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Grabs for faster spins

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caro.dillon
Posts: 1229 - Karma: 21
I can grab my 3s fine, and spin up to 5s and stuff, but for 7s, i was wondering, my coach said that making yourself more compact makes you spin faster and easier to land. So what im asking is if i grab when im trying to spin a 7, like with a safety grab, will it be easier to do that or should i just stay compact and spin?
Apr 12 2006 8:30PM
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Aenigma
Posts: 11256 - Karma: 424
Grabbing actually slows you down. If you're just going for the spin for the first time, try it without a grab and it should come around fairly easily, then once you have it dialed you can work on grabs/cork/etc.
Apr 12 2006 8:32PM
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caro.dillon
Posts: 1229 - Karma: 21
but grabbing makes you more compact and i dont even think about it when i grab, why would it slow you down?
Apr 12 2006 8:35PM
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mattyb.
Posts: 6041 - Karma: 2,091
if i do a 7 on a small jump i would tuck in and do a safty to make me spin faster to get the spin,
they deffinitaly make u spin faster
Apr 12 2006 8:37PM
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caro.dillon
Posts: 1229 - Karma: 21
so then my other question is, should i be trying 7s on a smaller jump to make me spin faster, or on a bigger jump just so i have time for the rotation?
Apr 12 2006 8:38PM
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forfun
Posts: 4916 - Karma: 66
do a hood grab, thats what i learned to do 7s with
Apr 12 2006 8:41PM
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caro.dillon
Posts: 1229 - Karma: 21
hood grab?
Apr 12 2006 8:42PM
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Public_Maverick
Posts: 3255 - Karma: 11
oh you don't know?
just work up the spins with each grab, don't spin without grabs. thats my rule.
Apr 12 2006 8:46PM
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forfun
Posts: 4916 - Karma: 66
sorry, i just typed that really fast, tahts what some people @ Mt. Hood call double saftey grabs. they're good cause you dont flail or put any arms up. See sammy's first trick in War! to see a perfect 720 hood grab
Apr 12 2006 8:48PM
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awsomecoolguy
Posts: 3536 - Karma: 13
hmm i really can see were getting tucked would help you spin faster. but grabing has always slowed me down.
Apr 12 2006 8:52PM
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caro.dillon
Posts: 1229 - Karma: 21
okay, but no one answered my other question, should i be trying 7s on smaller jumps and trying to spin fast, or bigger jumps and just getting the rotation easy and smooth?
Apr 12 2006 8:53PM
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BigJew
Posts: 6974 - Karma: 79
I just started trying 7's. Pencil them out until you got it dialed then keep doing them more and more compact until you're doing an actual grab. I find it's easier to do a 7 on a small jump and land it because you have less airtime to land backseat and it hurts less to fall. Again, once you get better start doing it off bigger jumps.
Apr 12 2006 9:16PM
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caro.dillon
Posts: 1229 - Karma: 21
everyones always told me not to pencil it, it just gets you into bad habits and style
Apr 12 2006 9:19PM
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TechnoPotamus
Posts: 11626 - Karma: 3,522
grabbing doesn't slow you down. if you're compact like she is saying, like for instance a double safety, like cannonball style you'll spin much faster. I can spin way faster like that than spinning normal or with lame ass pencil steeze
Apr 12 2006 9:25PM
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BusyJohnSohn
Posts: 3483 - Karma: 29
just roll into a tight compact balland spin your ass off
Apr 12 2006 9:38PM
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EClay46
Posts: 2499 - Karma: 69
thats weird, i can only do my spins with grabs, i cant spin pencil. i have never tried it i just naturally go into a tail/mute and a critical if i think to
Apr 12 2006 9:41PM
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JamesB
Posts: 1461 - Karma: 11
i just throw my right shoulder down its easier to grab corked i find. yup good
Apr 12 2006 9:45PM
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brennanmidwest
Posts: 925 - Karma: 13
id say like 20-25 footer for learnin 7's..thats waht i did and it worked
Apr 12 2006 9:52PM
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Holte
Posts: 10730 - Karma: 7,744
mutes and tails tend to make you spin slower, safetys tend to make you spin faster.
Apr 12 2006 9:52PM
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Billiards.
Posts: 6853 - Karma: 816
My first 7 was wayyy corked. haha.
Apr 12 2006 10:04PM
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billy092
Posts: 1202 - Karma: 12
try your 7s on a smaller jump, 20 ft?
Apr 12 2006 10:06PM
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bobs
Posts: 4801 - Karma: 869
i develop a habit of unconiously doing the same grab. w/o knowing it ill always do opp safties wen i first try something. sounds like tucking is wat u do, if ur doin a new spin dont really think just do it and see wat happenns
Apr 12 2006 10:09PM
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*rkp*
Posts: 8198 - Karma: 257
i find reverse mutes are easiest when you try to spin fast
Apr 13 2006 12:47AM
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caro.dillon
Posts: 1229 - Karma: 21
yeah, thats all i was planning on doing anyways. i think to much when i do other grabs and that just screws me up on rotations
Apr 13 2006 10:12AM
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SN0WBOARDER
Posts: 1454 - Karma: 11
Grab safety
Apr 13 2006 10:38AM
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Subjekt
Posts: 1431 - Karma: 12
i used to be afraid of trying to learn on bigger jumps, but just get used to the specific hit, dont try to learn on small ones, it doesnt give you the opportunity to really feel the spin. if you learned it all hucked, it might take a bit to learn to style it out. take a bigger jump and have more time to spin.
Apr 13 2006 11:04AM
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K-Thomas
Posts: 2700 - Karma: 604
everyone's gonna tell you something different...do you
Apr 13 2006 11:50AM
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Barmski
Posts: 4342 - Karma: 811
^ yea very tru kevin but the more u do get into a tuck and grab the faster u spin but its a lot harder to control......sometimes u will overotate by a whole spin or more. crazy stuff.
Apr 13 2006 12:03PM
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SteezePatrol
Posts: 10281 - Karma: 36
yea main problem...coach

ski for yourself
Apr 13 2006 12:14PM
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chrismoJBEATS
Posts: 5898 - Karma: 44
i think a saftey is easier than a double saftey
off small jumps
Apr 13 2006 12:21PM
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IHOP
Posts: 2155 - Karma: 19
I actually just started doing 7s yesterday and i learned them on the bigger jumps and found that they aren't that much harder than 5's. So Learn them on the biggest jump that you are comfortable with, and if your going for 7s im hoping you are already comfortable with your rotations and you know how to set your spins both fast and slow.

Also, grabs slow you down in case you haven't figured it out. Good luck.
Apr 13 2006 12:53PM
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holyDINOSAURS
Posts: 7038 - Karma: 639
yeah i always grab reverse safety when learning new spins
Apr 13 2006 2:01PM
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BFINO13
Posts: 1563 - Karma: 14
safety or reverse safety
Apr 13 2006 2:21PM
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3ski6guy0
Posts: 9201 - Karma: 132
grabbing slows me down. pencil style makes spinning the fastest. but grabbing looks better
Apr 13 2006 2:24PM
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caro.dillon
Posts: 1229 - Karma: 21
man, after reading all your guyses feed back, i was wicked stoaked to try some, but my mountains closing in like a week, this sucks
Apr 13 2006 3:55PM
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S2daJ
Posts: 919 - Karma: 10
i did my first seven over a 45 footer that i had never even spun a 3 or a 5 over
Apr 13 2006 6:20PM
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scratchskier170
Posts: 443 - Karma: 10
hood grabs are so sick. ya thats perfect to do bigger spins with. cuz u are super compact and it makes it impossible to flail wen ur grabbing. just suck up ur knees and grab at the boots
Apr 13 2006 6:37PM
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scratchskier170
Posts: 443 - Karma: 10
if i pencil i always lean one way or the other and kill myself so id try and avoid that. and id go with bigger jumps like 30' and 40'.
Apr 13 2006 6:39PM
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caro.dillon
Posts: 1229 - Karma: 21
i've honestly never tryed pencil steeze before, and i honestly never want to either
Apr 15 2006 6:07PM
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alpineplease
Posts: 2789 - Karma: 1,756
i hear u can spin hella fast with truckdrivers.
Apr 15 2006 6:23PM
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dweezileast
Posts: 9661 - Karma: 276
try 7's on big jumps and spin slower. you look ridiculous when you huck like a slut just to say u landed a trick
Apr 15 2006 6:28PM
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SkierX
Posts: 16253 - Karma: 538
A bigger jump is going to be scarier and more intimidating the first time.

But it is a shitload easier than on a small jump.
Apr 15 2006 7:01PM
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dweezileast
Posts: 9661 - Karma: 276
right, but if you dont want to try it over a bigger jump, you should get more comfortable with spinning all the tricks you know over a big jump.
Apr 15 2006 7:25PM
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caro.dillon
Posts: 1229 - Karma: 21
i think that just as long as im comfortable with the jump, even if it is bug, will be fine
Apr 15 2006 10:29PM
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caro.dillon
Posts: 1229 - Karma: 21
but the other thingwas, i was talking to a couple friends, and they said they can never spin fast on bigger jumps. you know how you can really huck yourself on small like mini park jumpss? they just cant do that on bigger jumps and i was wondering if i would have that problem too
Apr 15 2006 10:30PM
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dweezileast
Posts: 9661 - Karma: 276
this man, speaks the total truth. dont be a claimer by neglecting style just to land a trick
Apr 15 2006 10:34PM
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Edward.
Posts: 9366 - Karma: 445
i dont think you have to grab, just keep your body spinning and dont flail, tucking might help
Apr 15 2006 10:35PM
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caro.dillon
Posts: 1229 - Karma: 21
ive tryed like tucking my legs up before and everything, but does anyone else think its just much easier to grab?
Apr 15 2006 10:39PM
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dweezileast
Posts: 9661 - Karma: 276
yeah, when you grab, it controls your spin, and adds style. i dont know why you wouldnt want to grab in some manner
Apr 15 2006 10:58PM
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caro.dillon
Posts: 1229 - Karma: 21
so do you guys have any more tips for 7s or is that it?
Apr 16 2006 10:37AM
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jS.torgeRseN
Posts: 1155 - Karma: 11
grab mute with ur left hand....
Apr 16 2006 11:17AM
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