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Opinions on the FKS's

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ski_powpow
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Who has rid these bindings? i can get them for dirt cheap and wanted to know some opinions on them before i get them, aswell are they known for ripping out of certain skis?
Apr 27 2007 1:10AM
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freeski1620
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i ride them, i love them.
best heel ever on a binding.
the toe is a little downfall, but its worth the trade off.
its bombproof.

and yes, in soft skis i have herd of people having issues pulling the heel. ive never had the problem though.

whats super cheap?
Apr 27 2007 1:16AM
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ski_powpow
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did you find the toe piece to heavy or what?
Apr 27 2007 1:24AM
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Campeador
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which ones do you use? the 155?

I have the FKS 120 and I'll just say they are the best bindings I have ever used. I ride them with the DIN set at 9 and they've always worked flawlessly. The turntable heelpiece has saved my knees a few times, ejecting when its supposed to and holding strong when its not. The toe piece is also good since its safer than the one on the 155s and 185s, which is why I got them over the 155s.

If its true that next seasons won't have the turntable? I'm going to have to grab another pair of this seasons 120s

To the creator of this thread, if you get me some fks120s for cheap I'll buy them from you.
Apr 27 2007 1:31AM
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Ryanvdonk
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what's this good deal? and can i get in on it?
Apr 27 2007 1:33AM
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freeski1620
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the toe has no vertical release in the 155 and 185.
and i ride 155 and 185's
120's are an awesome binding!
Apr 27 2007 1:36AM
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ski_powpow
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^ im not purchasing them from a shop, im getting them used, aswell what was wrong with the 155 toepiece?
Apr 27 2007 1:36AM
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ski_powpow
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oh ok so know matter what you put your din on you can only release from the sides unless you really crank yourself.
Apr 27 2007 1:38AM
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freeski1620
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yeah, then you wont relese at all.
i love my 155's though, there amazing!
Apr 27 2007 1:48AM
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ski_powpow
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when you got them did they come with hardware that only fit into plates to go on race skis or did they come with normal screws?
Apr 27 2007 1:59AM
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Silence
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so whats the difference in the toepiece on the fks120 compared to the 155 and 185? does the 120 have vertical release?
Apr 27 2007 2:03AM
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ski_powpow
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^ no the 155 does not have vertical release
Apr 27 2007 2:06AM
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Swick825
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155 185 do not have vertical release, 120 does. 155 and 185 toe piece are made of strong metal, 120 toe piece is mostly plastic.
Apr 27 2007 2:15AM
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Low_Profile
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I ride p18's... when my new acl starts working
Apr 27 2007 2:19AM
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R.Fahey
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Of course they're heavy.... they're all metal. Weight on your feet don't matter at all though. The only bad weight is swing weight. I rock P18's and love them. the brakes suck, but they'll keep you in.
Apr 27 2007 2:21AM
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Silence
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thanks, so how does the FKS120 compare to the p12? what are the differences? - just a different heelpiece design?
Apr 27 2007 2:50AM
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eheath
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fks155 rock my world left and right.
Apr 27 2007 3:51AM
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gregor
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Ive got 185s and yeh they dont release. (well obviously they do) They're designed not to as they're primarily for racing.
Only really worth getting if you're really strong and/or hit enormous kickers and need the support. I perhaps dont really need mine but I'm an ex racer so thought it'd be cool! P14s are cheaper, safer and go up to a high enough din for anybody.
Apr 27 2007 4:52AM
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quebecfreestyler
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I rode the p18 fks 185 for a while and liked them a lot. they hold you very tight when needed but the toe piece might be a bit sketchy for park.

I know one fall where i could have messed up my leg big time because of the toe piece but luckily enought the screw stripped and the toe piece poped out before my elg would get worked.
Apr 27 2007 8:34AM
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CamBrowne
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i have the fks 155 and they are the shit
i think im gonna have them for a long long time cause they are so bomb proof
Apr 27 2007 8:59AM
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jhackbeez
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there awesome, im getting some next year fo sho
Apr 27 2007 9:03AM
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CTD
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SINGLE best binding in the history of skiing. Actually, the current model is not nearly as good as some previous turntable models, but oh well. in thier current stage, the 120s have a toe like the recreational pivot model, with upward release. the 155-185 models have a solid rotational toe, like a salomon 912 toe. 

but besides that, the FEEL of this binding is why people love it. since its a race binding, energy transfer is KEY, and there is almost no slop in the interface. along with that, the low mount and tight screw pattern allow the ski to flex naturally, directly behind the heel of the boot. ride these, then try some track mounted bindings like salomon or PXs. the feel is very noticable, and ruins the feel of a ski.

the bad parts of the binding: the brakes suck, plenty of people i know run the brakeless, just cause theyve broken off. and when they do, you have to unmount the ski to replace them. the turntable heel is a huge pain to deal with, and depending on the age of them, you have to keep an eye on the forward pressure, as sometimes they like to unscrew (the actual arms that hold it on).

the FKS is an amazing binding, and if your looking for the pinacle of preformance, its it. if your looking for something a bit more user friendly binding with exactly the same type of flex feel, and a tad less tight hold, the P12 is a great option.
Apr 27 2007 11:31AM
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ski_cartel
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thats basicly what i was going to say.

To simplify it all they are bomb proof, high performance, and the best binding on the planet. The ONLY draw's is in the 155/185 and the lack of vertiacl release and the brakes
Apr 27 2007 11:44AM
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bobs
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I have fks 120's on my park skis. Best binding I have ever ridden.  Vertical release,on the toe which is important to me plus you feel sucked into the ski. no tails sliding out like the old pivots.
Apr 27 2007 12:13PM
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B-DOG45
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hands down the best binding ever! i have ridden:marker,look,salomon,rossi, and the FKS is light, durable and amazing!
Apr 27 2007 1:19PM
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lyndon
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Hmm, ill be mounting some 120's on this years T-halls. Should I be concerned of a tear out? or not?
Apr 27 2007 8:24PM
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[~_~]
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word, my 155s work wonders. I can have the DIN on 9, or 12 for when I am hitting big stuff, and I only release when I REALLY crash hard, so I can dumble down the hill without releasing.

I have some Fischer bindings on 14 and I prerelease on the smallest shit, it pisses me off.

its not just the din setting that makes FKSs sick, its the fact that they're made of metal and just bombproof bindings all around. You dont have the crank the din way up just to stay in, so they are actually safer in my opinion.
Apr 27 2007 11:21PM
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skiRay
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i bought a pair of 120's earlier this year. havent mounteed them yet, but i am looking forward to putting them on some pipe cleaners
Apr 28 2007 11:09AM
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JTK
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all this talk about the fks.... fkxpro people!!

btw, ive got some lightly used axial race 140's i could sell in trendy neon green / black!
Apr 28 2007 2:05PM
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Campeador
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you'll love them. I have them on my T-halls and riding pipe just feels so fluid on these bindings.

The only downside on the binding is the brakes. If you release going switch that shit will bend out of shape and you have to spend a little time bending it back.
Apr 30 2007 1:30AM
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bbshooter
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word on the street is that this is the last year for look/rossi turntable heel piece. So , if you dont have any id stock up now while you can get em. they will be replaced with a heel piece very similar to the rossi/look 120's and 140's this year.
Apr 30 2007 1:41AM
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[~_~]
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^those heelpieces fucking suck
Apr 30 2007 9:38PM
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ShadyHillGroup
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yeah they do, why would they switch i remember a thread on it a while back but it still beats me, it seems like constructing a new heelpiece would be more expensive than keeping up with production on the old one
Apr 30 2007 9:49PM
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Barmski
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another thing bout the weight of these bindings: i dunno bout the 155 and 185 but my fks 120s are light as fuck too just those godam brakes. the worst part bout the brakes is u really cant bend em back once they bend a certain way without snapping em completely. Thats how Ive broken mine, they bend from a fall and they bend completel in another direction so that if u try to bend back to the original position they are crackin off. it sucks. other then that awesome binding for sure.
May 1 2007 1:43AM
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(Jonesy)
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WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT WEIGHT?!?! UNLESS YOU ARE A 2 FOOT 1 INCH CIRCUS DWARF, IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER!!!
May 1 2007 1:47AM
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freeski1620
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nope, i wouldn't be concerned at all.
May 1 2007 10:50AM
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Pipe_Munky
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i've got the atomic p18s and i've never had a problem with them. sure the toe has no verticle release but that's never bothered me. just make sure you don't fall backwards



May 1 2007 10:55AM
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CTD
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WORD. the PX is a heelpiece designed for a track mount or plate mount. in that kinda application, its a fine binding. however, flat deck mounting, they are HORRIBLE. they have a humongous screw pattern, and it creates a really big dead spot in the skis flex. i have absolutely zero idea why they stopped producing the FKS. look at almost all pro skiers, racers, freeriders, freestylers who dont have binding deals, everyone rides some form of this binding. shit, there are TONS of pros who skip out on free binders from other companies to ride these.
May 1 2007 2:06PM
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Uncle_Remus
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umm now that look/rossi is discontuing the fks/p series will Atomic or whoever makes the atomic ones contuine so that that design wont be totally dead??
May 1 2007 2:54PM
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Jib_This
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May 1 2007 3:09PM
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CTD
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um, i doubt it will be atomic, but just like full tilt, unless something comes along VERY soon thats better (like a revived and improved reactor), im sure they will bring it back or someone will buy the tooling and produce them. i would love if there was the whole line, with that heel and some of the various toe pieces theyve offered over the years. the old TT toe, pivot toe, older mid 90s FKS toe (like a metal pivot), and the more recent current toe. that would be sick.

for that matter, i wonder what the status on that patent is? i wonder is someone else could step up and improve that binding even more. better brakes, more solid construction in the plastic pieces that hold the brakes in, etc.
May 1 2007 3:37PM
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Jib_This
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The FKS binding with Atomic cosmetics is made by Look. And considering that Atomic just recently bought Salomon and has been rebranding S912s and 914s as Atomic bindings for the freestyle market, you're not likely to see any Atomic P/FKS bindings again, unless they're used.
May 1 2007 6:15PM
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