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Learning to ski is... Hard! (help)

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.frenchy
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So today me and a fellow NS'er (HamsterNiblets) switched our skis and boards.. Jesus I never knew it was so hard to turn/stop on skis.. Like I can pizza and shit lol, but I cant stop by turning both my skis horizontaly, so how the hell do you stop?!

kinda like this-

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+k for help (if you want it)

Mar 12 2011 4:48PM
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no_steeze
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you just turn and slowly add pressure?

it's just sliding
Mar 12 2011 4:50PM
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1337
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hockey stop? so easy! just lean on your uphill edges and start to turn/slide. don't keep your downhill edges down or you'll catch them and fall on your face.
Mar 12 2011 4:50PM
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CluckaChuck
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:P:P:P XD ;);)))) :ppp
Mar 12 2011 4:50PM
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derpina
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1. Fist yourself in the balls.
2. Fall forward onto face.
3. Get a bloody nose.
4. ??????
5. Profit.
Mar 12 2011 4:52PM
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.frenchy
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Easy for you to say? Thanks for the comment... 

thanks 1337.!

Mar 12 2011 4:53PM
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JewRad
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69, e-fights, and now learning to ski? Frenchy's on a roll!


Mar 12 2011 4:53PM
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Rachy
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ok... so you can pizza stop. Just think of it as you are pizzaing with one foot and the other you are just letting go along for the ride.

What you want to do is start turning in pizza, when you get your skis perpendicular to the fall line, straighten one out. keep doing this until you get comfortable. Once you have that down you will want to start working on the pressure of your skis. When you are going into a pizza turn, say you are turning left, try taking the weight off your left turn. Then to go right, take the weight off your right foot.. this will gradually bring your feet parallel. A skate stop is just a really fast turn with a skid similar to kicking your foot out to stop on a snowboard.
Mar 12 2011 4:54PM
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.frenchy
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You're a whore..

Mar 12 2011 4:54PM
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iFlip
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See everyone? A high post count alone does not make you a great skier - you must buy lots of Jiberish and Saga as well, and a minimum of three pairs of crowbars and two pairs of frogskins. It also helps to fit Tom Wallisch into your vocabulary at least three times a day.
Mar 12 2011 4:54PM
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derpina
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Wait, you're serious? Haha shit. I thought you were trolling. My bad. Congrats for switching to the good side!
Mar 12 2011 4:55PM
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.frenchy
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I snowboard, no duh i'm gonna be a bad skier to start off, haha.

And yea AliGee, im fo real. You're not actually a whore ;)

Mar 12 2011 4:57PM
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yuck
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just stop like you would on skates
Mar 12 2011 5:07PM
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.frenchy
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I just skate until the momentum stops, hahaha. So maybe that's why this is so hard.

Mar 12 2011 5:58PM
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Funnel
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I guess you could think of it like this. By the way, feel free to ridicule me for typing this out if this is a troll thread. Pretend your skis are like a wheelbase on a car. The pivot point is going to be at or just behind the tips. When you want to stop, think of it as a drift. To slide the back out you hit the gas and make the rear wheels spin. Make the rear wheels spin and slide the tails out. After you got the tails to slide put start leaning uphill with a shoulder width stand and let the edge stop you. Does that make sense?
Mar 12 2011 6:05PM
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.frenchy
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Haha yea it kind of does.

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So put more pressure on the front foot and kinda let the back one float behind it?

Mar 12 2011 6:47PM
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californiagrown
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for right now...yes. when youre comfy with that, start really digging in both edges
Mar 12 2011 6:54PM
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CoolChillGuy420
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How to learn how to ski, you say? Its simple. Ditch the gaytray and stick to skiing from now on :)
Mar 12 2011 6:54PM
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Sam.Carson
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roll your angles and lean i guess
Mar 12 2011 6:57PM
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.frenchy
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It's me :]

Mar 12 2011 6:59PM
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bangarangmules
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Just practice on a really small bunny hill. Jeesh I remember when I tried snowboarding when I was like 12 or 13 and you think it'd be easy, but just stopping alone is hard as hell. Good luck!
Mar 12 2011 7:03PM
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malonius_funk
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just imagine that you're doing a tail butter on a snowboard
Mar 12 2011 7:10PM
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theabortionator
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I here you man, its rough. I used to be dirty on skis. when I tried to ski last year, first time in like 5 or 6 years, I end up pushing out my outside foot to turn.

I look steezy when I'm going straight down the hill, but as soon as I go to turn I push one ski out. I can't push them both together.

Sort of in the middle of the pizza to french fries stage. Might try again tomorrow.
Mar 12 2011 7:14PM
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Bubba-Snax
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you go like this.

and then you will have turned...
Mar 12 2011 7:18PM
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.frenchy
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Sick reply, must of taken alot of thought and explanation?

And yea abortionator, but you're dirtier on a snowboard!

Mar 12 2011 7:20PM
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SkiThe603
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Dude really, you fucking need to pick that up, its like being on a rail, just dig your edges in.
Mar 12 2011 7:23PM
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broto
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he's a snowboarder, he's probably never hit a rail on skis. people cannot read
Mar 12 2011 7:24PM
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theabortionator
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Haven't showered since the day I quit skiing.
Mar 12 2011 7:30PM
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Bubba-Snax
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just sayin dude, i rlly dont think any typed advice really helps with stuff like this. its just you go out and do it. figuring it out on ur own is the best teacher.
Mar 12 2011 7:36PM
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.frenchy
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Lol, why didn't you say this then?! Much better advice.

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EW showers make you cleaaaan

Mar 12 2011 7:41PM
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Bubba-Snax
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less typing.
Mar 12 2011 7:57PM
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RudyGarmisch
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Same motion as a tailpress on a board, just dont edge too much or else you'll have a bad time.
Mar 12 2011 8:13PM
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Lick
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Just turn to which ever way you want to stop, and dig your uphill edges into the snow and slowly apply pressure.
Mar 12 2011 8:18PM
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Cufe.
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you know how to do the sliding turns right? (turning on the base, as opposed to the edge) just do that sort of thing, but once you are 90 degrees to the slope you dig your edges in a little. its easiest to learn this on groomed runs or slightly icy runs.

also, this:



its a really helpful video series
Mar 12 2011 8:23PM
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theabortionator
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I'm gonna watch some "expert" village clips tonight and give it a better try tomorrow
Mar 12 2011 8:25PM
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the.cheat
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how coincidental, i did the same thing to do with a boarder friend. except i could have pulled my feet out of the boots when they were laced up. it wasnt as hard as expected though
Mar 12 2011 8:43PM
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theabortionator
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Are you kidding me? I left before I clicked reply and you beat me with expert village?


-7 internet points for me
Mar 12 2011 8:48PM
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mr.skierman
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You now have my full respect. 69'd, Internet fight=win, and now you ski!

But seriously... Turnings great and all, but you don't need much turning abilities in the park... I'd say just stick backflips

Haha.. Justkidding y'all........ ?

To stop just pressure your outside ski like you would when making a sliding turn, and then put alot of weight on it when you want to stop.. It's easier to turn for a while, and then make your final destination stop. So pressure. Weight. And then keep your feet together so your inside ski doesn't get dragged out from under you. And that's pretty much it. The softer the snow the easier it is.
Mar 12 2011 9:25PM
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adamlukowski
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I'll help you tomorrow! We can switch, or if justin switches with you again i can help better
Mar 12 2011 9:30PM
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inactive
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paging scott vail for the love of god
Mar 12 2011 9:33PM
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.frenchy
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Yay!
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And thanks for the video above, +k was also given to good replys.
Mar 12 2011 10:28PM
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maximiliaan
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you did a 69 so stopping wont be that hard...
Mar 12 2011 10:30PM
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Black.Bird
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Depending on whether you ride goofy or regular on a snowboard, you might want to use your front foot as the foot that will be in front of the other ski when stopping.
Turn your skis 90 degrees, and while doing this keep looking down the hill, as it should help you with balance.
While turning your skis, make sure you dig both ski edges in the snow and keep even pressure on each foot. Also make sure you keep your knees bent and your hands in front of your knees.

Hope this makes some sense and have fun skiing !
Mar 12 2011 10:47PM
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LittleFoot
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go really slow down a flat part of the mountain and just practice twisting your skis from one side to the other. youll notice that you need to swing your arms a little to the other side to counter balance the motion.
Mar 12 2011 10:49PM
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Mr.Luke
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what I think might help is you turn side ways on the hill, and then just slowly switch from going slightly backward to slightly forward. Kind of like a leaf falling, sideways. I think that might help you learn to stop easier. It's a theory in progress


Mar 12 2011 10:55PM
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Tha_Wizard
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i like this thread. it has a good vibe.
help really happens on NS.

its similar to the shift on a snowboard. its a little easier with more speed too.
good luck,

cheers
Mar 12 2011 11:16PM
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MADmex
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Lean back pretty far as you turn helps a ton
Mar 12 2011 11:19PM
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BrewskiJr
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Stand horizontal on a slope and start sliding down. This is the feel you want. But the only difference is that you are pushing down on your edges real hard and leaning a bit up hill. Keep your head down hill and turn your lower body 90degrees and push hard. You'll get it after try or two
Mar 12 2011 11:27PM
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ndye
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Mar 12 2011 11:28PM
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skiminnesota
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i think one of the biggest things you will need to get is the proper rotary motion (basically rotating your feet) (shouldnt be hard you can get 5yo's to get it) and after that you are gonna want to think about making your uphill ski as light as possible to initiate and bring the turn around. gradually adding pressure as youre able.


in the wedge dont think about starting your turn by pressuring your inside (or big toe) edge. think about flattening the other ski. the ski that will be your uphill ski on the turn. in order to do this though you will have to lighten it. once the uphill or inside ski is light you will be surprised where it ends up. it will probably be right next to the other one. although, dont think about picking it up and placing it next to the other one. think about actively steering the ski to match.

good luck!
Mar 12 2011 11:29PM
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skiminnesota
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i think one of the biggest things you will need to get is the proper rotary motion (basically rotating your feet) (shouldnt be hard you can get 5yo's to get it) and after that you are gonna want to think about making your uphill ski as light as possible to initiate and bring the turn around. gradually adding pressure as youre able.


in the wedge dont think about starting your turn by pressuring your inside (or big toe) edge. think about flattening the other ski. the ski that will be your uphill ski on the turn. in order to do this though you will have to lighten it. once the uphill or inside ski is light you will be surprised where it ends up. it will probably be right next to the other one. although, dont think about picking it up and placing it next to the other one. think about actively steering the ski to match.

good luck!
Mar 12 2011 11:29PM
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