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Treading water with no hands..?

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HERCULES.
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yeahh. sooo i just got this job as an ellis lifeguard so im stoked, but im uncapable of treading water with no hand movement for 20 seconds, let alone the reguired 2 mins to pass my lifeguarding test thats tomorow. Iv been to my local pool 4 times this week and i still cant do it. I've been trying to just kick my legs and keep alot of air in my lungs, but failed, and i tried for 2 hours to learn the goddamn eggbeater kick and failed also. So ns, how the fuck do you tread water with no hands and not sink? Itd be super nice to know how to do this before my test, but worse comes to worst theyl teach me at the test

Jun 11 2010 6:44AM
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Bukkakeskitrip
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man, i just normally kick as hard as i can. i duno how else to explain it, i just kick and somehow stat afloat
Jun 11 2010 6:46AM
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I_Am_Mod
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i had to do that for my diving course, 1 min. with my hands above the water...

just take a very deep breath, also blow up your tummy so your body has as much volume as possibly, then hold your head back so most of your head is in the water, but your nose and mouth are still above the surface, dont hold your hands higher out of the water then required and gently kick as if you were swimming...

that's all i can say, i didn't have any problems with it....
Jun 11 2010 6:48AM
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theabortionator
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It's mad easy. Maybe you shouldn't be a life guard. I have my boy scout and regular certification. I don't work with it though. It's a mad easy job. Pretty fun. I just don't want to have to be responsible for stupid little kids if they drown or od on heroin.
Jun 11 2010 6:49AM
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theabortionator
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I'll give some legit advice.



Here. Trying to kick like crazy is very tiring, you probably won't make it the 2 minutes if you can't go 20 second.

Try the frog kick kind of thing swirl your legs in circles at the same time. Get a nice flow going and keep it up. It won't be nearly as tiring as kicking like crazy, so 2 minutes shouldn't kill you
Jun 11 2010 6:52AM
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skithesprings
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Frog kick for sure. It's much more powerful and wayyyy less tiring.
Jun 11 2010 7:46AM
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50in07
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Inflate your stumache. That will make it so you float more. Just do gentle kicks as you feel yourself sinking. Another option would be to surgically web your feet.
Jun 11 2010 8:59AM
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snowking249
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Breastroke kick

Jun 11 2010 9:02AM
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LMPJibbin
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exactly. you dont want to be doing the same type of kicking you do when you swim normally. just keep moving each of your legs in their own circle and itll be so easy you can hold your hands above your head.
Jun 11 2010 9:10AM
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Bumblesteeze
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That's not a good idea, you'll get very tired since the recovery stage of the whip kick makes you sink. Practise you eggbeater kick, it's by far the best way of treading water. Once you have the eggbeater dialled, you're going to be able to do it without your hands.
Jun 11 2010 9:32AM
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theabortionator
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I'm hoping by eggbeater you mean the circular movement of both your legs? It all depends how you beat your eggs. If you mean the thrashing then no, circular movement than yes
Jun 11 2010 9:37AM
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_steezefiend8
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just do an upright frog kick but allternate your legs. its super easy
Jun 11 2010 9:43AM
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fujarome
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arch your back slightly so you have a bit more flotation due to your chest being almost parallel to the surface.

just remember that you can definitely do it, it's just a matter of having the will to. even if you start going under, just kick yourself back up and keep going.

last summer i managed to tread water for almost 2 hrs, switching between hands and feet. it was exhausting
Jun 11 2010 9:43AM
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theabortionator
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Every time I post something stupid(which is a lot) my karma drops. But I actually do post legit things in threads and make an effort to help people. abortion isn't all about killing.

Good luck on your test
Jun 11 2010 9:46AM
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cobra_commander
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If you can't tread water without your hands for 20seconds, you probably can't tread water for 5 min with them.

I would start with just regular treading water, start at 2min.
2 min of treading water, take a quick break (30-60sec) then swim a lap and tread water for another two min. Repeat this, again and again and again. Then increase to 5 min of treading water. Then 7 min, then 10min. Your legs will figure out what to do.
Jun 11 2010 9:46AM
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theabortionator
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I GOT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Use your hands like training wheels. They help you from eating shit or in this case drowning at first, but as you get better you don't need them. Just tread water and use your hands less and lees, or just go without hands as long as you can then keep treading with your hands, then repeat.


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one leg goes wax on while the other goes wax off. but there at the same point of orbit just on opposite sides.
Jun 11 2010 9:52AM
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Black.Bird
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If you're doing lifeguarding you should be doing the eggbeater kick. It might take a while to get it dialed but once you get it its easy. Its a very powerful kick that will allow you to carry people in the the water way more easily and let you thread water without using your hands.
Here's a video i found (yes no homo)
Jun 11 2010 9:55AM
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Bumblesteeze
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Yea that's what I meant, I guess that's what you meant by frog kick.
Eggbeater sounds way more extreme!
Jun 11 2010 9:55AM
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EC-Skier
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try spreading both legs out to the side and kick them together. worked for me
Jun 11 2010 9:57AM
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chardi
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pretend that your going all out on an exercise bike for 2 minutes.  all cardio.
Jun 11 2010 10:36AM
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PhaedeD
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watch how frogs swim with their back legs then just use that technique
Jun 11 2010 11:55AM
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Tasche
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just cheat, get low in the water and tilt your head back. Keep as much of your body in the water as possible.

Hope you get the job, I was a lifeguard all through HS and into college. Greatest job EVER. Sessioned the diving board all day and blew little kids minds, and not to mention the constant supply of hot chicks.

I was a lifeguard for 4 years and I had 1 save. Unless you like jumping in the pool those kids will make it to the side 99.99% of the time and when they do they will have the fear of god in them and not be so fucking stupid again. Really the job title shouldn't be lifeguard it should be running police.
Jun 11 2010 12:03PM
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EVAN.F
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Eggbeater motion with your legs

My cousin is a waterpolo goalie and always tries to show me how but i never quite got it down. Its pretty damn hard

Jun 11 2010 12:23PM
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Kornn101
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hahaha, as a certified lifeguard instructor and i used to do that shit thru highschool and college, i'd say you're spot on. ive only had two saves, and ironically i was saved once (pulled both calves on diving board at same time, felt like concrete, was like, hey <lifeguard i trained> wanna give me a hand here i cant really move :)
Jun 11 2010 12:25PM
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Bumblesteeze
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Haha well said
Jun 11 2010 6:01PM
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.Asain-Skiier
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I did that in like 3rd grade for level 7 swimming only like 30 seconds though. You just kinda keep up...
Jun 11 2010 6:29PM
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Holte
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On my first day of lifeguard training I had to tread water while holding a brick over my head for three minutes. It was probably the most difficult thing I did in my two year lifeguard career. I finally quit because it was too boring and I was always struggling to stay awake on the lifeguard stand.

To the OP - cheat it. Lean on your back a little bit and hold as much air in your lungs as possible to stay more buoyant. And switch between eggbeater kick and frog kick if your legs get tired.
Jun 11 2010 6:31PM
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315jibber94
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push your legss out and down. so your body starts to bob a litttle. kicking as hard as you can just mixes up the water and creats are which is no foundation to be kept aflot (bramuta triangle) the slower the better...to a point
Jun 11 2010 6:32PM
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MCIRONCOCK
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Did i just see a tramp stamp on that guy?
Jun 11 2010 7:05PM
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Slinger1x1
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why the fuck would someone want you as a lifeguard if you cannot swim?
i was able to do that shit before my age hit double digits.
Jun 11 2010 7:13PM
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hunterBear
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i just tread water like i normally do. then i kick harder than usuall and take in some more air so my lungs fill up. if you dont tread just kick harder but make sure you dont make yourself be out of breath cuz that would not be good :) another trick is to kick like your trying to jump out of the water. i hope that can help
Jun 11 2010 7:15PM
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Black.Bird
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I'm sorry sir I didn't pay attention to his ass
Jun 11 2010 7:21PM
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schism
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America really needs a system like nls like the rest of the world.

How do you expect to carry a person out of the water if you can't egg beat, really work on that. If you can't egg beat you really shouldn't be a life guard.
Jun 11 2010 7:36PM
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meth_time
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Jun 11 2010 8:10PM
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PimpingPanda
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if you had no arms and no legs and went swimming do you know what your name would be?
Bob
Jun 13 2010 3:53AM
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hokkanee
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definitely this.  Also make sure to keep your lungs as full as possible as it helps keep you afloat and make really large slow movements with your feet.  I'm not in great shape and i did it for like 5 minutes once
Jun 13 2010 3:57AM
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Inbred_Redneck
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It's pretty easy dude. Just kick your legs out in a wide circle. You don't have to do it quickly, but just make sure your kicks are strong and youll make it.
Jun 13 2010 8:38AM
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