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How stiff are CT 3.0s

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chicknfriedsteak
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Planning on getting a pair and I was under the impression the were a stiffer chargier ski than like SFBs for example. But I read 2 different reviews that said they felt like dead floppy skis. I'm not much of a fan soft skis, I like a ski that when you flex it will pop back. Also I should note that I'm I'm getting the 2016 version and that I chose the 3.0 over the 3.zeo, because it's going to double as a touring ski.
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Sep 20 2015 12:36PM
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liamrashotte
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If you like really stiff skis I wouldn't get it but if you're okay with a decent amount of flex itd be great
Sep 20 2015 12:39PM
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chicknfriedsteak
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liamrashotteIf you like really stiff skis I wouldn't get it but if you're okay with a decent amount of flex itd be great


I want the ski to flex, but still be stiff enough to get a good pop and be able to handle high speed butters, presses without getting all squirrely or washing out. My current skis are line chronic s and while they are fun for going slow and just playing around they are too soft for my taste and I don't feel comfortable with them at high speeds.
Sep 21 2015 12:00AM
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Twig
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I would say they are stiffer than the new SFB but not by much, though they are significantly stiffer than the older ones (pre-16). They are also definitely stiffer in the nose/tail than the Chronic. But I wouldn't describe them as particularly poppy/snappy, they actually ski pretty smoothly for such a light ski and they do feel damp. There is not a lot of energy turn to turn or off jumps due for the most part to the low/almost 0 camber. You can ollie on them fairly well due to the smooth rocker profile allowing easy lift, then using leg power to get the actual height and they are stiff enough for me that they held up on high speed butters though.
Sep 21 2015 2:44AM
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haggis_hunter
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Woudln't call either the SFB or 3.0 a charger, both of them use the b-comp core which is a pretty dam light, my mates Bacons felt like utter noddles next to my Legend Pros which are my bench mark for a charger.
Sep 21 2015 10:49AM
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chicknfriedsteak
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TwigI would say they are stiffer than the new SFB but not by much, though they are significantly stiffer than the older ones (pre-16). They are also definitely stiffer in the nose/tail than the Chronic. But I wouldn't describe them as particularly poppy/snappy, they actually ski pretty smoothly for such a light ski and they do feel damp. There is not a lot of energy turn to turn or off jumps due for the most part to the low/almost 0 camber. You can ollie on them fairly well due to the smooth rocker profile allowing easy lift, then using leg power to get the actual height and they are stiff enough for me that they held up on high speed butters though.


That's probably good enough for me though, since I'm a small guy. All that being said, do you like the ski? and what do you mean by them feeling damp?
Sep 21 2015 11:09AM
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Twig
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I'm about 5'9 and about 140lbs for reference. They aren't an all out charger but they do hold up at speed fairly well and they won't just fold up when you butter if that's what you're worried about, though neither would the new SFB. I haven't spent a ton of time on them, around 5 days so far, so it's hard to give a definitive opinion but from what I have done, I'd say they are a great option for a do it all lightweight jibby ski. I probably wouldn't ride a ton of park on them durability wise, but that aside I'd fairly happily ski them for most things. The trade-off is they didn't blow my mind for anything in particular. Oh and by damp I basically mean not that poppy/energetic.
Sep 21 2015 11:54AM
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chicknfriedsteak
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TwigI'm about 5'9 and about 140lbs for reference. They aren't an all out charger but they do hold up at speed fairly well and they won't just fold up when you butter if that's what you're worried about, though neither would the new SFB. I haven't spent a ton of time on them, around 5 days so far, so it's hard to give a definitive opinion but from what I have done, I'd say they are a great option for a do it all lightweight jibby ski. I probably wouldn't ride a ton of park on them durability wise, but that aside I'd fairly happily ski them for most things. The trade-off is they didn't blow my mind for anything in particular. Oh and by damp I basically mean not that poppy/energetic.


Awesome awnser, thanks man. We are about the same size then. I probably would never take them in the park since I have my chronics. I'll be using them for about 25% backountry and 75 in bounds powder skiing. The main reason I was worried about them not being stiff enough was for plowing through rough bumpy choppy snow and then butters of course. If you don't think the 3.0s are best for that, then is there another ski you'd reccomend?
Sep 21 2015 3:41PM
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Twig
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chicknfriedsteakAwesome awnser, thanks man. We are about the same size then. I probably would never take them in the park since I have my chronics. I'll be using them for about 25% backountry and 75 in bounds powder skiing. The main reason I was worried about them not being stiff enough was for plowing through rough bumpy choppy snow and then butters of course. If you don't think the 3.0s are best for that, then is there another ski you'd reccomend?


For what it sounds like you are looking for, I'd say the Batalla All MTN Twin could be perfect. Depends how much of the snow you ski is truly 'pow' and how much is chopped up crud. I did a full review on the all mountain twin back in December... maybe see if they would fit your bill.

https://www.newschoolers.com/news/read/In-Depth-Batalla-MTN-Twins
Sep 21 2015 6:02PM
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FastSpeed
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TwigFor what it sounds like you are looking for, I'd say the Batalla All MTN Twin could be perfect. Depends how much of the snow you ski is truly 'pow' and how much is chopped up crud. I did a full review on the all mountain twin back in December... maybe see if they would fit your bill.

https://www.newschoolers.com/news/read/In-Depth-Batalla-MTN-Twins


I am a little smaller than you, 5'8" and about 125lbs and I am looking for a powder charger also, looking at Nordica Patrons? Have you skies them? What can you say about them?
Sep 21 2015 8:10PM
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Twig
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36ChambersOfWuI am a little smaller than you, 5'8" and about 125lbs and I am looking for a powder charger also, looking at Nordica Patrons? Have you skies them? What can you say about them?


I've not skied them, sorry man!
Sep 22 2015 10:51AM
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chicknfriedsteak
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TwigFor what it sounds like you are looking for, I'd say the Batalla All MTN Twin could be perfect. Depends how much of the snow you ski is truly 'pow' and how much is chopped up crud. I did a full review on the all mountain twin back in December... maybe see if they would fit your bill.

https://www.newschoolers.com/news/read/In-Depth-Batalla-MTN-Twins


Mostly powder and when I mean chopped up snow I'm talking about loose fresh stuff not ice. And deep powder too.
Sep 22 2015 1:50PM
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chicknfriedsteak
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TwigFor what it sounds like you are looking for, I'd say the Batalla All MTN Twin could be perfect. Depends how much of the snow you ski is truly 'pow' and how much is chopped up crud. I did a full review on the all mountain twin back in December... maybe see if they would fit your bill.

https://www.newschoolers.com/news/read/In-Depth-Batalla-MTN-Twins


oh and great review too
Sep 22 2015 1:51PM
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Twig
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chicknfriedsteakMostly powder and when I mean chopped up snow I'm talking about loose fresh stuff not ice. And deep powder too.

I'd probably be looking in the 110+ underfoot range then. I think the All MTN Twin is pretty much the perfect stiff but still fun ski but may be a little narrow. Based on nothing but word of mouth, I'd say perhaps look at the ON3P Jeffrey 114 as a similar ski but wider!
Sep 23 2015 8:28AM
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profa_212
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chicknfriedsteakAwesome awnser, thanks man. We are about the same size then. I probably would never take them in the park since I have my chronics. I'll be using them for about 25% backountry and 75 in bounds powder skiing. The main reason I was worried about them not being stiff enough was for plowing through rough bumpy choppy snow and then butters of course. If you don't think the 3.0s are best for that, then is there another ski you'd reccomend?

Look at the 4frnt devastators. They kill the crud and float damn well for their size. Also they are able to butter and press damn good.
Sep 23 2015 9:45AM
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MartianMan
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Profahoben_212Look at the 4frnt devastators. They kill the crud and float damn well for their size. Also they are able to butter and press damn good.


Devys are pretty damn heavy to double as a touring ski.
Sep 23 2015 5:26PM
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Twig
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MartianManDevys are pretty damn heavy to double as a touring ski.


Yeah, I didn't read this carefully enough that it needs to double as a touring ski. I probably wouldn't go Batalla/ON3P then. The 3.0 or SFB are probably your best picks then. I'd go Bacons out of two I think!
Sep 25 2015 10:39AM
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tomPietrowski
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TwigYeah, I didn't read this carefully enough that it needs to double as a touring ski. I probably wouldn't go Batalla/ON3P then. The 3.0 or SFB are probably your best picks then. I'd go Bacons out of two I think!


What about the mordecai? I'm going to stick some guardians on those to have as my playfull touring setup.
Sep 25 2015 3:25PM
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chicknfriedsteak
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tomPietrowskiWhat about the mordecai? I'm going to stick some guardians on those to have as my playfull touring setup.


Have you skied them?
Sep 25 2015 4:14PM
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tomPietrowski
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chicknfriedsteakHave you skied them?


Yeah I skied them a little last season and really liked them. Nice and light but you could still drive them super hard. I tried the magnum and sfb too and the mordecai wa definetly my favourite.
Sep 25 2015 4:18PM
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tomPietrowski
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You can check out my quick reviews here.

https://www.newschoolers.com/news/read/2016-Gear-Reviews-Line
Sep 25 2015 4:20PM
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