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Which wax to use

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TheGhostlySheep
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So I'm going to les deux alpes in france in a week. I need to wax my skis before the trip but I'm not really sure what wax to use. I've had a look at the weather forecast and currently the temps are very cold (between -10 and -20 (Celsius)). It's supposed to warm up when I'm out but the temperature varies quite a bit between the base and higher up the mountain, seems to be generally betweem 0 and -15 during the day.

I have 2 waxes available to me. One rated at 15 to -8 and one -10 to -30 and I'm not sure which one to use. The other option is for me to order a universal all temp wax such as this one I found on amazon: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Datawax-DataWax-Universal-Ski-Wax/dp/B00AKYRUMW/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=ski+wax&qid=1638473577&sr=8-5.

However, I've heard that all temperature waxes aren't great for powder/ anything that isn't groomed. I've also heard that it's better to use a wax for cold weather in warmer weather than it is to use a wax for warmer weather in cold weather?

I have no idea how much truth there is to either of those claims hence why I'm asking here.

Which wax should I go for?
What happens if I use the -10 to -30 wax in warmer weather?
What happens if I use the 15 to -8 wax in colder weather?
Dec 2 2021 2:36PM 1 0
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BradFiAusNzCoCa
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If I remember correctly, wax is most important when it’s super cold or super warm and slushy. I usually just use swix all temp glide wax and don’t fret too much. I’m sure you’ll get all sorts of answers but the reality is that we are not racing on the World Cup circuit. It’s important your skis are waxed but I don’t get too caught up with the type of wax as long as my base isn’t dry
Dec 2 2021 4:06PM 1 0
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CaIeb
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@dolanslebensraum could write you a novel about sintered base technology and science, as well as the best wax
Dec 2 2021 5:59PM 2 0
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mrk127
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See mods banning @dolanslebensraum is already negatively impacting the community, he can't enlighten us with his wax and base knowledge.

Anyways, you're right about generally wanting to error on the side of using a colder (harder) wax. But also you want to use a harder wax in more abrasive snow, think fresh pow, man-made snow, dirty snow, ect. All temp wax is usually fairly hard so I gotta say your claim about all temp being bad for pow and off piste is false. If you are looking for a new bar of universal wax I think this stuff is bomb https://the-raceplace.com/collections/beast-ski-wax/products/beast-1-everyday-glide-wax It's somewhat thermo-reactive. The stuff you linked looks ok for a cheap low-fluoro wax but fluoro wax really isn't necessary unless its really wet and humid conditions imo. @dolanslebensraum would disagree with me about the fluoros.
Dec 6 2021 11:44PM 3 0
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Turd__Authority
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TheGhostlySheepSo I'm going to les deux alpes in france in a week. I need to wax my skis before the trip but I'm not really sure what wax to use. I've had a look at the weather forecast and currently the temps are very cold (between -10 and -20 (Celsius)). It's supposed to warm up when I'm out but the temperature varies quite a bit between the base and higher up the mountain, seems to be generally betweem 0 and -15 during the day.

I have 2 waxes available to me. One rated at 15 to -8 and one -10 to -30 and I'm not sure which one to use. The other option is for me to order a universal all temp wax such as this one I found on amazon: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Datawax-DataWax-Universal-Ski-Wax/dp/B00AKYRUMW/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=ski+wax&qid=1638473577&sr=8-5.

However, I've heard that all temperature waxes aren't great for powder/ anything that isn't groomed. I've also heard that it's better to use a wax for cold weather in warmer weather than it is to use a wax for warmer weather in cold weather?

I have no idea how much truth there is to either of those claims hence why I'm asking here.

Which wax should I go for?
What happens if I use the -10 to -30 wax in warmer weather?
What happens if I use the 15 to -8 wax in colder weather?

Go 15 to - 8. If you're not racing and if you have to ask this question, you're not gonna notice a difference. Your skis will still glide. We are talking small differences.
Dec 7 2021 11:18AM 3 0
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Session
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mrk127See mods banning @dolanslebensraum is already negatively impacting the community, he can't enlighten us with his wax and base knowledge.

Anyways, you're right about generally wanting to error on the side of using a colder (harder) wax. But also you want to use a harder wax in more abrasive snow, think fresh pow, man-made snow, dirty snow, ect. All temp wax is usually fairly hard so I gotta say your claim about all temp being bad for pow and off piste is false. If you are looking for a new bar of universal wax I think this stuff is bomb https://the-raceplace.com/collections/beast-ski-wax/products/beast-1-everyday-glide-wax It's somewhat thermo-reactive. The stuff you linked looks ok for a cheap low-fluoro wax but fluoro wax really isn't necessary unless its really wet and humid conditions imo. @dolanslebensraum would disagree with me about the fluoros.


@DominatorJacques would likely be the best source of any waxing info on this site.
Dec 7 2021 11:39AM 6 0
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mrk127
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Session@DominatorJacques would likely be the best source of any waxing info on this site.


no it's definably dolan lol
Dec 7 2021 11:41AM 1 3
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DominatorJacques
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mrk127See mods banning @dolanslebensraum is already negatively impacting the community, he can't enlighten us with his wax and base knowledge.

Anyways, you're right about generally wanting to error on the side of using a colder (harder) wax. But also you want to use a harder wax in more abrasive snow, think fresh pow, man-made snow, dirty snow, ect. All temp wax is usually fairly hard so I gotta say your claim about all temp being bad for pow and off piste is false. If you are looking for a new bar of universal wax I think this stuff is bomb https://the-raceplace.com/collections/beast-ski-wax/products/beast-1-everyday-glide-wax It's somewhat thermo-reactive. The stuff you linked looks ok for a cheap low-fluoro wax but fluoro wax really isn't necessary unless its really wet and humid conditions imo. @dolanslebensraum would disagree with me about the fluoros.

Beast wax is Dominator wax.
Session@DominatorJacques would likely be the best source of any waxing info on this site.

TMI to talk about.
Dec 7 2021 11:47AM 3 0
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mrk127
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DominatorJacquesBeast wax is Dominator wax.

Damm idk how I didn’t know that. Makes sense
Dec 10 2021 9:56PM 1 0
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Abomber22
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Real hype o hype hype?

Dec 11 2021 1:24AM 1 0
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DominatorJacques
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mrk127Damm idk how I didn’t know that. Makes sense

Yes. They relabel for a few folks that can move a lot of wax, but only for certain formulas.
Abomber22Real hype o hype hype?


Hype today. The stuff is antique now, and the guy sold the company a while ago, I believe.
Dec 11 2021 10:23AM 0 0
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