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how are they played dude? nobody can freaking do them really... and an octograb isnt when ur crossed up and crouched up in a ball grabbing a little in front of one binding, and a little behind the other... its when ur out on the tip and tail... with it soooo crossed that the tips are pointing with the tails... and ur looking through that shit...
I've tried an octo, just I couldn't get my skis back in time to land. Which didn't turn out so hot haha.
My hill doesn't really have a "good" jump for doing shit like that, which takes a long time. Instead of building jumps with lip, they build them for gaps, which you barely get any air. I'd prefer a 25' jump with a shitload of lip rather than a 45' with none.