something ive been thinking about for a while and I think skiing is actually really fucking hard compared to a lot of other sports to get good. To me I don’t consider it a sport cause and more of an art because I’m not a comp kid who jerks their meat to andri ragettli every night so let’s just compare it to sports. In teams sports you have like 4 or 10 people helping you while in skiing it’s just you competing against other people. Unless you have hella daddy’s money or live in oregon, you can really only improve drastically in the winter, giving you less time to improve such as biking or running sports. So is skiing really the hardest sport cause I say yes
Idk if it is the hardest but skateboarding is def harder than skiing
It's hard as hell to get good at skiing, but I'd argue almost all sports are difficult af at the professional level. The level of separation that exists in basketball, soccer, racing, etc. is astronomical between regular shmucks and pros. Just like it is in skiing.
I'd argue that team sports are the most difficult. Yes, you have others helping you, but at the same time, you're relying on all of those players to be their very best. American Football is a really good example of this. So many pieces need to fall into place perfectly to operate at the highest level competitively. It takes an army of players and coaches to organize and strategize. One player's mistake can ruin the outcome of the team. Formula 1 is another example. You can have the best driver and best car in the world, but if a pit crew member messes up a tire change, the race is over just like that.
Skiing is also a really niche sport. There are 265 million soccer players worldwide and only 135 million skiers. The sample size for soccer is much larger, which would suggest the players at the top are better as a result.
I'm not saying skiing isn't difficult. If it was easy I'd be a lot better at it. I just think athletes of all sports are amazing and deserve credit for competing at their level.
BrandoComandoIt's hard as hell to get good at skiing, but I'd argue almost all sports are difficult af at the professional level. The level of separation that exists in basketball, soccer, racing, etc. is astronomical between regular shmucks and pros. Just like it is in skiing.I'd argue that team sports are the most difficult. Yes, you have others helping you, but at the same time, you're relying on all of those players to be their very best. American Football is a really good example of this. So many pieces need to fall into place perfectly to operate at the highest level competitively. It takes an army of players and coaches to organize and strategize. One player's mistake can ruin the outcome of the team. Formula 1 is another example. You can have the best driver and best car in the world, but if a pit crew member messes up a tire change, the race is over just like that.
Skiing is also a really niche sport. There are 265 million soccer players worldwide and only 135 million skiers. The sample size for soccer is much larger, which would suggest the players at the top are better as a result.
I'm not saying skiing isn't difficult. If it was easy I'd be a lot better at it. I just think athletes of all sports are amazing and deserve credit for competing at their level.
100% agree. I play soccer and bike as well as ski and skiing and biking and similar while soccer is completely different and hard and other ways. Skiing isn’t as physically challenging as soccer in my opinion and other sports that require mass running and good body shape.
Tic tac toe the hardest sport. Find me one player with more than 50% win rate
Baseball.
I don’t think skiing is a sport. At least not the type of skiing I do. Way too fun to be a sport haha.
weastcoastBaseball.I don’t think skiing is a sport. At least not the type of skiing I do. Way too fun to be a sport haha.
Feel the same way. If I treated skiing like a sport it would ruin the fun in it. I’m just comparing it difficulty wise to sports
switchlip2Feel the same way. If I treated skiing like a sport it would ruin the fun in it. I’m just comparing it difficulty wise to sports
Skiing is easier than walking lol.
real talk tho skiings not super hard but you have to have a little bit of athleticism for park or all mtn skiing
weastcoastSkiing is easier than walking lol.real talk tho skiings not super hard but you have to have a little bit of athleticism for park or all mtn skiing
Agreed I can’t walk in a straight line but I can ski. I’m talking from the standpoint of someone who’s just getting into skiing tho
weastcoastBaseball.I don’t think skiing is a sport. At least not the type of skiing I do. Way too fun to be a sport haha.
I love u, but baseball? r ur fukin balls on backwards? Pro baseball players are out here in their late 30s looking like they just slammed 6 Big Macs on the way to the game. I’m sure it’s hard but def. it hardest
Skiblade420I love u, but baseball? r ur fukin balls on backwards? Pro baseball players are out here in their late 30s looking like they just slammed 6 Big Macs on the way to the game. I’m sure it’s hard but def. it hardest
Not the most physically demanding but hitting a baseball is hard as fuck lol you have less than a blink of an eye’s time to make a decision if you’re going to take a hack or not. I don’t know any other sport where you can make millions by consistently failing 7 out of 10 times.
weastcoastBaseball.I don’t think skiing is a sport. At least not the type of skiing I do. Way too fun to be a sport haha.
Baseball isn’t a sport it’s a passtime, a game.
Christian_Balewater polo
I'm biased af but water polo is underappreciated for what it is. In high school my coach had an open invite for athletes if other sports to come to practice and try it. Only once did someone come. A big headed wrestler who was beyond dead and beat up by the end. In the terms if hardest I'm not sure cause theres so many different things that make something hard but water polo checks a lot of boxes.
Also, skiing is not anywhere close. Take an average person and teach them the basics and they'll look somewhat competent by end of day. Many other outdoor sports such as climbing, paddle sports, even snowboarding have far stepper learning curves when starting out.
Sorry to burst your bubble grommie, but surfing is infinitely more difficult to master than skiing. So many more variables and everything is always moving around you. No two waves are ever the same. You can learn enough about skiing to be having fun after 15 minutes, surfing is more like a year - that's if you ride a longboard in small waves, have natural ability and already understand how waves work. Shortboarding - make that three years to get beyond kookdom.
WestieBoganSorry to burst your bubble grommie, but surfing is infinitely more difficult to master than skiing. So many more variables and everything is always moving around you. No two waves are ever the same. You can learn enough about skiing to be having fun after 15 minutes, surfing is more like a year - that's if you ride a longboard in small waves, have natural ability and already understand how waves work. Shortboarding - make that three years to get beyond kookdom.
After a single season of skiing, I feel like from an onlookers perspective outside of both sports (on video) I look just as comfortable as I do surfing. And I’ve been surfing consistently for 10 years/live by the beach and would be considered advanced. The adaptability you need in surfing is un real. A jerry could hit a big jump skiing and have a decent chance of actually landing it if he gets his speed right. Take that same skill and have him try to drop in on a big wave and there’s no chance in hell he’s not beefing it.
I think you take the extremity of sports then they generally all take as much skill, like a pro surfer / pro skier are just as talented and pushing the limits. same with skating and every big sport, those people really give it their all.
You kind of have to think of how hard it is to look just alight from an outsiders perspective.
someone that looks aright-decent at skiing doesn’t have to put in that much time I feel.
Someone that looks alright-decent at surfing has to put in a ton of hours
just like someone that looks alright at unicycling probably took them way longer than someone who looks alright riding a bike
I wouldn’t say it’s the hardest, I still think skating is harder. But getting good is by no means easy. Especially on variable, off piste shit.
I don’t think skiing is tough on groomers, but i def get my money’s worth skiing off piste. If you think skiing is easy, you need to get off the beaten trail and have your ass kicked a few times.
Yea dude I tried to learn how to surf once...it’s impossible to even learn cause I couldn’t even catch a wave. I think if they got rid of lifts then skiing could be considered hard to learn, but the lifts, groomers, signage, perfect kickers, etc, all make it way easier than most untamed sports.
I think in terms of learning, yea something like surfing. In terms of competing at the highest level it’s gotta be soccer - the most people, money, and time is invested in it so presumably being the “best” is hardest.
Skiblade420After a single season of skiing, I feel like from an onlookers perspective outside of both sports (on video) I look just as comfortable as I do surfing. And I’ve been surfing consistently for 10 years/live by the beach and would be considered advanced. The adaptability you need in surfing is un real. A jerry could hit a big jump skiing and have a decent chance of actually landing it if he gets his speed right. Take that same skill and have him try to drop in on a big wave and there’s no chance in hell he’s not beefing it.I think you take the extremity of sports then they generally all take as much skill, like a pro surfer / pro skier are just as talented and pushing the limits. same with skating and every big sport, those people really give it their all.
You kind of have to think of how hard it is to look just alight from an outsiders perspective.
someone that looks aright-decent at skiing doesn’t have to put in that much time I feel.
Someone that looks alright-decent at surfing has to put in a ton of hours
just like someone that looks alright at unicycling probably took them way longer than someone who looks alright riding a bike
XC Skiing at high levels is INSANELY difficult, especially if you throw Biathlon into the mix.
Overall I feel like swimming might be the hardest sport physically, but XC skiing involved crazy fitness and perfect form.
ericformanYea dude I tried to learn how to surf once...it’s impossible to even learn cause I couldn’t even catch a wave. I think if they got rid of lifts then skiing could be considered hard to learn, but the lifts, groomers, signage, perfect kickers, etc, all make it way easier than most untamed sports.I think in terms of learning, yea something like surfing. In terms of competing at the highest level it’s gotta be soccer - the most people, money, and time is invested in it so presumably being the “best” is hardest.
Good take
ericformanI think in terms of learning, yea something like surfing. In terms of competing at the highest level it’s gotta be soccer - the most people, money, and time is invested in it so presumably being the “best” is hardest.
I consider soccer to be the hardest team sport for sure. Constant running for 90 minutes and having to be constantly focused and tactically aware and communicate with 10 other people
ah this is a fun thread but this is a bit off-topic. My friend and I are arguing whether figure skating or skiing is harder in the park/tricks aspect. IMO skiing is much harder because it includes good air awareness and balance and has more risk to it where figure skating is just spinning and jumping on ice no crazy tricks like corks or anything just flat spins
what are your thoughts?
but also regarding your question switchlip2, I don't think skiing is the hardest sport because many others require crazy talents like American football, basketball, and lots others.
Op if you consider the fact that the harder the sport is, the less magnitude its hardest tricks are, then skiing is obviously one of the easiest extreme sports. Its right up there with wakeboarding and bmx. Show me a sport where pros are doing dub cork 2160s and ill show you a sport thats easy as fuck.
skateboarding is by far the hardest extreme sport. The reason most pro skaters style is usually great is because you have to be so much more on point than you do skiing. If you ski everyday growing up you are gonna be able to leg press 700 pounds and muscle out awkward landings that you didnt stomp perfectly. You have a huge area of stability under you on skis. Basically a big rectangle foundation. If you are super strong like josdi wells or whatever you can be smoking bath salts and ur still gonna land your tricks bc its so hard to get your center of gravity outside that huge rectangle.
if your a weak little bitch you cant do shit regardless, but most ppl who think they are reasonably good skiers couldnt even stand on a skateboard without eating shit.
Skiing is easy, but if you have never skiied then the tricks pro skiers do look amazing. The feminists in america have realized this which is why they push females in our sport more than the men and why female pro skiers like sildaru make alot more than most male pros. The feminists want the audience to see sildaru do a 900 and say “wow girls can do anything!” because they dont know how fucking easy it is to ski park everyday from age 5-15 and by the end of it be able to land 900 starfish in your sleep.
quitiquit is another example.
OMG A GIRL DROPPED A BIG CLIFF. SPONSOR HER FOR THE REST OF HER LIFE.
meanwhile ppl like wallish and vanular and delorme are on food stamps selling dick picks to perverts.
The fact that top female pros make more than top male pros is ridiculous. Ask around about this fact and you will hear the same thing. Its fucked up.
back on topic.
skiing is incredibly easy.
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Id say skiing in a broader sense very well could be one of the hardest sports... XC skiing for example requires some pretty intense stamina... theres a reason why Bjørn Dæhlie still has the highest vO2max ever recorded... but running ultra-marathons, and cycling across an entire european country could definitely contend.
Lets just say this... what sport do you think you'd need to train for the most to become competitive? seeing as you could probably get some chinese gymnast on skis and get them to throw tricks like a ninja in order to win a few medals, I would probably say skiing is not necessarily the most difficult...
Id contend that being a hockey centreman, or a professional boxer are probably the most difficult all-around sports or positions when it comes to technique, training requirements, fitness, and punishment-potential...
Boxers (or, maybe MMA fighters? I dont know how MMA bouts go) have to go round after round spending the whole time avoiding getting punched in the fucking face, while trying to punch someone else in the fucking face, and dancing around all over the place moving every muscle in the body...
Hockey players have to skate around at full blast, on slippery ass ice, smashing into other guys really hard, while deliberately putting oneself in the way of a slapshot, and then occasionally get punched in the fucking face while wearing knives on their feet... all while trying to direct a puck with a funky shaped stick and getting smashed into by other guys really hard.
Skiing is not the hardest sport even in action sports. You’re attached to the skis, hills are pretty wide open, and the snow is pretty soft. If you compare it to biking there’s a lot less injury risk and more time to just cruise and then skateboarding is way more technical then skiing will ever be. It can take people forever to even learn how to ollie vs skiing where you can hit jumps on your first day out.
Go to a ski hill. look at the average person there. Skiing is not the hardest sport.
NivlacEloopGo to a ski hill. look at the average person there. Skiing is not the hardest sport.
Ha! You summed it up perfectly
switchlip2something ive been thinking about for a while and I think skiing is actually really fucking hard compared to a lot of other sports to get good. To me I don’t consider it a sport cause and more of an art because I’m not a comp kid who jerks their meat to andri ragettli every night so let’s just compare it to sports. In teams sports you have like 4 or 10 people helping you while in skiing it’s just you competing against other people. Unless you have hella daddy’s money or live in oregon, you can really only improve drastically in the winter, giving you less time to improve such as biking or running sports. So is skiing really the hardest sport cause I say yes
Hockey. On top of having to dial in a bunch of skills in a super aggressive environment, you also have to be a demon on skates. Its just really hard to put all that together.
Depends when you learned, I've been skiing since before I could read so to me it feels like walking, whereas I recently started mountain biking and it seems so difficult to me. However, if the it were the inverse I'd feel differently.
DolansLebensraummeanwhile ppl like wallish and vanular and delorme are on food stamps selling dick picks to perverts.
I can neither confirm nor deny whether or not @TWallisch sells dick pics, but I can say with confidence he does not live on food stamps.
I'm gonna say that to me at least, being a professional Mountain biker seems ridiculous. The speed and risk of injury are insane, I mean just the vids from Red Bull Rampage are ridiculous, I could barely imagine stepping to that on skis on snow and here they are on a far less stable piece of equipment on dirt and rock.
Snowboarding is way harder. Skiing is a joke.
Out of all the sports i participate in skiing is by far the easiest for me. I can usually land new tricks on within 1-10 trys on skis. It took me three years of consistent grinding to do a heel flip on a skateboard and even still i don't have them on lock. Skiing is definitely not easy don't get me wrong theres just sports out there that are a lot more challenging and have way bigger risks. At the end of the day its all subjective I have friends who are incredible golfers and skaters who cant link turns on green groomers.
can’t compare extreme sports to team sports, i don’t see anyone risking their lives playing basketball just to get a shot.
I'd say gymnastics. It's gotta be one of the hardest simply because there's no real way to do it casually. Skiing, moto, mtb, hockey, things of that sort people play on their weekends and time off. Gymnastics requires 100% dedication and constant maintenance in order to perform.
Hockey, Baseball especially with how difficult it is to make your way up through minor leagues and stuff. or trying to get into the NFL and maintain a pro playing career for a long time after playing something like D1 College football which is like its own different beast. Oh and shout out to stuff like european soccer like that shit is crazy as well.
My gripe with skiing is that its one of the hardest sports on earth that gets disrespected too much.
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mogul skiing... There's a reason why even people who consider themselves expert skiers don't like moguls... cuz it's way fucking complex athletically. It's like motocross/sprinting/gymnastics. You could put Kinsbury in a speed suit and he could get down GS course, maybe not that fast but he'd do alright, you could put him in the park and he could do cork 1440 and hit all the rails. I doubt any WC racers or (todays) park guys could even get down a mogul course with 2 straight airs.
TreegrabberNopejacking off tops it by a mile
3maniamogul skiing... There's a reason why even people who consider themselves expert skiers don't like moguls... cuz it's way fucking complex athletically. It's like motocross/sprinting/gymnastics. You could put Kinsbury in a speed suit and he could get down GS course, maybe not that fast but he'd do alright, you could put him in the park and he could do cork 1440 and hit all the rails. I doubt any WC racers or (todays) park guys could even get down a mogul course with 2 straight airs.
This is kinda cap. Bump skiing isn't that hard, I'd imagine it would be even easier with super soft, light bump skis that only come up to your shoulders.
3maniamogul skiing... There's a reason why even people who consider themselves expert skiers don't like moguls... cuz it's way fucking complex athletically. It's like motocross/sprinting/gymnastics. You could put Kinsbury in a speed suit and he could get down GS course, maybe not that fast but he'd do alright, you could put him in the park and he could do cork 1440 and hit all the rails. I doubt any WC racers or (todays) park guys could even get down a mogul course with 2 straight airs.
Maybe. I've seen hornbeck absolutely rip a zipper line down the icey bittersweet moguls when no one else would touch them.
BiffbarfThis is kinda cap. Bump skiing isn't that hard, I'd imagine it would be even easier with super soft, light bump skis that only come up to your shoulders.
I guess you can imagine all you want. Those courses are damn near unskiable by anyone except for someone who competes in the discipline. I looked at your profile to see if there was a way to tell if you are a decent skier, no photos no vids. So i have no way of knowing if you even are qualified to make any kind of judgment on this stuff. You got a lot of NS points so i guess your good at putting your opinion out there, but you're way wrong on this.
3maniaI guess you can imagine all you want. Those courses are damn near unskiable by anyone except for someone who competes in the discipline. I looked at your profile to see if there was a way to tell if you are a decent skier, no photos no vids. So i have no way of knowing if you even are qualified to make any kind of judgment on this stuff. You got a lot of NS points so i guess your good at putting your opinion out there, but you're way wrong on this.
I don't think there's a huge market on NS that wants to watch me suck wind in bumps man. I've never been on a seeded bump course that wasn't blown tf out after it's been used and snowed on but 'not get down one' seems like a stretch to me. You think I just ski groomers all day?
MMA for sure look at guys like tony Ferguson and how much work he puts in all aspects like striking, grappling, endurance and especially conditioning
It’s impossible to compare skiing to something like soccer or golf. Even if you limit it down to action sports its still pretty easy in comparison to board sports like surfing, snowboarding, skateboarding. Imo skiing is just below board sports in terms of difficulty. It’s unfair to call us rollerbladers though. We’re honestly more closely related to snowboarders.
No. Moto x and enduro on dirtbikes, skateboarding, inline, and surfing are all quite a bit more difficult.
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He looks like he needs a cupcake
Idk about skiing being hard now that I really think about it. I can't think of something more effortless and easy as skiing down a fresh pow run or hoping onto a simple down rail. If we are talking phat corks and rail wizardly at the pro level it's a whole different story tho