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Edward.
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i started to try cork 5s today, i carve a little bit on the jump, i drop my shoulder and spin and people told me that i got about 450 and i landed on my side every time i tried them, do i just need a bigger jump or am i doing something wrong? because the jump i was trying it on was about 15-20 ft because its all my mtn has so far. do i have to pop wen i do them too?
Feb 2 2007 11:38PM
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andy_boy
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Exactly what happened to me... 2 weeks ago... haven't had the opportunity to try them since...
Feb 2 2007 11:42PM
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eheath
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1. You need a bigger jump
2. Do cork 7s first
Feb 2 2007 11:42PM
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railslayer
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Put a cork in it with mike douglas
http://www.skinet.com/skinet/photos/article/0,26964,1574121,00.html
Feb 3 2007 3:09AM
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Alkyy
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exactly
Feb 3 2007 8:39AM
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Black-Bandanna
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Drop your shoulder and COMMIT TO THE ROTATION!!!!!! can't stress that enough... You weren't commiting and that's why you were landing on your side.
Feb 3 2007 9:10AM
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ktollefson_1080
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really? i always land lick on my but when doing cork 720s in gym

would that mean i would be fucked when i go of a jump? cause the jump and landing are completely different degrees
Feb 3 2007 5:03PM
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Edward.
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ive been trying them all day yesterday over a 25-30 ft step down jump and the same thing just keeps happening to me most of the time. i almost landed them twice but the other 10 tries i kept doing 450 and landing on my side. can i have some tips because nobody ever really taught me how to spin wen doing corks. what i do is i carve off the jump a little bit, drop my left shoulder and with my right shoulder, i kind of bring it up a little bit and spin with it at the same time. what do i do with my right shoulder, am i doing it the right way or should i just spin my right shoulder like im doing a regular spin while keeping my left shouler down so its somewhat like a misty?
Feb 25 2007 5:07PM
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Sholte
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drop youre shoulder earler, and spin harder
Feb 25 2007 5:12PM
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unchyll
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well if you spin left you drop your right shoulder not your left...haha and when your in the air make sure you stay tucked cus when you hit it all bonnered out your just gonna land on your side
Feb 25 2007 5:18PM
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Edward.
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this isnt me in this video but this is how i fall most of the time, but i dont know if i go as corked as this guy does

http://media.nscdn.com/uploads/member/videos/1170809538TimoCork5.wmv
Feb 25 2007 5:18PM
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Edward.
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umm, no im pretty sure im supposed to drop my left shoulder if i spin left, that would just feel really uncomfortable if i dropped my right shoulder and i think that would be a bio, or do i have everything mixed up?
Feb 25 2007 5:21PM
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MitchPee
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Wise advice...cork 7 is a much more natural rotation.
Feb 25 2007 6:01PM
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hartig
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I just got cork 3's today, and all I can say is carve.
Feb 25 2007 6:08PM
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unchyll
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yeah im like 100% positive you drop your right shoulder or atleast thats what i do and what i was taught to do
Feb 25 2007 6:20PM
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JayDope
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well eddie, from watching u try ur cork 5's, u def have the rotation, only some of them were a little less than a 540. From that vid u posted of the guy, its hard to tell if u get as corked as him, because i either watched u try them from before the jump, or from the side, but u DEF get corked. My advice to u is just keep trying them, and maybe spin a little harder. Maybe we can go tomorrow and they will have some soft landnigs, ill try some 2
Feb 25 2007 6:24PM
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hartig
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I'm 100% positive that you were taught wrong then..
Feb 25 2007 6:30PM
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unchyll
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ok well id like to see some one do a cork while dropping their left shoulder obviosuly its not working out for him

you carve left a little bit, throw your right shoulder down and look at the ground instead of the horizon like a normal spin while staying tucked and spot your landing as much as you can during this
Feb 25 2007 6:55PM
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Edward.
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i do see some people throwing their right shoulders down but they also drop their left shoulder more than their right shoulder
Feb 25 2007 7:05PM
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pmills
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i set by carve left drop left shoulder and look back at the left side of the lip


when throwing for a 7 i end up seeing the ground at around 5 off my side and look at that to spot, but that ends up stoping my rotation and i don't land uncorked.. now i have a broken hand
Feb 25 2007 7:30PM
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unchyll
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haha i think i just got some words mixed up cus dropping your right shoulder is pretty much dropping your left shoulder if you spin left i just thought it would be more of a throwing up motion with your left shoulder than dropping
Feb 25 2007 7:41PM
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heFF
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if u spun left and dropped ur right shoulder wouldn't that throw u into some bio/rodeoish roatation
Feb 25 2007 7:59PM
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Chief.Woodcock
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BALLS TO THE WALL, AND NINJA KICK
Feb 25 2007 8:02PM
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Caleb_F
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The method for throwing a corked spin isn't all that much different than throwing it regular. I learned corked 7s first but you don't have to do it that way.

1)Make sure your regular spins are dialed and that when you spin them, your are tucked. Corked spins have to be tucked or you won't get your feet underneath you. Make sure you can throw a solid 5 and 7 in a tucked position, preferably with a grab.

2)Try it on a trampoline first, if you can. (Corked 5s are harder on the trampoline than corked 7s) Otherwise, wait for a soft day if you can. You'll need a decent size hit.

3)There are a couple ways to get corked on skis.

The Carved Takeoff: One way is to carve the takeoff, which works best for corked 3s and 5s. You'll want to start practicing regular spins with a carved takeoff and then gradually take them corked. If you are spinning left, approach the jump a bit from the skiers left. As you come up the lip, carve left. Set your spin with a little less pop than you would on a straight takeoff, drop your left shoulder just a bit and keep your head down. From here, it's all about staying tucked until you're back on axis and keeping your head down. Sometimes it actually helps to grab it too because it keeps you in the correct position.

The Straight Takeoff: This method, at least for me, is best for throwing anything from a corked 7 on up. Approach the lip with your feet shoulder width apart. Pop the lip and set your spin with a little more rotation than you would with a normal spin. Drop you lead shoulder just a bit and instead of keeping your eyes on the horizon, look at the run in about 100 feet behind you. (Don't focus on it though or it will stop your spin. That's just the angle that you want you head at.) From there, tuck it up, keep your head in the spin, and it will naturally bring your feet back under you. Spot your landing and you'll be good to go.

Corked spins are easy once you get them but difficult to get the hang of. Plan on taking a few diggers.

Also, if you drop your right shoulder it will tend to throw you into more of a d-spin. (in other words, more inverted.) Anyway, good luck.
Feb 25 2007 8:11PM
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unchyll
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well i dont throw down i guess what im trying to say is that is that my right shoulder drops after my left shoulder drops idunno i dont really notice dropping my left shoulder at all when i cork
Feb 25 2007 8:12PM
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Edward.
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i think i have to tuck more
Feb 25 2007 8:53PM
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madtownfreestyle
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same thing happened to me
Feb 25 2007 9:10PM
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G.R.E.G.
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yo u dont really need a bigger jump.. i learned cork 5s on a 15 foot jump tht sucked ass and was fine but then i was throwing cork 7s over a 10 ft. table at msa... jus come into it and throw urself off ur noses looking down at the back of ur bindings as u set ur rotation, it will seem like r going to bio but u end up in a cork, and in the air just maintain commited and dont pussy out, tht was my main problem in the beginning and i landed on my side but then once i got over it i landed them every time
Feb 25 2007 9:46PM
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Edward.
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ok i just got back and never landed one still. i tried tucking and looking over my shoulder but the same thing just keeps happening to me over and over. nobody ever answered this question i asked which is probably one of the main reasons why i cant land them. do i throw it like its a misty or something like a rodeo?
Mar 3 2007 7:23PM
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r.giuliano
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just keep tryin
Mar 3 2007 7:28PM
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toominator
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what are the motions for a bio?
Mar 3 2007 7:43PM
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Edward.
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do i throw my body downwards and left, or upwards and left?
Mar 3 2007 7:54PM
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treesmann
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isnt that bio?
Mar 3 2007 7:56PM
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Thomson.
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thats wrong, your doing flatish/bioish spins if you do that, a real cork is when you (if you spin left) drop your left shoulder and perfectly parallel with the ground head always up hill.  http://media.nscdn.com/uploads/member/videos/1172429294bkkliten.wmv

this is a little more d-spin'ish but its close.

Mar 3 2007 8:10PM
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Caleb_F
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It's more like throwing a misty, except you throw it behind you. Think of taking your right arm and as you throw your spin, throw it down toward your left heel. It will make you do a d-spin (go inverted) but that will get you started. The less you throw down, the less you will cork.
Mar 5 2007 3:47PM
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