To any nser that has ever made an edit:

sorry question one should read "what makes the best professional edits"







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1. What makes the professional skier segments edits? Keep in mind skiing, filming and editing?
Well the skiing is number 1. Next I guess the shots have to look good so thats important. Editing is last because a poorly edited segment can still be good. In some cases though the editing makes it good.


2. What makes the best amateur edits?
Seeing people like you doing stuff like the pros.


3. When seeking out media to see skiers in action, what form do you normally go for? Ski films, competitions, events on tv, magazines, etc?
Newschoolers



4. why did you produce a segment style edit? Why not something different?
Its interesting and fun.


5. in terms of the way you shot and edited your short, where did you get your filmmaking ideas from?
I guess other ski movies.


6. why did you select the music that you did? If it was already in another ski film, why did you use the same music? Did you pick music that was similar to certain ski films? Why?
I picked it because I liked it. Some of it was in other ski movies, mostly because of coincidence.



7. To what degree do you feel that you were influenced by professional ski films?
Not much.


8. Do you think you are emulating (copying, imitating to produce something of equal quality) professional ski films?
I guess I use the same format so yes.


9. If you answered yes to no. 8, why do you do this?
It's easy and what everyone else does.


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1. What makes the professional skier segments edits? Keep in mind skiing, filming and editing?

Originality. Originality in the tricks, doing things no one does, even if it's not especially hard i enjoy watching it. Music that goes with the skiing, if the segment has a certain style to it, I would expect the music to match. Original filming is extremely important, by this I mean good angles, background scenery, integrating other shots, etc. (example: the helecopter follow cams in Yearbook) Editing is somehow less important in professional films than amateur films, but originality again is the main thing that makes the editing good. Usually with films I will watch it the first few times for the skiing, but the editing is what I notice any time past that.

2. What makes the best amateur edits?

Also originality, not necessarily groundbreaking tricks. Unique editing, music selections, and filming are what makes the best amateur edits.

3. When seeking out media to see skiers in action, what form do you normally go for? Ski films, competitions, events on tv, magazines, etc?

Ski films, and the edits section of newschoolers.

4. why did you produce a segment style edit? Why not something different?

For the one I'm referencing I did not, simply because I didn't have enough footage. I like the organization in normal segment style films, and that you can determine who is who by the style of their segment.

5. in terms of the way you shot and edited your short, where did you get your filmmaking ideas from?

I would say skating videos, not necessarily the professionals, but local skate videos done by older kids.

6. why did you select the music that you did? If it was already in another ski film, why did you use the same music? Did you pick music that was similar to certain ski films? Why?

Not that much thought went into my choice for this one, but I picked a song off of a Kleptones cd I had recently downloaded because it seemed like a good and easy song to edit to.

7. To what degree do you feel that you were influenced by professional ski films?

For this edit, hardly at all. The only thing I could think of is the tricks, but I would do them whether I was making an edit or not.

8. Do you think you are emulating (copying, imitating to produce something of equal quality) professional ski films?

No, not at all really. I would try to make it the best quality I could, but I'm not trying to copy ski films at all. At least with this edit.

9. If you answered yes to no. 8, why do you do this?


the edit is called "this one might work" in my profile
I wouldnt say this edit is the best I could do, but the best that's accessable now.


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"girls are like pigs. they have four legs and make sounds, and if you kick them in the side they will get mad at you" -Jacob_W

I make my own edits and play around at home with my limited filming, and though i am not superb, i can contribute.

1.) The best edits are a combination of the three elements you mentioned. A balance produces the best segment. A segment can be good with 1-2 elements but it is a bit of each one that rounds off the perfect part. The part must include skiing that is both unique, and showcases how that person differs from the rest of the pack. This includes either new tricks in new areas, or taking a normal trick, and showing how that persons style changes it. Next is angles and location. A creative angle can add a lot more to a shot, but at the same time something too creative can destroy a shot. Sometimes it's good to see the shots seem a little more raw so they are easier to relate to, and easier to see. Finally the editing and music is key. The order of the shots, the right effects, and the timing to the proper music.

2.)As said before, good amateur edits are good because they showcase someone (possibly unknown) doing things you see in professional videos, however the low quality gives a feel that is easier to relate to.

3.)Newschoolers could be considered an online magazine.

4.)umm, can i skip?

5.)when trying new angles or edits (not that i am good at either) i am inspired by shots that blew me away. These are the shots that you had to rewind and play back, or stare at in a magazine for awhile. Mimicking those shots is the first step, then adding your own twist makes it slightly unique.

6.)Select the music because it flows. Flow is important.Using previously used music is really understandable. You've seen it related to skiing in a video, when you hear the song again, you continue to relate it to skiing. CNN - Invincible still keeps me thinking of skiing.

7.)Professional ski films are inspiring towards skiing. When it comes to making your own movie, it is successful amateur videos which inspire me most.

8.)My edits are short and private to me, and are just different twists on shots, with different effects and music. In no way can my edits relate to a ski film.

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1. What makes the professional skier segments edits? Keep in mind skiing, filming and editing?

Honestly, I think at the moment, skiing is number one, and pretty much the only thing I look at when watching professional movies. This is bad. I feel that editing and filming should be equally important, mainly filming, as withou good filming good editing is barely possible anyways.

Good, original shots that don't look contrived and big budget( like MSP for example which I dont like, despite their origiinality), shoudl be the standard for skiing parts. When I watch some skate or snowboard movies, they actually think abotu their shots, creatively and artistically.



2. What makes the best amateur edits?

Pretty much the same thing as professional videos. I feel that in skateboarding especially, some of the amateur edits I have seen are much more artistic. This is most likely due to the skater's ability being sub par to that of the professional level. For this reason, the filmer and editor need to compensate for the subpar skating by actually putting effort into their shots and editing.

This is not always the case however, as most of the time bad skiing or skating is accompanied by bad editing and filming.



3. When seeking out media to see skiers in action, what form do you normally go for? Ski films, competitions, events on tv, magazines, etc?

Definitely videos, videos are by far the most engrossing way for me. It's just much more exciting to see a skier do something than to read about it. Also, the direction in which skiers progress in their parts (backcountry and urban) are the only parts of skiing I feel a professional should concern themselves with. Competitions are much less important to me. I feel competitions are just a way for athletes to show who who can land which tricks every time, defintiely not a way to show what skeirs are capable of or how the sport is moving.



4. why did you produce a segment style edit? Why not something different?

Segments are useful because they keep the same feel or flow going, also while keeping the same athlete in one section, thus making it easier to tell who is doing what. Every athlete has their own feel and flow, as well as style. Having a segment style edit is certainly beneficial in shwoing off that athlete's personality and style. I think other styles of segmenting movies and films could be developped, I just havn't thought of any yet.



5. in terms of the way you shot and edited your short, where did you get your filmmaking ideas from?

Skating movies, skiing movies, my creative mind. Photography class. Rule of thirds. Design experience.



6. why did you select the music that you did? If it was already in another ski film, why did you use the same music? Did you pick music that was similar to certain ski films? Why?

I picked rap music because it flows with the style that the skiers in my segment are representing. Also, since this edit is a teaser, I wanted the song to be exhilerating and exciting. The thumping beat of the song I chose certainly accomplished this.

Adressing the second issue, I am thoroughly against reusing a song you have heard in another movie, no matter what. WE want variety in the industry or artform, not teh same thing over and over.



7. To what degree do you feel that you were influenced by professional ski films?

I feel I was certainly influenced in that the shots and style of music are similar to alot of other skiing movies. I used the standard lifestyle shots and white flashes. Some people say that since skiing is such a limited sport in terms of content, that most skiing films will always include timelapses and lifestyle shots as we always see. I am in grave disagreement to this. I believe that a skiing movie can be anything we want it to be, and there is no limit. We just need to think outside the box. I am personally dissapointed with the lack of originality in my edit.



8. Do you think you are emulating (copying, imitating to produce something of equal quality) professional ski films?

I am certainly not copying them in any direct form, but yes, the basic concepts are all there, and I probably could have gone further to distinguish our teaser from all the others out there.

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1. What makes the professional skier segments edits? Keep in mind skiing, filming and editing?
Filming - Clear, properly exposed film, smooth camera movements

Skiing - Impressive tricks, good style, exotic/unusual locations

Editing - Goes with the music, most professional films have lots of lifestyle type shots too. Lots of good/creative transitions

2. What makes the best amateur edits?
High level skiing from unknown skiers

3. When seeking out media to see skiers in action, what form do you normally go for? Ski films, competitions, events on tv, magazines, etc?
Ski films, videos on NS, videos on other sites like SASfilms

4. why did you produce a segment style edit? Why not something different?
Because it works, and because people are used to it and like it.

5. in terms of the way you shot and edited your short, where did you get your filmmaking ideas from?
I really like the flow of L1P movies, so probably that is an influence. Also, just from my own ideas.

6. why did you select the music that you did? If it was already in another ski film, why did you use the same music? Did you pick music that was similar to certain ski films? Why?
I just picked music that I personally like, and thought it would go with skiing.


7. To what degree do you feel that you were influenced by professional ski films?
to a moderate degree

8. Do you think you are emulating (copying, imitating to produce something of equal quality) professional ski films?
I am influenced by them, yes, but I am not trying to emulate them.

In case you want to see it, this is my edit I am referring to.





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of course, i had to screw up the bold stuff, and the hyperlink....gah. sorry. anyways, this the URL if you need it. https://www.newschoolers.com/PHP/Videos/Uploaded/8883HoodSkiCompressed.wmv

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awesome guys, keep it coming, this is important towards supporting my paper and fulfilling one of the research requirements. if the paper is decent then i'll post it, even though few people will read it (it'll probably be around 10 pages double spaced when i'm finished)







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