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REACTORS discontinued????

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Magnum
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What's the deal? Heard this from a couple of, well, "reliable" sources. Anybody got the scoop?

Apr 22 2005 11:41AM
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rodadeaco
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try www.lineskis.com maybe?


big whoop wanna fight about it?
Apr 22 2005 11:43AM
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Campeador
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its a possibility. from what i have heard they have not been the greatest bindings, very heavy too.


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Apr 22 2005 11:45AM
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waynewong
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the concept is awsome but the product was not reliable....good customer service from what I understand, everyone who busted them always got a replacement...but they broke alot

Apr 22 2005 11:51AM
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J.D.
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If this happened, every other binding manufacturer would be cracking out the champagne and dancing with joy, because a concept that might represent the future of ski bindings would have died. Pray it never happens.

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Apr 22 2005 12:09PM
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freeskinow
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yea such a sick concept if they could just get some lighter material into the design and work out the kinks




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Apr 22 2005 12:33PM
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waynewong
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^all skis should go to inserts...so much easier to travel...no more mid night drill session with jimmy rigged jigs that dont quite fit the skis...

Apr 22 2005 12:36PM
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Rowdy2
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^Isn't that the point? They released the binding WAY too early for it to have been successful. With such a radical concept, there are twice as many things that can go wrong, so you need twice the amount of testing, right?

I just think they rushed it...

Apr 22 2005 12:38PM
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skifiend
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I couldn't agree with JD more...but Line has a lot of work to do with this concept and the execution of the product


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Apr 22 2005 12:44PM
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hellmut
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who are these reliable sources?




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Apr 22 2005 12:47PM
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acc
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doubtful. as jd said, one day it will be the greatest binding, it's just going to take time.

Apr 22 2005 12:54PM
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Magnum
Posts: 78 - Karma: 10
Just some people I know in the industry, who I normally would trust, but this seems so off the wall.

No naming names, I don't want get into a pissing match, just wondered if anyone has some facts. Anybody from Line on NS?

Apr 22 2005 12:56PM
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montageskier
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i dont think ur peopleare in the indusrty because i have seen of the 06 bindings in action. They felt like they were a little lighter.

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Apr 22 2005 1:02PM
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Rom
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The reactor will be back next year with some serious improvements. They will have new materials for better durability and a lot of slight tweaks in construction for more reliable release.

Apr 22 2005 1:07PM
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Magnum
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Just because they have 06 samples out doesn't mean they couldn't cancel the program at any time.

Just looking for facts

Apr 22 2005 1:08PM
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mountsnowgirl
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the Reactor is back. They are already bein tested on mountains near you. The release works great. And line is working out the kink with the brakes

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Apr 22 2005 1:18PM
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Hctiws_iks
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im pretty sure they will be coming out,
the binding is much stronger for next year,
and will be a legitimate choice.

Also, many other binding companies are
now developing bindings with a similar type of release.


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Apr 22 2005 1:45PM
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hiatus
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The Reactor will be discontinued next year, but Line may use Look designs and continue to market a binding.

Apr 22 2005 2:54PM
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kyle-decker
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I skied the reactors all this season urban and park and they treated me very well. hmmm...

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Apr 22 2005 2:57PM
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tandan83
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i hope this doesnt happen b/c the older i get, the more appealing these bindings become



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Apr 22 2005 3:00PM
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MdanteL
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there's already an 06 out so i dont believe there being discontinued

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Apr 22 2005 3:34PM
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B-Wald
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they're in the 05/06 catalog.
the only difference was a new paintjob it looked like.

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Apr 22 2005 3:35PM
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Hctiws_iks
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^ they changed the bindings construction alot

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Apr 22 2005 3:38PM
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MdanteL
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^^^ that may b true, but i tlkad to sum who was riding them, n they said they feel the same (still suk, but great concept)

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Apr 22 2005 3:41PM
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albatross.
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"but Line may use Look designs and continue to market a binding."+inserts=$

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Apr 22 2005 3:42PM
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MdanteL
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o really, tat would b amazing if LINE came out with a Look design, where'd u get that info from?

East Coast.
Apr 22 2005 3:45PM
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albatross.
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I was just copying what the guy above me said, and saying that if they had look inserts it would be dope. Look design or just a polished reactor - the 06 binding will be good fo'sh.

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Apr 22 2005 3:56PM
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Hctiws_iks
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well if ya dont like em ya dont like em,
but they wont break like they used to,

personally i like look pivot style binding,
but the lines are safer

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Apr 22 2005 4:05PM
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$1080PLP$
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Click for larger image

racers have had this idea for a while it looks like, vist (4frnts binding maker) makes a SpeedLock TT plate (one example) that you can mount forward or backwards depending on conditions.

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the pins used to hold them in the the plate.

i wonder if 4frnt will start intergrating these holes into thier skis for "quick mount" abilities with their bindings. but who know if that many holes would work on a ski with out weaking the ski. and how would you mount other bindings with that many holes interfearing.



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Apr 22 2005 4:15PM
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Jib_This
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^you need the plate for that to work, and you must be running a matching VIST speedlock binding. You wouldn't be able to run any other binding.

Apr 22 2005 4:21PM
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UTmeathead
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^They use that system on their demo skis.

Do you really NEED inserts (speaking of Line's idea), I don't see how they help?

Apr 22 2005 4:30PM
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$1080PLP$
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thats its only problem but wait the reacors set on a plate the plate is 18mm high and the reactors set atleats 20mm to 25mm off the ski (just a rough mesurment i did on mine) so all together i doubt its much higher then the reactor and deff lower then the reactor with the fredom plate. but yeah i would rather have the LIne 4 bolt system with like 3 choices of mounting poisitions.



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Apr 22 2005 4:34PM
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skibio5
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i HIGHLY doubt they are being discontinued. and i mean REALLY HIGHLY doubt

Apr 22 2005 4:51PM
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Astomp
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they arent. my boss at work ordered some like last month to sell at the shop i work at for next seasons. your reliable sources suck.

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Apr 22 2005 6:01PM
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hiatus
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My reliable sources are a better source than your boss, trust me. The Reactor will be discontinued.

Apr 22 2005 6:07PM
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trevorwoulddoit
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This is total BS.



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Apr 22 2005 6:12PM
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estaked
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ha ok sure ok ya i belive u so much....

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Apr 22 2005 6:14PM
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J-squared
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Here's the final word on this, so there will be no more speculation.

The Reactor is NOT discontinued or cancelled for next year. Reactors will be delivered to your shops in the fall.

We are cancelling the Camo Team version because there were not enough orders from shops. If you're pissed or upset at this, don't tell me, tell your shop who was too afraid to buy a camo binding.

Lastly, UTMeathead, it is a fact that inserts are 4x stronger in tensile pull strength than wood screws. In all the years we've been selling skis with inserts I have NEVER seen one pulled out of a ski. Additionally, because a shop tech doesn't drill the holes and then screw the bindings in with a screw gun the chance that your bindings we're misdrilled/mismounted at the shop is eliminated. Lastly, by having inserts you are able to own one set of bindings and multiple sets of skis. I have on several occassions changed skis mid-day in under two minutes with a simple philips head screw driver. This also makes travelling with multiple skis a lighter, easier endeavor. I'm not sure what you don't get.

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Apr 22 2005 6:25PM
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Flynn
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And now the question is, is a line employee more reliable than a reliable source. The world may never know. I vote for jordan.

Apr 22 2005 6:45PM
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skieveryday
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I would have to agree with Mr. Judd.

The ONLY stipulation that I have with the Line binding system is the mounting limitations. Only one location is available for mounting with Line's Reactor/Ski setup, this seems to leave mounting options (forward, back, mid) a little bit less forgiving.

I'll have to admit though...making the system as versatile as taking them off with a phillips screw driver and changing skis mid day (spending time out back then in the park after lunch) is a beautiful thing. Not to mention, the system saves buyers butloads of money.

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Apr 22 2005 7:03PM
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twix_182
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^i believe i saw some picture of prototypes a few months back with 2 insert settings. i dunno though.

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Apr 22 2005 7:08PM
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Switchstyle
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i think its great and may buy them...

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Apr 22 2005 7:48PM
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bret
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yeah several (maybe even all) '06 lines have 6 holes to move the mounting around a little bit.




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Apr 22 2005 8:00PM
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papasteeze
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did someone say the '06 is lighter? No more need for rebuilding knees this year - Thanks LINE!

Apr 22 2005 8:05PM
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Ryno
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yeah they had a pic of prototypes on there front page with an 8 hole grid (2 mounting postions) but i dont think thats going to fly on the new skis.

i think its a great idea though. if the binding can be switched that fast why not make a center mount pattern for park and then 1 or 2 farther back options for BC or just crusing

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Apr 22 2005 8:26PM
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skibio5
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i heard that was just for the big mountain skis, like the motherships or the prophets, just so you can get waaay back on the ski. i do think it would be a very good idea to have the six hole inserts, just further up, so you could center mount if you wanted to. that would rule

Apr 22 2005 8:56PM
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destroy
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my main complaint about the binding is that they make your foot so high off the ski.

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Apr 22 2005 10:19PM
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HuckerGently
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nice concept, they need work, but check out this video, its pretty sweet
http://www.lineskis.com/products/video/mov.php?video=binding

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Apr 22 2005 11:05PM
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freeskier1316
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not happening


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Apr 23 2005 12:34AM
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guddgulf17
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i think hiatus got cleaned out. the release mechinism on the reactor is amazing, it just selfdestructs, and your knees stay perfectly healthy.

lucky you got stuck on NS though, it's like, porn, only betterer.-Bangor
Apr 23 2005 12:42AM
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ski_and_distroy
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THERE POOPED

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Apr 23 2005 12:45AM
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