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ECfreeski3
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hey to anybody who has done a lincoln:
are they harder than backflips (as a first invert) or easier, and why?
also, what were you finding was the hardest prt about learning them?


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Jul 17 2003 5:14PM
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CrazedSkier1080
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lincolns were my first invert but i had been doing them on my tramp and diving board for years. the best way to do them is pick a fixed object right infront of u that u can see while hitting the jump. like a lift pole, a spot on mountain across the valley or certain group of trees. then when u huck it drop ur shoulder and flip all together (everything at once, not shoulders hips then legs) stare at the thing u picked out the whole way through and i garuntee that u will come out straight and if u huck hard enough ull get all the way around

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Jul 17 2003 5:18PM
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Big_Willy
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I think they are harder because it is difficult to stay on the right axis. With backflips you dont have to worry about your axis and just the flip.



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Jul 17 2003 7:17PM
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ECfreeski3
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i've been doing them for a long time on diving boards and tramps, so what will the biggest/hardest difference between throwing them on skis or on the diving board?

and to willy 311 (or something), are you saying i might naturally go into a 180 without trying to, or...?


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Jul 17 2003 7:20PM
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NoTeefa
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lincolns are way harder to do than backflips, BUT the spills you will take trying lincolns will be way less painful than the spills you will take trying to do backflips


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Jul 17 2003 7:41PM
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CrazedSkier1080
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well i have yet to get a decent backflip, i always barely stick them i still love doing lincolns

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Jul 17 2003 7:49PM
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g-man
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I d say they are the same... backflip is a more natural rotation but you are kind blind for like the first quarter. Lincoln is a bit harder rotion but you can see your landing the entire time. Just pop off the inside foot of your flip and tilt your neck sideays and bring your feet around. Always look for your landing, it will come naturally. I find if you grab japan it tneds to really stabalize you and you wont be in a crouched postion...aka you will have style.
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Jul 17 2003 7:55PM
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ECfreeski3
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will i have to throw the rotation pretty hard to not stall and land on my side/head?
also, what are the most important things to concentrate on when i do it? (besides the thing where i keep my eye on something, that helped even on my tramp, thanks for that advice bro)


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Jul 17 2003 8:27PM
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just huck it
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Jul 18 2003 11:44AM
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five0
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how do u underflip..i never understood that..is it like a lincoln with a 180/
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Jul 18 2003 11:54AM
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Maximumsushi
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It's a lincon with a 180 in it so you end up doing the lincon in the uphill direction, but you land switch. It's sort of like a 90-lincon-90 but obviously in one motion.
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Jul 18 2003 12:24PM
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Jul 18 2003 12:25PM
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Ds91260
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go with what the first guy said, spot somthin, start ur rotation, keep lookin at it, and stay compact so that u dont stop rotating
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Jul 18 2003 12:28PM
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five0
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ok i get what ya mean with the 90-lincoln-90 thing
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Jul 18 2003 12:31PM
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ECfreeski3
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alright thanks for all the advice everyone, now it's just a matter of waiting months nd months to finally throw it....



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Jul 18 2003 1:08PM
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i am candide


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Jul 18 2003 2:05PM
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Ghost
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It was easier for me to spin with it.

May be easier for you.

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Jul 18 2003 6:54PM
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rossignolscratch
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i wanna try a lincoln next year too.
they dont scare me as much of a backflip.





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Jul 18 2003 8:50PM
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SkiLuigi1300
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mee too ... theres jus something about noe being able to see where youre going the first like quarter-rotation.

does anyone think a lui-kang lincoln loop would look cool?

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Jul 18 2003 10:13PM
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ECfreeski3
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ghost dragon- do you mean you sort of naturally went into a lincoln 180? cuz that's what i do sometimes on my diving board without even meaning to... do you think maybe i should just go with that nd try for the lincoln 180, since it sort of throws me that way anyway?

to skiluigi- yeah, lui kangs look pretty good with lincolns, but criticals look better with them, plus grabbing critical helps me throw the right rotation for a lincoln (at least on my diving board, and people have said it helps while skiing too)


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Jul 18 2003 10:40PM
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timber
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are lincolns hard to do on diving boards (like the regular ones that kids have in backyard pools)
Jul 18 2003 11:13PM
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ECfreeski3
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no they are very easy on diving boards. grabbing critical will make it even easier


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Jul 18 2003 11:32PM
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Phrosty
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some ppl call lincolns, sunshines.


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Jul 19 2003 1:12AM
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dirty_dreb
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i did lincons first. not as many consicenses
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Jul 19 2003 2:23AM
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quebecfreestyler
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lincoln are easier for sure...


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Jul 19 2003 2:35AM
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Ghost
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Lincolns aren't going to be the same as on a diving board or on a trampolean.

It is the same rotation, yes, but now you are going to have weights on your feet, your ankles are locked in place, you're moving way forward at a fast rate, and you have to create any pop/spring.

So just take this into consideration.
It is not that hard, you can do it. But it is not going to be exactly the same.

The first time I tried lincolns on skis I wasn't pulling it around fast enough. I'd get 3/4's of the way and then just crash.
So I tried spinning with it. adding a 180.
This helped me out because it allowed me to WHIP it around more - meaning I could throw it much faster, and since it was thrown on an angle I had clear vision for most of all of it, and this meant if I crashed it wouldn't be too bad - since I could see and if I crashed it would normally be on my side.

Adding a 180 into it worked for me,
It could work for you.
The only way to find out is by trying.

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Jul 19 2003 4:40AM
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marlin_102
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i can never get lincolns either on trampolines or on diving boards. i always spin a bit (even when i look at an object). its very annoying.


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Jul 19 2003 11:58AM
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easier.. backs are scary.
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Jul 19 2003 2:38PM
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ECfreeski3
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thanks for all the info ghostdragon, that will really help. and yeah, i'll also try spinning with it if i have the problem of not getting it around, also a good idea.


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Jul 19 2003 5:59PM
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