4:15PM
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ThePoopSock
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i have the scratch boots and really like them but i dont know about the spk
Jun 20 2007 4:38PM
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WeK
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i love my rampages BECAUSE they fit
Jun 20 2007 4:51PM
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quixotic
Posts: 6937 - Karma: 2,978
I don't even have a park specific boot because I got what fit me best. It's like a high quality all around Salomon boot. Get what fits, not what looks the best.
Jun 20 2007 5:05PM
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hawaiiansteeze
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yea i wanted the spk but the foil fit me much better so i chose that and im gratful for that i lovethem
Jun 20 2007 5:08PM
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wiglaf
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its just as important to get a boot that is specific to the type of skiing your going to be doing as it is to get a boot that fits.
some big mtn guy should get the spk b/c its the boot that fits him the best? no...
and some kids that spends all day in the park most likely doesnt need a high performance race boot that going to fuck his shins up even though it might be the best fit.

dont buy boots on what what fits the best, buy boots what what kind of flex and design features you want then buy what fits the best. you can make most boots fit with some work but you cant always change the flex or design.

Jun 20 2007 9:41PM
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bemmis
Posts: 1602 - Karma: -3
brace yourself, you're in for a severe pummeling. i think...
Jun 20 2007 9:50PM
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=nick=
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agreed.
Jun 20 2007 9:52PM
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Steezy_Street
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I dont have a park boot. i got Tecnica diablo flames and there real comfy, fit well and work great. im happy. get what fits.
Jun 20 2007 10:02PM
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wiglaf
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i think if your in the right neck of the woods you can make the boot fit. i would rather get a boot that has features like gel in the heels, padding in the shins that help protect me from injury and constant pain. i mean think about it if your skiing park all day would this be more important then getting the prefect boot fit? like i said if your in the right neck of the woods sizing wise you can make some adjustments and you got a perfect fiting boot and also something thats helps you ski the way you want.
Jun 20 2007 10:09PM
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bemmis
Posts: 1602 - Karma: -3
yeah, i agree with you on the whole boot thing, i just expected people to freak out after you said that because people are so viscious about getting the right fit, even if you have to eat a baby alive to get it.
Jun 21 2007 12:57AM
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bobs
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jea some kids are rediculous about boots. Its not a good question to ask which of two similar boots are better.  Buy the similar one that fits best, but asking what are good boots for different % of riding is a legit question
Jun 21 2007 1:54AM
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LC.
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You are completely wrong. Gel and padding are complete gimmiks. Fit is the only important thing, and everything else can be adjusted.
Jun 21 2007 4:34AM
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KravtZ
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ehh i kinda disagree...i ride the rampagaes everywere i go and even though they are a park boot they are the best boot i have ever had...watever fits u best
Jun 21 2007 8:49AM
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wiglaf
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flex is not important? thats like saying the flex on your ski isnt important.
you can make a softer boot stiffer? pretty sure you cant.

as for the gel, go ask all the kids that have cracked or bruised their heels in boots that have a hard foot board.
I used a boot with a gel foot board for like 3 years then moved to one with a hard footboard for only like 2 months and it was pretty obvious there was a difference.. seeing as how anytime i cased even little jumps would hurt, then i ended up bursing my heel for like 3 months. last season i was back with a gel foot board and had no problems.
Jun 21 2007 9:36AM
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LC.
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You don't know what you're talking about. Just stop, please.

Flex can be adjusted, always. As long as you're vaguely there, it's fine.

As for "shock absorbing bootboards", these are nothign but a gimmik. I ground out the shock absorbing parts from my old Lange FR's and hard 60ft 180s didn't phase me at all. If you get a good footbed made, the natural shock absorbers in your heel do their work properly and there is absolutely no need to add any other padding.
Jun 21 2007 12:59PM
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hemlockjibber8
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fetus, i'm not going to rag on you because you are obviously just uneducated.

if a boot fits properly, it will not hurt you. obviously if you are in a race plug, it might start to wear at your shins. most good park skiers tend to use high performance fitting boots anyways. look at anyone not on salomon. they most likely use the one off race boots becasue they are strong skiers. you still need to control your skis in the park.

as for freeride features. you can find tons of high performance boots with padded tongues and soft boot board. any boto that does not have a leather race liner has a padded tongue. if it is too padded, you can't get a good wrap on your shin and you will casuse problems anyways.

you can make soft boot boards, or replace hard boot boards no problem. these do make a difference. however, the majority of boots (esp. freeride ones) come with a rubber boots board.

as for flex of a boot. dont even worry about that when you buy a boot. you can almost make any boot on the market have any flex you want. just make sure that the flex is right for you. "soft" is not the right answer for park, "correct" is.
Jun 21 2007 1:20PM
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quixotic
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okay... you took it the wrong way.

I have an all around boot. its meant for freeskiing, big mountain, racing, whatever you want. its a recreational one.

And I don't spend all my time in the park..

I race so I need a stiffer boot for that, but also one with some flex for the park.

I picked the best possible boot for my type of skiing, stop the hate.
Jun 21 2007 1:59PM
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404404
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Fetus needs to die for saying that shit
Jun 21 2007 3:50PM
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.SteezusChrist.
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word
Jun 21 2007 4:36PM
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