Ok heres how it happened. As i ride MTBs in the summer as i cant get overseas to ski, i was looking on thbe Oakley site and found a sweet new frame. Just by the looks of it i bet that it would come out for skier/snowboarders as well. So i went in to a store at Off Peist and spoke to them aboput it and that confermed that it would be out next southern winter and the next Northen winter. Just to check i wrang a mate wo works at Oakley and asked him about it, he replyed with you shouldnt know about that but you do so i questioned him some more. He told me that it would sit between the Wisdoms and the ever populer Aframes as far as price goes. I was quite stoked at finding this out so i wanted to share it with you.