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skodeo7
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I know its a touchy subject and all but what are all your feelings on what should be done? Some people think that it should be a holiday (sorta like D-day and such) but I dunno about that. Some think we should just go on as usual.

We were just talking about it in school today and I was wondering what you guys (and girls) feelings are about it?
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Sep 3 2002 8:52PM
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BrodyLeven
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yeah we were talking too.
all i've heard is small things like leaving the headlights on and such.

i relly dont know. it's gonna be touchy, so we have to be careful and we have to make sure its way respectful

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Sep 3 2002 8:53PM
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Ski_Instructor_Mike
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I think there are worse occurances that everyone fails to recognize. Making it a national holiday would be ignorant to everything that has happened in the past.
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Sep 3 2002 8:54PM
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Ski_Instructor_Mike
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sorry if that came off very cold... but you see my point.
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Sep 3 2002 8:56PM
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mtw
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If we had a holiday for every day some big tragedy happens, we'd start running out of work days. Hmm...
Sep 3 2002 9:14PM
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--J()nes--
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Sept 11 is my birthday...kinda a weird day for me...




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Sep 3 2002 9:16PM
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skodeo7
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I actually have heard of a lot of people with that birthday, that chick from the real world had her birthday on septmber 11, a bunch of people I know have it on sept 11, must be sorta awkward.
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Sep 3 2002 9:18PM
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--J()nes--
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ya like i wanna feel happy and get drunk but i dont think its right...




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Sep 3 2002 9:23PM
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CTripper
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maybe light a candle for everyone that night, but making it a holiday seems too much.
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Sep 3 2002 9:40PM
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lineskier321
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newschooler14's birthday is sept 11 too

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Sep 3 2002 9:54PM
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CrazyChica
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we're having like, a million services all over the place... but the schools still are doing everything; all the sports have their first meets/matches/games that day, but they're having like, moments of silence and whatnot. i think its something that people should respect, and if they can at least do that much, then whatever.



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Sep 3 2002 11:04PM
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witchbaby666
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I'm going to take time out of my day to remember where I was when it happened.





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sorry. I agree with lighting a candle or many candles, etc., but a holiday seems a bit , i don't know.... a bit much.





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Sep 3 2002 11:18PM
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kevywevy
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i think that someday it will become a holliday, but not any time soon. but i think there should be and there probably will be a 5 min. moment of silence.


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Sep 3 2002 11:46PM
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Steel_Rabbit
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I think it should be a holiday...I got nothing else to say...Oh yah how bout this instead of doing some crazy new artsy fartsy building we build the exact same buildings again. That'll be the ultimate defiance to those terrorist bastards.

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Sep 4 2002 12:42AM
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westcoaststyle
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itd be waaaay too expensive to rebuild em. i think the guy that owns the property is just gonna make a regular size building there and reconnect the road they blocked to build one of the towers
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Sep 4 2002 5:06AM
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Lanemeyers
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If they had a holiday, everyone would just get drunk! That's what everyone does on holidays, that is innappropriate. A moment of silence is more fitting! Like what we have in Canada for Rememberance Day. 11th month, 11th day, 11th hour type shit! We always paid attention to that stuff!
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Sep 4 2002 8:54AM
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gravteck
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yea I know 2 girls who's bday is 9-11. I think they were talking about making it a holiday next year, not this year. And there are holidays where people don't get drunk... MLK and President's day. Shit Russia has days honoring there people who died in WWII... any idea how many that is, nearly 30 million, it's something like 29,629,20.
Sep 4 2002 11:40AM
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Lanemeyers
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I guess us Canadians take a holiday as a day to stagger. Shucks!

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Sep 4 2002 12:06PM
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Prins
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don't think it should be a holiday, i'm sorry if any of you lost someone. It wasn't bad enough to validate a holiday of it's own. Pearl Harbor isn't a holliday, so why should this be. while 3000 people is alot it isn't very many in the scope of things. Something like 200,000 are born every day. Russia loosing 30 milllion is a HUGE impact on them. Memorial services are good because it will help people deal with and REMEMBER what happened (face it, some people don't think about it at least once a day, hence have already forgoten in common terms).

I also feel that something worse will happen. While the hijacking was a very visible example of the power, and cowardis, of there people. The next thing, I think, will be very suddal and have a huge impact. Like the plauge that hit europe in the 1400's and killed 1/3 of the world population. All they would need to do is find a way to drop it off and get it going. I think I actualy hate biology so I'm not sure on that. ya I really got off track.
Sep 4 2002 5:30PM
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newschooler14
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yea there are tons of people at my school with sept 11 for a birthday and me too. In my science class last year was when the buidling collapsed and two other people had sept 11 as a birthday. This year is wierd cause i want to go and get really baked but at the same time no one will do anything really so ill wait a couple days but its my 16th birthday. Im not sure if it should be a holiday or not we have pearl harbor day? I dont think it should be like get off work but something official to be printed on calendars and everything. In time people will not remember this as well, I know lots of people who didnt think much of pearl harbor until seeing that movie and stuff. So i think we should do sometiuhng



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Sep 4 2002 5:57PM
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jibs
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I could see the one year aniversary as being a worthwhile holiday..but just that day, because much of the pain is still there, and people are really going to want the time to remember. After that, it should just be a normal day...reflect on it or something, but it's not a holiday.


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Sep 4 2002 6:27PM
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newschooler14
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Prins I agree I was in a hurry to post that first time so I skipped the last few posts but I think they enxt time they attack it will be much much worse. And everyone was all on edge right after wainting for another attack but they do stuff every couple years instead of all at once so there are a certain number of active cells so capturing and killing osama bin laden wouldnt help much with that.





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Sep 4 2002 7:40PM
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schlonginator
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sept 11 = 9/11
911 = emergency

weird coincidence??
Sep 4 2002 7:48PM
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--J()nes--
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911 thing is dumb, people can make anything out of anything...yes its just a coinsi...thingy i cant spell that i used all my brains at school




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Sep 4 2002 7:59PM
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newschooler14
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yea i dont think there was any meaning bhind it at all. Like after it happened i remember people posting all these wierd coincidences about like afghanistan and new yourk being the wsame number of letters or something but i doubt that terrorists look at how mnay letters a city has before doing something to it



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Sep 4 2002 8:31PM
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SkierX
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No holiday. As was stated, the date of Pearl Harbor is not recognized as a true holiday, despite it leading to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of american lives after the war ended (remember this was the final straw that drew us into full fledged war). So honoring 9/11 as a holiday, but not December 7th is a disgrace in itself.
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Sep 4 2002 8:53PM
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roswel
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what i am about to say may indeed hit a nerve but that is my right.

i think a holiday is out of the question. not only would it be-little other important moments in history but it is simply ridiculous to have a day off because of a tragedy. do you need one 24 hour period a year to remember what happened?

i remember all the time, and not because of the impact it had on me but because how could you forget it. it's all over the place. they started the t.v. specials last week. there are much more important things to be done on 9/11 than to take a day off. if there were to be a holiday do you think the military or police would get it?

the best way to deal with this is privately. everyone needs to examine themselves and where they stand on these issues and decide for yourselves what to do. THAT is the freedom you have because of others. a moment of silence may be well and good but take a second to really think who you are remembering. is it the innocent people who died, because hundreds of thousands die every day all over the world. is it the attack on YOUR way of life that scares you because in all fairness i think we as group have life pretty fucking good. you want to remember the 'heroes' of 9/11? it certainly isn't the inoocent people who died in the towers. dying in a group of 3000 or more doesn't automatically qualify you as a hero.

if anything should be done it should be in memory of those who risked and ultimately lost there lives trying to save another.

me? i'm gonna take a moment and reflect on my freedom. i'll probably take out my skis and grab a pint, sit down and thank the stars that i can take out my skis and grab a pint.





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Sep 4 2002 9:20PM
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PhattTim
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Yah I think a day of remembrence and mourning for sure, but perhaps not a holiday. As someone else said, if there was a holiday for every terrible thing that happened then there would be no work days. In a hundred years or so it won't really be quite such a significant event. It will become history, like D-Day, Pearl Harbour, the civil war. Something that no living person at the time will have been a part of. Just a part of history that the population will work to prevent from ever happening again.

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Sep 4 2002 9:28PM
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vegabond
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meh, i not being disrespectful, but in most countries, losing 8000 people in a day is pretty normal. if the U.S. government would stop starting wars for economical reasons and brainwashing their population about it, they wouldnt have the terrorist problem to start with

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Sep 4 2002 10:05PM
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lagwagon
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my birthday is may 10
one day before the day that that happened in september, man i reckon they should have a day off for that.
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Sep 5 2002 12:53AM
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PhattSarah
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Our TV stations are all going to be playing memorials. I'm not going to watch it, because I'm sick of watching the planes plunging into the buildings. I think that it is insensitive, because that is the moment that thousands of people lost their lives. They wouldn't show footage of someone being shot in the head 50,000 times over would they?
Also, I'm not being insensitive, I know what happened is bad, I felt horrible. Someone pointed this out on TV last night- when there was a massive tidal wave in Papua New Guinea and 14,000 people were killed, did anyone really give a stuff? I know it was terrible, but because it is America, and my country is a western country, it feels like we all have to become Americans for the day.
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Sep 5 2002 2:04AM
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kwoodhucka
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i don't think it will become a holiday, in the US we like to celebrate victories, memorial day used to be VE day (victory in europe), 4th of july is obviously independance day, you don't see us celebrating pulling out of vietnam or the stalemate of the korean war. sure we should take some time to think about what happened, but a holiday would be pushing the limits, plus the US would like to keep the delusion going that we are and will always be the best, having a holiday for the 11th would just undermine that. and how would we stay so stuck up if we had a holiday reminding us that we're vulnerable?

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Sep 5 2002 2:23AM
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Prins
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for those that didn't catch it on the news, it is now a holiday, Patriot Day i believe is the title they gave it. That kind of pisses me off.
Sep 7 2002 2:14AM
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sirjibsalot
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it wont become a holiday cause its sort of a grim day...it would be dope if we got a day off but usually holidays are to celebrate something and this isnt the sort of thing you celebrate
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Sep 7 2002 2:30AM
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kwoodhucka
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great, now everyone will show their fake patriotism and plaster flags on their cars and houses and wear all kinds of red white and blue. it'll be sickening.

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Sep 7 2002 2:54AM
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Zode
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Holidays celebrate things. Over 2000 people got mercilessly killed on Sept 11. What's there to celebrate? I mean the day should be remembered and all...but a holiday?



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Sep 7 2002 3:09AM
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123ski
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well i was born on friday the 13th, actually my birthday is on friday the 13th this year also, next week


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Sep 7 2002 3:24AM
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dez22
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i feel really bad for the people who lost someone in that catastraphy, but lets face it, alot worse stuff in the world has and is happening.
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Sep 7 2002 10:57AM
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Line1260
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fuck this patriotism bulshit. i think it is one thing to be proud of hte liberties provided and secured to you be the us government. it is another thing to wear fdny, nypd, 911 shirts and the like whilst flying large american flags from the back of your pick up truck. enough on that one.

i will be in nyc, and am at a friends appt. in jersey right now for holidays in the sun.911 seems to be a large reason for the unity shown here, and the bands are fucking great. i will probably end up in nyc for the 11th. there is supposed to be a big tributs show that punkcore is putting on in nyc that night, but im not sure about it yet


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Sep 7 2002 7:46PM
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sugarloafer1990
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yea, theres too much going on with this shit. Let it be. It was tragic. Do we have a holiday for pearl harbor. no. then why have it for this. this has 9/11 has been made the biggest deal, it is a huge deal, but i can see why a lot of people hate our country. and when a lot of countries hate us, something is bound to happen.










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Sep 7 2002 8:09PM
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Ski_Instructor_Mike
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exactly like a said before. making it an annual holiday is shamefull to every other tragic incedent.

Prins did they make it an annual holiday? or just for this year?

if it is just a one time thing then I can understand. If not then I guess the gov. made the 'right' decision for them, it puts them in a better light with the general population.
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Sep 7 2002 8:16PM
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ESB
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It's too bad that as the most powerful force in the world, the United States gets to write the histories. Why is Pearl Harbor (2,403 dead) more important than Hiroshima and Nagasaki (combined 120,000 dead). AND WHO REMEMBERS DRESDEN? The night of February 13-14, 1945... U.S. and British planes dropped 650,000 incendiary bombs over Dresden a city with no war industry and little military vaule, creating a firecloud of eight square miles and killing roughly 135,000 civilians. 135,000 people dead. That's 45 people for every one of the WTC deaths.

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