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Rockered Park Skis : The Future?

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(Jonesy)
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I think they might be. i want to try it out, but look at the latest update from pep.

http://www.filmtheidea.com/fujaspage.html

Your thoughts?
Feb 5 2007 11:10PM
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eheath
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Old new, but i can see some park skis made with a very slight rocker or something. Seems like having it rockered takes all of the pop away from the ski tho...
Feb 5 2007 11:13PM
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(Jonesy)
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i think that a totally flat ski would be prime for the park, or maybe just rockered in the tip. i don't really know. i want my own ski factory so i can play around with shit like this. anyone wanna throw down?
Feb 5 2007 11:19PM
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(Jonesy)
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on a side note, that is an amazing picture on that page.
Feb 5 2007 11:20PM
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Sholte
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^^yeah you would think it would take away all the pop because its less of a spring, but maybe it dosnt work that way.
Feb 5 2007 11:21PM
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Dustin.
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might be kind of wierd but who knows?
Feb 5 2007 11:25PM
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STAUSS
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i'd ski it.
Feb 5 2007 11:29PM
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CTD
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while i think what pep and andy are doing is sweet, they are NOT everyone in the general public. if you have a fat ass quiver of skis at your disposal, a rockered ski may be fun. however, they ski very poorly simply by design on hard snow. unless it would be strictly a "toy" to play on in the park, rockered park skis are not a serious option.
Feb 5 2007 11:29PM
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Evan_B.
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i love ns
Feb 5 2007 11:32PM
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FNJ
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would it really be that different other than the fact that itd be way more buttery
Feb 5 2007 11:33PM
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1-pippin
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prajekt skis had a dual camber thing but i dont think anyone knew what the hell that meant or what it would do, so i think they are out of buisness. it would make sense if it was rockered then like halfway between the binding and tip or tailit was normal camber.
Feb 5 2007 11:36PM
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720skiguy
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that movie is going to be sick
Feb 5 2007 11:37PM
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phsk8
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I made a pair of rockered skis out of an old pair of T-halls and hear is what I think. It made the already easy to butter t-halls effortless to nose butter. Didn't try too many tail butters but I really liked how they reverted from switch. There were a few times wear it saved me from catching my tips. Skied about the same which is not that well but I have no real complaints about that. I skied some bad powder and it was really fun. They kepted me above the snow. I really like how they skied switch because when you shifted your weight it never felt like your skis would catch and same with spinning switch off jumps. For the park it makes everything I did funner and better other than washing out on hard packs. If you have old skis give it a try. What I did at first was bend the tip and tail out and clamped around the bindings to keep the camber then heated the skis with a waxing iron. Now I use tie-downs to bow them to keep the shape. I think its worth the time and will end up buying some eventually.
Feb 6 2007 12:03AM
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4-Front
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intersesting, i think you should post some pictures
Feb 6 2007 1:06AM
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RichardCranium
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hi
Feb 6 2007 1:09AM
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K.C.Deane
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hello
Feb 6 2007 1:16AM
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(Jonesy)
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you sir, are a genius
Feb 6 2007 1:17AM
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Albino
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thats some crazy shit right there.

i dont know if id have the balls to fuck with my skis like that, even old ones.
Feb 6 2007 1:20AM
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timoski
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oooh ooh post pics, or better throw down in a vid
Feb 6 2007 1:44AM
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Arabian.
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what are rockered skis?
Feb 6 2007 1:48AM
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buchanan.
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i can see where it would improve aspects of park skiing and be realy fun, and i can also see y there would be some isues, i geuss we will see where it goes in the next couple of years
Feb 6 2007 2:21AM
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phsk8
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I'll work on it
Feb 6 2007 10:08AM
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quebecfreestyler
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http://tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59636
Feb 6 2007 11:46AM
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Mahre
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you should ski the skis before giving your opinion. they cut in hard snow better than any park ski. guaranteed. they nollie better, they press better, and the ski pow better.
Feb 6 2007 1:05PM
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SmoKinSkier
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sounds interesting as hell i really need to demo some or get out of a pair soon im anxious!!
Feb 6 2007 1:13PM
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Ryno
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What about ice?
Feb 6 2007 1:16PM
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CTD
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haha. yea, why they may work on west coast stuff, unfortunatly that isnt my scenario.
Feb 6 2007 1:20PM
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CTD
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and actually, i have skiied skis like this. my current first gen STLs are rockered to all hell, and they are TONS of fun for rails and butters, but at the same time i find them down right terrifying to jump on or actually ski at real speed.
Feb 6 2007 1:23PM
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Rajna
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Feb 6 2007 1:59PM
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=nick=
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dude skis park at snoqualmie on pontoons. kill it, too. pretty sweet, looked like fun
Feb 6 2007 2:10PM
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drwclrk
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sounds like an interesating concept. i wouldnt mind trying it, but in the mean time, i use my own skis
Feb 6 2007 3:32PM
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Mahre
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rockered stl's? we're talking skis made with rocker...
Feb 6 2007 4:27PM
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CooksCorner
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If they ski better than you're park skis then you should put them in the fire. A rockered ski makes NO sense if you're trying to turn on hardpack...I cant imagine what a carve would be like. They are a play thing, a very specific ski for very specific purpose and will never overtake the traditional camber.
Feb 6 2007 5:18PM
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Melvs
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That's probably because your cores are so shot to hell...in fact, I know that is why.
Feb 6 2007 5:46PM
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1-pippin
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i think it makes sense for park, ive never tried it so im not gonna pretend like i know what im talking about like you are. even if you cant carve as well who cares, my edges are rounded like crazy from tip to tail and im fine with how they carve, i dont see how it being rockered makes it specific.
Feb 6 2007 5:53PM
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ski@jaypeak2
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andy is andy mahre for the record i believe
Feb 6 2007 6:10PM
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grambo
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How do you get rocker in an STL? You mean it is decambered? You can't accidently put camber into a ski just by riding it. You can bend it if it has metal in it but that is completely different. It either has to be pressed with rocker or bent afterwards (like that guy on TGR bent Atomic Pow Plus to have tip/tail rocker).
Feb 6 2007 6:45PM
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LINE169
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the special shape that most skis have,is what gives them pop.
with rocker skis you would be able to spring off of your tail
Feb 6 2007 6:54PM
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wdbo.
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people i've talked to who have rockered skis have told me that they are scary as hell on groomers
Feb 6 2007 6:57PM
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chrismoJBEATS
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haha troll
beat me to it
Feb 6 2007 7:02PM
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Canuker
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i really want to trie some!! i think they would be sick
Feb 6 2007 7:45PM
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CooksCorner
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Exactly. It defiantly depends the degree to which they are rockered but all you need to know is basic geometry to understand that its not an effective way to build a ski that turns.
Feb 6 2007 8:01PM
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mohawkskier
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less ski on the snow means less control so i think rockered skis are still for bottomless pow
Feb 6 2007 8:05PM
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Wis_Skier_23
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what do you mean by rockered skis are they like bent upward or somthing
Feb 6 2007 8:38PM
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BusyJohnSohn
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those would be soo fun on boxes and rails. wow
Feb 7 2007 9:58AM
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KZA
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and youve skiied these skis i take it?
Feb 7 2007 11:10AM
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LINE169
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everyone go read the article that pep made, kinda makes me think that it might be the future
Feb 9 2007 7:50PM
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dr_phil
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so they're overall better skis (?)
that seems dope, did k2 patent this idea?
Feb 9 2007 7:52PM
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phsk8
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Here are my slightly rockered t-halls.

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Its not very much but the softness makes it seem like more. They are nothing compared to the K2s considering the edges are shot and the flex is very soft and I can still ski them fine.

Credit goes to some member and TGR
Feb 9 2007 8:23PM
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phsk8
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Feb 9 2007 8:27PM
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*DrewT*
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I think I might do that to a pair of old skis sometime. Right now I don't have old skis to use though
Feb 21 2007 7:12PM
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