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Do you believe there is a God?

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milk_man
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Do you believe in God? Do you believe there is one God, or many gods? Or no God at all.. Are we alone on earth?


If there is no God then everything is relative, which means morality is relative. If you don't believe in God then where do you gain your sense of right and wrong? From laws and rules created by the GOVERNMENT?


I want interesting discussion, but preferably no one getting mad and offended. I won't get offended if you won't.
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Jan 15 2015 10:07AM
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notspoicey
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No, because if God created the universe then who created god??


/end thread
Jan 15 2015 11:38AM
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GregFlik
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I like to believe that there is a higher power that doesn't judge a person based on their way of worship, but if you are a decent human in general.

Old Testament based religions such as Judaism, Christianity, and others have rules that are commonly thrown to the wayside and only use selective scripture to support a cause, like Anti-Gay rights. But in the same book it mentions if a person wears clothes from two different materials they should be stoned (Not the fun kind) to death.

I just believe in a kind of karma. Do good things, good things will happen, don't be an asshole, and just treat your fellow human with respect.
Jan 15 2015 11:43AM
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milk_man
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GregFlikI like to believe that there is a higher power that doesn't judge a person based on their way of worship, but if you are a decent human in general.

Old Testament based religions such as Judaism, Christianity, and others have rules that are commonly thrown to the wayside and only use selective scripture to support a cause, like Anti-Gay rights. But in the same book it mentions if a person wears clothes from two different materials they should be stoned (Not the fun kind) to death.

I just believe in a kind of karma. Do good things, good things will happen, don't be an asshole, and just treat your fellow human with respect.


Christianity isn't an Old Testament religion
Jan 15 2015 12:12PM
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GregFlik
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The Old Testament is the first section of the Christian Bible, based primarily upon the Hebrew Bible, a collection of religious writings by ancient Israelites.
Jan 15 2015 12:18PM
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dom_daq
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Nobody can really answer this question for obvious reasons but I do have an opinion.

I believe that the idea of a "God" (or whatever you call him/ them) and a "heaven" that god only sends the good people to was a strategic (and I would argue helpful) lie started by humans to try to improve human behavior. The purpose of religion is to give people a reason to live good lives; to help others, be compassionate, better humanity, etc. Many people get caught up in the other-worldly bullshit that could maybe be true, but I think deep down everyone finds it a bit doubtful. Religion is really about teaching people how to live, not about teaching people what happens once you die.

My point is that some people need religion to live a good life, and props to them for having the motivation to follow the commandments or rules set by religion to better the life of the follower. But personally, I'd rather live a good life on my own terms; I can be a compassionate, helpful and genuine human being without a holy book or preacher telling me how to do it.

That's my 2 cents on religion, sorry for the rant (hopefully it makes sense).
Jan 15 2015 12:37PM
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steeze4days
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I believe in the snow god.

He makes it snow when you do the snow dance just right.

Fucking love the snow god.

(also he is the only god so if anyone makes fun of him or makes cartoons of him they're gonna get it)
Jan 15 2015 12:40PM
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Dobber
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God, Allah, and Tom Wallisch.
Jan 15 2015 1:01PM
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Lus146
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ginNo, because if God created the universe then who created god??


/end thread


As long as you're an atheist don't be fucking dumb.
Jan 15 2015 1:20PM
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CHORIZO
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Jan 15 2015 1:23PM
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ANDR01D
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I don't believe in god. This does not mean I am morally bankrupt, it means that I judge right and wrong based on my own feelings. I'd say it works out pretty well. I hate rapists, murderers, thieves, and I have no issue with the LGBT community, people with tattoos, and people of other religions, as long as they are good people.

If I had to believe in something, I'd probably pick Norse Mythology, it makes far more sense than anything else.
Jan 15 2015 1:25PM
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Zimmerman
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I'd suggest The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins. He outlines a number of reasons why there almost certainly is no god and explains them, and their rebuttals in depth.
Jan 15 2015 1:54PM
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SFB
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ZimmermanI'd suggest The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins. He outlines a number of reasons why there almost certainly is no god and explains them, and their rebuttals in depth.


Jan 15 2015 2:05PM
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deleted5
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There is no proof, and there's no purpose for him to exist. Until he shows himself I will not belive allah, zeus, the eighth dynamic of scientology or what ever you claim is real by your blind faith.
Jan 15 2015 2:05PM
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I_Am_Mod
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There's only one true god!

May you all be touched by his noodly appendages!
Jan 15 2015 2:10PM
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yelsel
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Nope. Not one bit.
Jan 15 2015 2:11PM
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AmateurPilgrim
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yes
Jan 15 2015 2:15PM
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Stadtski
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the people who started christianity were definitely some people who just wanted to convince people to be good people. They are merely an outline of how to be generally good.
Jan 15 2015 2:16PM
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John18_6
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It seems like every culture on earth has a mention of a higher power somewhere within it. Wether it is a way of explaining the unknown, or if it is truth. That's for us to figure out.
Jan 15 2015 2:38PM
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toastyteenagers
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This thread is going to be 3 pages long
Jan 15 2015 2:53PM
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Huck_Norris
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If there was a God there's no way eheath would have won that sled haha
Jan 15 2015 3:16PM
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ZachAndCheese
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I believe for I have seen him with my own eyes
Jan 15 2015 3:20PM
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DirtYStylE
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One god
Two god
Red god
Blue god

By Dr. Sucio
Jan 15 2015 3:54PM
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Mr.noodle
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I only believe in the only God, the ski god, tanner.

but in all seriousness I am atheist and I think that "God" has created many, many, many Problems and I know my right from wrong from common sence and logic.
Jan 15 2015 4:35PM
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TOAST.
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Your poll sucks.
Jan 15 2015 4:40PM
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louie.mirags
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na
Jan 15 2015 4:43PM
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yeahmon
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Of coarse there is a god what kind of thread is this
Jan 15 2015 4:44PM
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Titus69
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I have much belief in afterlife considering Ive seen some creepy stuff but dont see how god can be real? Wouldnt he have a higher power above him? No one can pop out of no where without being born and if he did, Id think his parents would somehow be higher than him in the religous world.
Jan 15 2015 4:58PM
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GrabsForFun
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The poll is a little narrow.
I am an atheist when it comes to any diety I've heard of, none have had any evidence in it's favor. However when it comes to the idea of a creator/spiritual world as a consept I am an agnostic. I can't disprove a deistic god for example. But I only need common sense to know that Jesus never walked on water or rose from the dead. Neither is it hard to disprove Muhammad riding a flying horse. And why would the holy books have it right when it comes to the creation of the universe (based on knowledge from ca 5000 years ago in one of the most illiterate parts of the ancient world) when they don´t even have a decent grasp on morality? Nobrainer
Jan 15 2015 5:17PM
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notspoicey
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milk man enjoys making threads that stir shit up
Jan 15 2015 5:21PM
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GrabsForFun
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Mr.noodleI only believe in the only God, the ski god, tanner.


Today I think I can safely say my skigod, Candide, shreds harder than your Tanner.

Ps. If I were to believe in a god I would not believe in a singular god but in many. There is nothing that we know of in this universe that isn´t numerous. Maby not even the universe itself. Why would that not extend to gods?
Jan 15 2015 5:25PM
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Nikolaus
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Rosa_Parkthe people who started christianity were definitely some people who just wanted to convince people to be good people. They are merely an outline of how to be generally good.


I think they backfired.
Jan 15 2015 6:41PM
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afterbang_me
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Rosa_Parkthe people who started christianity were definitely some people who just wanted to convince people to be good people. They are merely an outline of how to be generally good.


That, or they noticed that people are afraid of dying and they found a way to "receive donations" to keep them out of hell. The earth is totally 2 thousand years old and the sasquatch has been here since the beginning keeping an eye on us.
Jan 15 2015 6:47PM
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milk_man
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Titus69No one can pop out of no where without being born and if he did, Id think his parents would somehow be higher than him in the religous world.


No human can, but spirits and "all powerful beings" don't follow the same physical laws as humans though, obviously
Jan 15 2015 6:47PM
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milk_man
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GregFlikOld Testament based religions such as Judaism, Christianity, and others have rules that are commonly thrown to the wayside and only use selective scripture to support a cause, like Anti-Gay rights.


GregFlikThe Old Testament is the first section of the Christian Bible, based primarily upon the Hebrew Bible, a collection of religious writings by ancient Israelites.


Yeah, the Jews were of the old testament.


Christianity didn't exist until Jesus Christ came around, which is the New Testament..
Jan 15 2015 6:50PM
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SFB
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yes
Jan 15 2015 7:04PM
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.Hugo.
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God spelled backwards is dog. I rest my case
Jan 15 2015 7:06PM
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milk_man
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.Hugo.God spelled backwards is dog. I rest my case


If anything, that says something about the English language
Jan 15 2015 7:10PM
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Titus69
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milk_manNo human can, but spirits and "all powerful beings" don't follow the same physical laws as humans though, obviously



Still doesnt make sense, where did these "powerful beings" come from? How did they make this so called God?
Jan 15 2015 7:16PM
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sbarlett
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I'm a Christian. Won't argue with people about it, and I have my beliefs for my own reasons. I'm not a person that tries to shove religion down anybody's throat, and I respect everyone's opinions. I have friends of like literally every set of beliefs too. Don't really get why there has to be a thread stirring shit up about the topic, it should be about your individual views and not trying to influence others.
Jan 15 2015 7:21PM
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Toaster-Tony
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milk_manYeah, the Jews were of the old testament.


Christianity didn't exist until Jesus Christ came around, which is the New Testament..


Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't the Ten Commandments given in the old testament and outline what christianity stands for?

and morality is always relative to what you believe in. Personally I don't believe in God even though I was raised Christian. it pretty much came down to the realization that being a good person is the right thing to do, God or no god.

also, spirituality =/= religion
Jan 15 2015 7:26PM
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Heart
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I don't believe there is a god. What I find the most compelling reason for there not being a creator is how humanity has viewed a God throughout history. God has always been the fallback when we haven't known how something works. But slowly, we've discovered natural laws to explain much of the previously inexplicable phenomena.

I like to think that we will eventually reach a point where we can explain every thing about our universe and how we came into existence. The origin of biological life, the origin of our universe, the existence of extraterrestrial life, etc.

Ultimately, you still can't prove that there is or is not a creator, but I like to think there isn't one.
Jan 15 2015 7:28PM
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Toaster-Tony
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ObeseBunnyI don't believe there is a god. What I find the most compelling reason for there not being a creator is how humanity has viewed a God throughout history. God has always been the fallback when we haven't known how something works. But slowly, we've discovered natural laws to explain much of the previously inexplicable phenomena.

I like to think that we will eventually reach a point where we can explain every thing about our universe and how we came into existence. The origin of biological life, the origin of our universe, the existence of extraterrestrial life, etc.

Ultimately, you still can't prove that there is or is not a creator, but I like to think there isn't one.


From a non-spiritual standpoint, religion has a terrible track record for explaining phenomenons.
Jan 15 2015 7:31PM
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DJtearegas
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HEY ATHEISTS, IF THERE IS NO OXYGEN IN SPACE HOW DOES THE SUN BURN?

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Jan 15 2015 7:43PM
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milk_man
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Titus69Still doesnt make sense, where did these "powerful beings" come from? How did they make this so called God?


The idea is that he always has existed, and that he doesn't have a beginning or end

.ttelrab.it should be about your individual views and not trying to influence others.


You're misreading my intentions. I'm not trying to change what people thing at all. I want to know what people think, and how they began to think that way

DiabeetoCorrect me if I'm wrong but weren't the Ten Commandments given in the old testament and outline what christianity stands for?

and morality is always relative to what you believe in. Personally I don't believe in God even though I was raised Christian. it pretty much came down to the realization that being a good person is the right thing to do, God or no god.

also, spirituality =/= religion


Most Christians still go by the Ten Commandments, but some argue that they don't "matter" anymore. But the core of the Christian belief is the life of Jesus, Christians want to be more like him. And if you were exactly like Jesus you would be following all 10 Commandments naturally, so it goes both ways I guess

What took place to make you not believe in God?
Jan 15 2015 7:44PM
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Titus69
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^ Thats the dumbest concept ever, so years after I die and leave a good legacy on religion and people can eventually say "oh that kid was born and died a holy man so I must praise him"

What took place to make you not believe in God?[/QUOTE]

The fact that its a waste of time to believe in and that there is no point since once we die, nothing happens theres no magical fairyland we go to.
Jan 15 2015 8:03PM
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fresh_prince
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the true meaning of God is happiness and love for everyone, what people interpret is completely different from what religions are actually telling people, no one has the right to push their religion on anyone or tell them that what they believe is wrong, if religion makes you feel happy and that you belong than you should by all means believe whatever you want, no one should be able to say if there is a god or not because no one really knows. I personally do not know what I believe.
Jan 15 2015 8:07PM
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veng_m
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yes, I believe in God
Jan 15 2015 8:07PM
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Toaster-Tony
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milk_manMost Christians still go by the Ten Commandments, but some argue that they don't "matter" anymore. But the core of the Christian belief is the life of Jesus, Christians want to be more like him. And if you were exactly like Jesus you would be following all 10 Commandments naturally, so it goes both ways I guess

What took place to make you not believe in God?


That's a good answer.

But as far as my beliefs go, there's no definite way of ruling out a higher power or any statement saying we aren't spiritually connected. This is what I do believe in; the fact that us humans are connected to all living things in ways we cannot begin to fathom.

What steers me from the church is the fact that it takes scripture for fact. Through reading epic tales and other forms of religion, the main purpose is always to teach a lesson and give guidelines on how to live a sin-free life. I respect The Bible for what it is, but look at it no differently than The Quran, The Torah, The Sutras, or Greek mythology. I find it very contradictory to look at one of these books as a tool used for teaching, and another as black and white fact.

It comes down to truths vs. Truths.
Jan 15 2015 8:10PM
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Mr.noodle
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GrabsForFunToday I think I can safely say my skigod, Candide, shreds harder than your Tanner.

Ps. If I were to believe in a god I would not believe in a singular god but in many. There is nothing that we know of in this universe that isn´t numerous. Maby not even the universe itself. Why would that not extend to gods?


Agreed but I have never heard of candide being called the skigod but tanner, yes
Jan 15 2015 8:14PM
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Don't believe in god, realized that god can't exist because the more humans know the smaller god gets. The sky is called the heavens because for a long time humans had no explanation for them. Because of this the only conclusion was a higher power mush have created them. Humans also thought that the universe was created by god, now humans know that the big bang is what created the universe.
Jan 15 2015 8:35PM
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