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Scraping Wax

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45.
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Hey so i waxed my skis and went through the whole process.....now to comes the scraping. How do i know when to stop scraping? till there is no more wax coming off? till its smooth and even? what do i do?? plz help me out
Feb 24 2007 5:40PM
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SwitchMahFuckah
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Til no more wax comes off cept a few small shavings.
Feb 24 2007 6:07PM
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thedutchmayn
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scrape from tips to tail and scrape until your not getting much more off. it really doesn't matter that much since any left on there will come off in a run or two. the only wax that matters is what gets into the pores, not the excess on top.
Feb 24 2007 6:09PM
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45.
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alright thanks for the help

Feb 24 2007 6:10PM
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Silence
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yah any wax left on the surface will come off after a few runs anyway, notthinto worry about
Feb 24 2007 6:28PM
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TonyTheTiger
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I dont scrape at all. I've done this for years, and its IMO the best way to go.
Feb 24 2007 6:33PM
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ThaHater
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some people also like to brush out the ski after they scrape the ski, with the right brush it is similar to what a shop or machine wax will do.

supposely the brush strokes in the wax allow the snow crystals to fit in between and allows the skis to move faster. basically it is for skiing in softer conditions that this is suppose to work.

and not scraping your skis is fine too. the excess wax comes off the skis in a run or two anyways (the reason why high-level competing skiers tune their skis between every run). Of course initally the skis will move a little slower than a smooth surface.
Feb 24 2007 7:40PM
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SAM2000
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remember the more wax you put on the more work you will have. The best way is to put a very light film on by rubbing the bar of wax on the iron for a second. then rub the bar of wax on the ski. Rub just 5 to 6 inches of ski, then repeat heating wax on iron. Continue untill you've rubbed the whole ski. The next step is too rub the iron on the ski. This should be done fairly quickly just enough to melt the rubbed on wax.  Now when you scrape you will have much less excess wax. I like to then repeat this entire process. This allows the first waxing to bring out any gunk left in the bases. The the second waxing lays in clean wax. Check out my ski tuning squidoo www.squidoo.com/snowtuning  for more info.

 

Feb 25 2007 10:37AM
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J.D.
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That's how I do it too. Wastes a lot less wax.
Feb 25 2007 10:55AM
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Nadia.
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Well, you could always just buy cheap hydrocarbon wax, it's like 10$ ish for 90grams, a brick sized bar.

Heat iron, place bar on base of iron, coat the entire length of the ski. If you don't use enough wax you're going to burn your base.

Ideally, you want to let it cool for a minimum of 20 minutes. Then hold your scraper with thumbs facing, and scrape tip to tail.

Scrape til nothing is coming out of the base, then follow up with a brass brush, tip to tail til nothing comes out. I then follow with a horse hair and a nylon, but I race...

You should be fine with just a brass brush. If you don't scrape dirt and crap in the snow will rape your base.

Brushing is key.
Feb 25 2007 5:53PM
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Dustin.
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ya i don't scrape anymore. just once or twice real fast to get any chunks off
Feb 25 2007 5:57PM
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sack
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yeah, do like other people have said, scrape until it's still kind of shiny but almost no shavings come off. After, you can use a steel wool pad or one of those kitchen scouring pads (synthetic I guess)(also make sure it's fine not coarse, and without that soap stuff in it) instead of a brush to like buff the base and remove excess wax (although this won't make little grooves like the brush does of course)... something like this
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also if you're looking for an inexpensive base cleaner for before waxing, use windex. Ski factories use it and it does the trick. And to clean the edges after waxing (if you want--sometimes I skip this) you can scrub them with a scouring pad (like from the previous step) that has windex on it. To clean the sidewalls, if you want, take a soft cloth with windex on it and scrub the sidewalls. Sometimes sidewalls get dirty from the edge-cleaning step.
and finally, practice makes perfect (or almost perfect)! It takes a while to really know how it should look and how it will ride.
Feb 25 2007 6:43PM
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SAM2000
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brushing or rubbing with scothbrite is really the same thing. what you are doing at that point is removing the wax from the structure of the base.
Feb 25 2007 7:50PM
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slopestyle4331
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thats the dumbest thing in the world
Mar 22 2007 9:45PM
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Beans13
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yeah it is whoever doesnt scrape is retarded
Mar 23 2007 1:15PM
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cbrady
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just leave the wax on, and ski it off
Mar 23 2007 1:38PM
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freeskier2424
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why are people so retarded?
Mar 23 2007 2:04PM
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khyber.pass
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you risk getting rail-ski man -- as in, you wax over edges, hit ice, and uhh, can't hold an edge worth shit.
Mar 23 2007 2:08PM
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pales
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there is a cult devoted to this...
Mar 23 2007 2:16PM
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Markis
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my ski coach told us to leave on the wax sometimes during training, it just peels off in about 3-4 runs
Mar 23 2007 4:48PM
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chickenwang
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ok i dont scape ever and it works just as good

whats your logic to scaping? its smother? big deal if you want it to be smooth go over it with some steel wool really i would like to hear why scrapping is so "retarded"
Mar 23 2007 4:54PM
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waynewong
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springtime - yellow wax, heavy thick layer - No scraping (except the edges) - the rough snow in the spring will eat through the was so fast that unless you leave it thick you will be hiking down the run by midday -

Mar 23 2007 4:56PM
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sack
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there's a cult devoted to scraping wax?
maybe there should be a paint drying cult.
Mar 24 2007 2:12AM
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Dustin.
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dude, it comes off in maybe 3 runs if you looked. scraping isn't worth the time for freeriders
Mar 24 2007 2:38AM
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d.spong
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yea you dont really need to. it'll just come off anyways
Mar 24 2007 2:46AM
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fucked
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Haven't waxed my skis in 170 Days. (two years) They run fast as ever and are not dried out. After this amount of time I'm convinced that waxing is bullshit. If you have a good base, you don't need wax!!!
Let the reaping beging! hahahahahahahahhahahaha!
True story bitch!
Mar 24 2007 3:23AM
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prophet
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K... heres the deal, the more wax you scrape/brush out of your skis, the less there is to ski off. fully scraped/brushed skis youve got... 5 runs in em... but, if you dont scrape at all, the snow will just rip the wax out in about the same amount of time and its worse for your bases (which you shouldnt care about if youre jibbing anyway). chances are you dont have a scraper sharpener either, so your scrapers probably dull as shit and you therefore have no basis for comparison to anyone elses scraping techniques, or whatever you want to call it... so here's what you do: you throw some wax on, let it cool, then scrape some off... then you go skiing. or dont wax. its not that big a difference when youre freeksiing.
Mar 24 2007 5:15AM
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feezy
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when was the last time you skied with a waxed base? would you even remember what a fast ski feels like?
Mar 24 2007 6:19AM
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khyber.pass
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at Tremblant today my skis were sticking like glue as I hadn't waxed in 4 times out, I can't imagine 170 days..
Mar 26 2007 10:46AM
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skinnylove
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make sure u scrape it off ure edges or it will feel like there not there
Mar 26 2007 12:02PM
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SwitchBitch
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Definatly some of the most retarded answers Ive ever heard

If you don't scrape the wax off its just going to build up on the bases and collect dirt and shit from the snow. Especially with dirty spring snow

DON'T EVER USE BASE CLEANER. It will dry the shit out of your bases. The only thing you need base cleaner for is to clean your scraper any maybe if you use alot of high fluro/graphite/silicon wax cuz you ski on a glacier all summer.

You should always hot scrape with base prep or warm wax in spring conditions to get the dirt and any flurowax out of the bases. then brush.

When you're just scraping the bases just get as much as you can out. Then brush. Brushing is probably the most important step to get the wax into the structure and make your skis go fast dude. cuz its all about going fast and big air brah.
Mar 26 2007 1:16PM
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freeskier2424
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pretty much sums it up
Mar 26 2007 1:36PM
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wdbo.
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absolutely not necessary, go ahead and do it if you want but it does not make any difference. making a turn or two will get rid of any wax on your edges
Mar 26 2007 1:41PM
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wdbo.
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i hope that was sarcasm because that is a very stupid thing to do unless you like going slow
leaving the wax on will make your skis slower definatly scrape.
Mar 26 2007 1:44PM
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Sholte
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scrape till the base is shiny
Mar 26 2007 3:45PM
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