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threejay
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well, I did my duty and used the search function beforehand but didnt find what i was looking for...has anyone here used the lizzie's and not liked them? It seems like every one that has tried these ski's has raved about how fun they are, how much they love them etc...All the negative comments seem to be people that have never tried them. For a reference I'm 5'10" 160 pounds, live in new hampshire and ski 50/50 park all mountain. I'm looking for a fat ski that is just a good time all around. These would pretty much be an every day ski for me...input is appreciatted.
May 20 2006 8:16PM
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MrPantyDropper
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the only negative comments have been from people using them for charging, big mtn, and powder.
May 20 2006 8:26PM
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FNJ
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i can see charging and big mtn because they're so soft but powder wtf
May 20 2006 9:41PM
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bret
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yeah they're definitely not a ski to go fast and straight in choppy stuff. they do really well in powder, but again, they definitely like to surf and turn rather than straightline.
May 20 2006 11:37PM
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MrPantyDropper
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they have a shit load of sidecut and basically no taper. i can see how.
May 20 2006 11:45PM
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wazzucrewskier
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this guy put it dead on. by far the most fun ski i have ever been on to carve with. these things absolutely rip. you can lay them over super hard when the snow is nice, but when its tracked out later in the day it gets a little scary.
May 21 2006 4:01AM
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strode
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yeah in fresh pow they are sick, so effortless to turn, especially in the trees, but they really must be turning at all times. once you get into choppy stuff you really have to pay attention. really poppy though. and they don't haul ass either. on any other pair of skis i'm leading the pack of snowboarders that i ride with pretty much all the time, but on my eliz's i'm usually the last. and i'm 6'1" 175 just for reference.
May 21 2006 6:23AM
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titsLOL
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sorry for the thread-jack, but do you think if they were longer (bacons) they would be a lil better in chop?
May 21 2006 11:36AM
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bret
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maybe, but they're still really soft. like they're not terrible in choppy snow, unless it's icy chop. few days after a storm is fine, it's just that they aren't a ski to blast through stuff, they go on top instead.
May 21 2006 1:21PM
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Emperoryder
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I suggest the karhu PFDs, just tried them out at mammoth. Had elizabeth's earlier in the season. It has same dimension but a little stiffer and more durable sidewall. PFD was crazy poppy even compared to the Mik-D's.
May 21 2006 1:29PM
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strode
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nah the length isn't an issue.....plus i hear the bacons are even softer than the eliz (don't quote me on that though).
May 21 2006 3:55PM
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TheBigD
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are the elizbeths better the the seths?
May 21 2006 3:55PM
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TheBigD
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or the prophets 100
May 21 2006 3:56PM
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strode
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^it all depends on what you ski and your own personal preference. right now i have elizabeths for fresh days at like vail and keystone and places where the terrain isn't too gnarly, msp's (similar to seth's) for park and non-fresh days/weeks, and the ski that'll complete the quiver would be something along the lines of the prophet 100 for charging shit, sooo..... they're all quite different
May 21 2006 3:59PM
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titsLOL
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my sister works at copper and next year I'm livin with her for a month and workin there too. We're gonna drive around to other places but I'll probably do most of my skiing at copper, would the SFBs be fun? I was also lookin at the scratch BCs, but I really love butterin around and stuff so the SFBs sound pretty dope. I'm 6 foot so I figured lizzies would be short
May 21 2006 6:24PM
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smuggs
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id get any other ski but line. i had elizabeths. they were cool, but they are god awful skis for skiing and jsut about everything else because they are so small. plus they broke and line didnt care. so id explore other options.
May 21 2006 6:41PM
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threejay
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quoting smuggs from another thread...
"i rode them when i was at smuggs..... the are killer. now that im in utah... they are amazing. there never has been a better ski invented or there never will be until line makes something fatter or until some company like ninthward just rips off the idea and takes it as their own."

so, i guess your only grip is that your looks ripped out of the ski and line didnt help you out. Understandably your upset, but if i mount these with bindings that have a wider drill pattern they should be fine.
May 21 2006 9:27PM
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Fairview
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HAHA, Al Capowned!
May 21 2006 10:10PM
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threejay
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so no legit negativity....thats a first.
May 22 2006 9:58PM
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Emperoryder
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All I can say is that the sidewall was very weak. I rode the PFD and the sidewall is lot more durable and flex is stiffer.

The PFD had just as much pop as the Mik D's. I was very surprised and it was hella fun to ride. Only downside of the PFD compare to eliza is that its heavier.
May 22 2006 10:24PM
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strode
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^yeah i bought his elizabeths. they had a huge sidewall blowout right under the binding that i didn't know about til they arrived. no biggie though, the fix on them was fuckin immaculate and i haven't caused them a bit of physical damage.
May 23 2006 3:16AM
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threejay
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Am i gonna be too big to ride this ski... (5'10, 160 pounds). I could get sir francis bacons or ninthward rory silvas if so...Anyone my size and ski the elizabeths? How do you feel about the size...a 172 seems pretty short to me.
May 23 2006 11:33AM
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MarkieR
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personally, i can't stand the elizabeth. i think there are many better options out there. the elizabeth is too soft and short for anyone bigger than 140 pounds, in my opinion. sure, they may be fun in fresh pow surfing through the trees, and if you can afford to have a pair of skis that niche specific, go for it. but i think you'll have one bitch of a time skiing those in any other situations. if the silva's are stiffer, get those, or those PFD's someone was talking about in this thread.
May 23 2006 12:18PM
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wazzucrewskier
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well, im 6'2'' and 160lbs and i ski them fine, so i dont think so. i mean sure they feel a tad short, but thats what makes them so fun. they are meant to be super quick and agile, so if thats not what you want then yes, get something longer. if you want to be able to rip turns then get these.
May 23 2006 5:55PM
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MarkieR
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ahhh nooooo way homeboy.
May 23 2006 7:03PM
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threejay
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what would you suggest instead then...East coast every day ski...park and all mountain(50/50)..but preferably something ludicrously fat. im 5'10 160.
May 23 2006 10:11PM
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wazzucrewskier
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cool man... thanks for the sarcastic remark that was in a thread asking for opinions. i didnt say you were wrong... so what is up with all the hate.
May 23 2006 10:25PM
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Emperoryder
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I suggest the PFDs, little stiffer and more durable. Like I said, I skied both of them and like the PFD's better than the eliza's and I also live on the east coast. These bitches curve like hell, pop like hell, and just all around fun ski.
May 23 2006 11:02PM
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MarkieR
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there's no hate, i just said no way homeboy. i don't see how that's offensive. i appologize for any misconstrusion.
May 24 2006 12:09AM
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MarkieR
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from what i've skied, get the made'n. they're pretty damn wide, and they're fun as hell. plus, next year's graphic is straight up scary. i'm talkin' horror movie shit.
May 24 2006 12:11AM
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wazzucrewskier
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no biggie, it just seemed like you were talking shit. but since you werent, no biggie. sorry about the confusion.
May 24 2006 1:51AM
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strongmark
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i heard that theyre made for gay kids.

RIGHT UP YOUR ALLEY THEN TEEHEEHEE!!!!!!!
May 26 2006 6:44PM
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sluethi
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go home
May 26 2006 7:04PM
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japollner
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made'n's, seths, scratch bc's...those work
May 26 2006 8:51PM
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threejay
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why would you jack my thread faggggg.
May 26 2006 11:02PM
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Emperoryder
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To end this thread, they fuken kill and kick ass until it gets thrashed and gets fuked up. End of story, case dismissed.
May 26 2006 11:03PM
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smuggs
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they suck if u actually have skied a ski that skis well......... if you havent then you wouldnt know the difference anyways.
May 27 2006 2:48AM
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attitashfreestyle29
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I can't wait to try mine this is gonna be a very long summer
May 27 2006 7:19PM
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