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AMs doing as good or better tricks than pros....

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mattwalker
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i have noticed that a lot of ams, or non pros, doing better stuff than the pros...or just as sick. For instance, i skied with Brent Abrams at High North, he was going as high or higher than Tanner outta the quarter pipes and doing 9s just as sick...Yes, hes sponsored, but know one cares who he is. No one knows who he is even tho he can do the same stuff Tanner can. Or another example.

There was a guy, who we just call Frenchie, and at the end of the season (everyone knows the HUGE gap to flat, gap to down that Crighton hits and gaps the bottom in the Ready Fire Aim trailer) he 450ed to the down, he didnt even hit the flat...it was incredible...probably be in a movie or two next year. NO PRO EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT IT and he did it.... why arent these people getting noticed? that kinda sucks...



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Jul 18 2003 11:47PM
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mattwalker
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this other kid i was just talking to made another good point...LIam Downey...he is soooo sick i hear, but only east kids really know him. That sucks because he is really stylie



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Jul 18 2003 11:52PM
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UpDawg
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theres no doubt that alot of these kids are incredible skiers, but they usually lack consistency. sure they may have a day where they can pull off this really sick stuff, but then maybe they get to a competition and just cant come up with what it takes to win. people like tanner are more consistent though, and although they might not be throwing down the same stuff as the other kids, they are usually more consistent.
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scratch3
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if u look on the vids page u will see liam being nasty in everone he has...he seems pretty consistant...evrytime i see him hes ill
Jul 19 2003 12:05AM
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mattwalker
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^ excellent point. But still why arent they in the filming scene. They probably dont have the consistency to win the X games or something, but they could be stars if they stuck a 450 on, 450 off on a gap-to-flat-to-gap-to-down with a sex change in the middle gap...stick it once and that is all you would need



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Jul 19 2003 12:05AM
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because the pros are already pros. they dont have anything to prove.

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Jul 19 2003 12:07AM
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mattwalker
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if a pro all of a sudden sucks, he wont be pro for long



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Jul 19 2003 12:08AM
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quebecfreestyler
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you cant be pro just because you can bust a couple of hella dope tricks, you have to be pretty cnsistant and be polyvalent..

Brent and FRenchie seem like sick skiers and liam is off the hook they will get recognition at one point for sure.

for brent going as huge as tanner, well that's far from being true, tanner was boosting a good3 feet higher and traveling from the center of the q-p to the extrem left of it doing super smooth 9 grabbed the hole way... yea he was going focking huge (not dissing on brent or anything.. just putting the facts)


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Jul 19 2003 12:19AM
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jtski
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if liam or brent keep at their game, they will both get big. liams well on his way
Jul 19 2003 12:20AM
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mattwalker
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okay...i am just saying they should be in some movies, because they are good, i am not saying they should be as good as Tanner and Jon at everthing. And i was there...on the deck Brent was going as big as Tanner, and doing the same trick, maybe not as long of a grab...but you cant do that...



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Jul 19 2003 12:28AM
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Ricker1
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I can see your point. I ski around Tahoe and there is a guy up here who busts DSpin 1260's like its nothing, but only has some small sponsorships I think. I would agree that it has to do with competitions and getting your name in ski industry eye.
Jul 19 2003 12:55AM
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mattwalker
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that could be Brent Abrams...he skis outta tahoe...



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Jul 19 2003 12:57AM
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Jul 19 2003 1:10AM
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quebecfreestyler
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yea man, brent seemed like mad skier...




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Jul 19 2003 1:59AM
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dr.awkward
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i think most of these sick ams are one hit wonders, and until they broaden their skills, then they will be pro. For example, dash longe can't spin over 540, but he is in a higher position then that guy you mentioned who can pop d12's like nothin, i think it is because dash can do everythig 540 and under
Jul 19 2003 2:29AM
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quebecfreestyler
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no dash lone is pro cause he got thwe dancing moves.. come on, half of his segmetns are dancing moves... i like dancing moves tooo... i dance all the time when i chill... yea, im out..


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Jul 19 2003 2:32AM
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NoTeefa
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no its' cause dash is one sick stylie mutthafucka
and ya he can dance


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Jul 19 2003 2:48AM
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Ghost
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that 'Dash can only spin 540's' is old stuff.
I'm pretty sure he is busting bigger spins these days.


There is alot that goes into a pro rider, it's not all about who can do the biggest trick.
Sure, it helps, but it's not the whole enchilada.

For one, marketability. Companies want a poster boy who can represent them, so image does play a role.

Your attitude on and off the slopes.
Your connections. Knowing the right people.
Consistancy
Competition standings.
And sometimes it's all about just being in the right place at the right time.

Maybe Frenchie and the other guy's 5 minutes of fame will come.

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Jul 19 2003 4:27AM
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aclsarescary
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Was 'frenchie' rocking all oakley gear?
Jul 19 2003 4:41AM
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aclsarescary
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Was 'frenchie' rocking all oakley gear?
Jul 19 2003 4:41AM
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Vtsnowski
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I saw some kid at the river one day, he was pulling every thing and all of it was so slow and huge. He was better then some pros i have seen.




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Jul 19 2003 8:24AM
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weazelzb
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uhhh just cause u can huck a trick that tanner does doesnt mean u are consistent and/or stylie. not to diss on those skiiers i saw them from my camp they were sick though

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Jul 19 2003 8:26AM
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Ahmets_Brother
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laim is so damn consistant. he is a pipe master. i bet that he could have won global x

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Jul 19 2003 9:43AM
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Shane_McWannabe
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The ones who are that good will be pro's over time, It just takes a while to get the connections and the recognition. If your as good or better than the pro's than you will be a pro if you work at it.
Jul 19 2003 10:19AM
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dooner
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dash long can spin over 540, he just chooses not to.
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Jul 19 2003 10:40AM
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bret
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i read somewhere on this site that liam got picked up for DNA's pro team. does that make him a pro?


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Jul 19 2003 12:09PM
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Ricker1
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I think a big part of it too for someone like Liam is that I never heard of him at any competitions besides East Coast events. If you look at a lot of the big names they are traveling international a couple of times a season. Although, this could be expensive if you do not have a sponsor to pick up your travel tabs.
Jul 19 2003 12:29PM
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tan
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pros are already pro, ams have to bust their ass and go crazy to get there


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Jul 19 2003 12:29PM
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AndrewWoods
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Liam was just added to the Dynastar and DNA teams. He will make it out to the big comps next year, and he will kill it.
Jul 19 2003 1:03PM
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naw dash just wants to perfect his spins. he wants to be able to do them natural, unnatural, switch, and switch unnatural. He can do sevens now all or em, and can do three or four of the nines. That is fuckin awesome.
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Jul 19 2003 1:31PM
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mattwalker
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yes, Frenchie rocks almost all oakley gear, but i dont think he is sponsored by them...he could be though... he always skis with jr. Martinez and junior has Oakley as a sponsor, so he might of put in a good word with Oakley for Frenchie



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Jul 19 2003 2:06PM
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yeah but that brent kid is a fag because he told on some kids at high north for smoking and they got sent home
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Jul 19 2003 2:29PM
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i think ricker was talking about bart singleton before...hes got a small sponsorship with rossignol
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Jul 19 2003 3:20PM
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no, Frenchie doesn't ride for Oakley, and two, he didn't 450 to the down of that gap rail, he could barely get the gap to rail, with no spin. I know Frenchie is off the hook, but he definetly didn't do that.
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Jul 19 2003 3:40PM
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Ya liam got picked up by DNA for their pro team, finished up some photo shoot with Chricton in company a few weeks ago. I'm not positive if he is on the dyna pro team yet but he is definately hooked up with them fo sho. He also signed with a canadian based clothing company (correct me if I'm wrong someone), I forget what they are called but they have some sick stuff. There were a few other team riders including JP Auc. I'm pretty positive big lee is hitting up the x-games next year, maybe us open? Also he killed it at superpark this year. If your lookin for movies of him go here...
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Jul 19 2003 5:18PM
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Jul 19 2003 5:18PM
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sherLocke
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isnt anthony boronowski and AM rider? it says on the armada website he is. he had a full segment in happy days it it kicked ass too. why dont other AM riders get this exposure, im sure there are better ones then borownowski.
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Jul 19 2003 5:26PM
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joker
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yeah, word to what stephen said, i was there when frenchy was gapping to the down of that step-up rail gap, only once did he actually make it to the rail and he came off switch, but then bailed out when he was riding away. he never got it much cleaner than that because it was a silly huge gap to a tiny ass rail (in comparison to the size of the gap at least)

nobody ever said that there aren't kids as good as the 'pros' in the industry, it's just that they have bigger names than everyone else. it's like that in every aspect of life - music, movies, sports, etc etc... some people are superstars that everyone knows, others are not that are still just as good or maybe better, that's just the way it always has been and always will be


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Jul 19 2003 5:38PM
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C.Royce
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brent is so sick he's already getting paid to ski...its crazy thats hes still so good coming off a huge knee surgery
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Jul 19 2003 5:44PM
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a friend of mine in mammoth could do switch bio 10s off the biggest jump there, it was dope, but hes got no sponsorships except that he know a lot of pros so they give him free shit, his names benny ryerson
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Jul 19 2003 5:49PM
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C.Royce
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thats because every one at mammoth kicks ass
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Jul 19 2003 5:51PM
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this thread is long and gay.

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Jul 19 2003 8:52PM
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jibberkid69
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they aren't pro cause they can't sell themselves, they aren't ready to look at being a pro skier a a buisness, and not just how good you are



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Jul 19 2003 9:43PM
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C.Royce
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thats not true, brent does a real good job selling himself, but he's just 16
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Jul 19 2003 9:51PM
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CTripper
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maybe they don't want to be. i could be totally wrong here, but i'm sure there are sick skiers out there who just love to ski. like that guy griffin cummings, supposedly he is super sick but not many people have heard of him.
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Jul 19 2003 11:09PM
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smuggs
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the other reason these kids arent in alot of movies is because whos name would u rather see on the cover brent adams or whatever or tanner hall. just because someone does one thing that may resemble some pros is deffenately not a factor.

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as a kid i used to like to like riding in the car with my head out the window. i would do it all the time. until one day a car was coming. my head hit a dogs head, and my head knocked the dogs head off. now i dont lean out the window anymore.
Jul 19 2003 11:20PM
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Balmdogg
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tanner worked his way up by coming up with crazy new stuff for every one to learn, fakie to fakie cliff, switch 450-270 out etc.

once these guys give tanner something to learn they will be noticed and if they are that good why arent they competing and winning.






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Jul 19 2003 11:32PM
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Being a pro/sponsered isnt all about the tricks

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Jul 19 2003 11:44PM
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jibberkid69
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jt got his first movie part when he was 15, its not age, its connections,and i met brent at high north, he is rad



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Jul 20 2003 1:18AM
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plasticskier
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pro's are only sponsered because you kids think they are cool and will buy the stuff they ski end off

its not about being the best its about selling you shit
Jul 20 2003 9:39AM
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EaStCoaSt11
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just because your a sick skier doesnt mean your ganna be pro. you need to be marketable, companys want people on their team, that when other people look at them they want to buy all the gear they are riding. also for girls it sucks but you almost have to be pretty, check out the new freeskier when it comes out and tell me that one of those girls isnt cute...




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