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Trouble maker or scratch

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lineskier129
Posts: 318 - Karma: 10
what is a better ski for the park and all mountain dynstar trouble maker or the rossingol scratch pro

Jul 14 2005 8:29PM
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xnick11
Posts: 1866 - Karma: 171
mmmm i think ur sister will be the best to ride on haha

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Jul 14 2005 11:05PM
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......gus.....
Posts: 259 - Karma: 10
hha pretty funny....i reckon ur mum would be dope as well xnick11.... u are a dick. back to the question...the Scratch Pro would be better overall

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Jul 15 2005 2:28AM
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Deezl
Posts: 2112 - Karma: 8
seems like a tough call. they are similar in so many ways that it probably is simply opinion with no clear winner.

Jul 15 2005 3:25AM
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montageskier
Posts: 4725 - Karma: 126
He knows him its called a joke you cock.




Jul 16 2005 4:15PM
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montageskier
Posts: 4725 - Karma: 126
O ya get the TM's. But if you dont then get last years scratches they are only because they are so cheap on d structure




Jul 16 2005 4:16PM
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CollinWright
Posts: 1919 - Karma: 82
scratch is so much better.. man tm's edges will blow out so fast... i know thisa guy who blew out his edges on his tm's 2nd day.. scratches have a pretty strong edge

Jul 16 2005 4:23PM
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xnick11
Posts: 1866 - Karma: 171
ya well we really dont do to many rails around here

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Jul 16 2005 4:27PM
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CollinWright
Posts: 1919 - Karma: 82
^ still... scratch is a better ski,

Jul 16 2005 5:25PM
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freeskier1316
Posts: 1771 - Karma: 27
Tms def have a better flex pattern and are stiffer if you like stiffer skis or you do pipe


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Jul 16 2005 11:47PM
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paprika
Posts: 360 - Karma: 10
I would go for TMs, I just got the new ones a week ago and from the previous models its WAY better. The construction and strength of the ski have been beefed up and its a bit on the stiff side which I love. BTW I ride 80% trees and pow and only 20% park, so the stiffness is definetly a good thing for me personally. As well the edges have supposedly been also strenghtened, but since I havent tried and probably wont try since I dont like rails I wont know, but they say they have been made better. I would say TMs.

Jul 16 2005 11:53PM
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D-40
Posts: 6050 - Karma: 100
the tms edges definitally didnt get changed or beefed up

Jul 16 2005 11:55PM
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paprika
Posts: 360 - Karma: 10
^^^Whatever, Its not like Ill need to worry about that cause as long as the construction of the ski is good and its a bit stiff then Im happy.

Jul 17 2005 12:00AM
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paprika
Posts: 360 - Karma: 10
Bt the way 1260, just wondering but how do you know the edges havent been changed? Cuase most people that Ive talked to say they supposedly have.

Jul 17 2005 12:22AM
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-AR_Seven-
Posts: 553 - Karma: 10
^Just don't ask. It's a fact. They haven't been changed, and they won't be next year. TMs are complete pieces of crap and no one at Dynastar has any intention of doing anything about it any time soon. Don't talk about "good construction" because they don't have that going for them either, compared to, uh, every other ski company in existence. You MIGHT be able to make an argument that they're built tougher than Fujatives or 1260s, other companies' bargain skis, but that's about it... and the edges are still worse. Scratches are noodles but ski well considering they're so soft... they're also light and ski great switch. Unless you really love pipe stay the fuck away from Troublemakers.

Jul 17 2005 12:40AM
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-AR_Seven-
Posts: 553 - Karma: 10
As a matter of fact, screw this comparison. Get some all mountain skis if you want to ski all mountain. It's not that tough to pull off... I'm sure Skidstore.com still has some skogens or moships or pollards. If not get next year's PEs from Proctorjones.com, they're a great shop. Or hell, Jibij probably has them for a decent price. Why limit yourself to those 2?

Jul 17 2005 12:45AM
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freeskier1316
Posts: 1771 - Karma: 27
excellent point listen to thses wise words unless you're gettin an awesome deal listen to what he is saying


'kevin whyed nils pull you out?' 'Cuz i was touchin bitches.' 'No seriously why did he put scott in for you.' 'Scott doesn't touch bitches.'

Viva Candide
Jul 17 2005 1:43PM
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montageskier
Posts: 4725 - Karma: 126
Your not going to break this kid. He has wanted Scratches all year. I kept telling him to keep looking around for other skis, but he just wants the scratches.




Jul 17 2005 2:38PM
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Joemuench
Posts: 883 - Karma: 10
get the chronics lol irrelevant to the question


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Jul 17 2005 2:50PM
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-AR_Seven-
Posts: 553 - Karma: 10
1) Then why is his name "linerider"

2) Then why is he asking about TMs?

Jul 17 2005 3:03PM
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montageskier
Posts: 4725 - Karma: 126
1.Because he has mike nicks. 2. Because i was telling him to look at different ski other than the scratches and he picked tm's.




Jul 17 2005 4:04PM
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grubix2
Posts: 2628 - Karma: 25
I have scratch FS's, and I couldn't be happier with them. If you like a softer ski for the park, I think the scratches will do the trick. The fugitives aren't bad either, they flex like warm butter. I'm on the east coast so i really don't need a ski thats very stiff for all-mt. My FS's really get the job done except maybe when it's extremely icey. If your hell bent on getting the scratches, go for it.



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Jul 17 2005 4:18PM
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paprika
Posts: 360 - Karma: 10
Im nearly 100% sure that you havent even tried any Dynastar skis. Ive owned and tested a lot of skis, nearly all twin tips that have ever come out and in my book, Dynastar make some durable and good quality ones for what I do. And which ones are better? Salomon, those pieces of shit with the greatest invetion ever foam cores that snap like twigs if you actually try and push them to the limits, Rossi which for me feel like noodles cause theyre so soft. I personally like them cause for what I do is good, and they are actaully a company whos riders use the same skis as the ones you can get off of the shelves, unlike Solly whos riders acutally use quality skis while they sell shit to the public. So man, I didnt come here to hate on other companies to prove a point I said what I did to show the kid what I know and since Ive skied the 2006s already I know what they are like. So kid, if your really into getting Scratch, GET THEM, but if your not gonna go crazy on rails and shit and not bust the shit out of the edges and you preffer stiffer skis and difficult terrain such as trees then get TMs.

Jul 18 2005 3:33PM
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J.D.
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Hahaha, wow, aren't you important, already skiing the 2006s... I have a newsflash: people have been skiing the 2006s for 2 years now, with different graphics. The fact that you claim to have exhaustively tested a variety of twins, having gone through Salo and Rossi, makes me laugh. I've demoed TMs, they're nothing special, and since I like fat skis I'd never ride the damn things even if they were bombproof... but they're exactly the opposite. I think the best example ever of Dyna durability on here was expressed when Kyle Johnson (rides / used to ride for Faction... have you skiied those? Didn't think so, stop claiming to have skiied every twin ever) sold a pair of Phil pros that he'd had for about a week and a half and had completely destroyed in that time period. Dynastar: people who actually use their skis need not apply.

Jul 18 2005 3:44PM
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paprika
Posts: 360 - Karma: 10
Firstly, I never said I was special or anything like that just cause I have 06 skis. Secondly, I was just making a point of the dude who was talking out of his ass about Dynastar. Oh and do you thing I give two fucks about some guy I dont even know or heard about who busted his in a week, no. Oh and you like fat skis? Gee, would owning Pistols and Legends make me one who does too? Listen man, all I said was they were durable for me, and yes I have push all of mine to the limit and they havent borken. I never said they were bombproof, just good for what I do, and I actually do find them better than Pistols.

Jul 18 2005 3:59PM
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-AR_Seven-
Posts: 553 - Karma: 10
How the fuck can you even COMPARE those skis to pistols or legends? Pistols are completely different shape, width and flex pattern, and legends are race room built. If you can actually say "TMs are better than pistols for me" with a straight face, I'd say you're the one talking out of his ass... and you should probably sell your obviously underappreciated Pistols. Dynastar is aware of their construction problems, and they've done nothing about it. They will continue to do nothing next year as they introduce new essentially identical skis like the DC. When Dynastar starts to actually make an effort to keep up with other companies' new developments, maybe I'll have some respect for them... I mean, fuck, even ROSSIGNOL redesigned their skis this year, and they never change shit... Dynastar needs an overhaul in the freestyle department. Badly.

Jul 18 2005 4:21PM
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DHogg
Posts: 3462 - Karma: 235
I loved the first scatch fs(the red 1) but i think there getting worse. The flex pattern on the TM's is sick so i'd get those but if your doing heaps of rails, stay away from dynastar.

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Jul 18 2005 5:35PM
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CollinWright
Posts: 1919 - Karma: 82
the new scratch fs is pretty stiff

Jul 18 2005 5:36PM
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DHogg
Posts: 3462 - Karma: 235
^yeah i think thats why i like the old ones better

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Jul 18 2005 5:54PM
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paprika
Posts: 360 - Karma: 10
I was never even comparing them and would obviously never even think of it because they are in totally different leagues. All I was saying is that I have them and I do prefer these TMs over the Pistols and its not like I dont appreciate my Pistols cause I really do love them and used to ski them so much my Legends looked like new at the end of the season. I also have great respect for K2 cause they have awsome fucking skis and I will probably even get the Vicious next year when they are on sale. So when I was saying that "tms are better for me" its cause I personally feel that way in the type of skiing I do and in the type of skis I like, in the way they flex and shit. I will agree that their edges arent the greatest but I dont care about that cause its not a concern for me and as far as I have seen they have performed great for me. Its all about personal decisions man, someone can even like an all mountain ski over something thats like $500 just cause of the skiing they do. So lets end this fucking shit, lineskier129, research your skis, know what you will be skiing, find what you like and dislike in skis, and then make an informed decision man.

Jul 18 2005 6:18PM
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