MLJUmm, you realise the "poverty line" is a buck sixty a day right? So noone in America getting payed legally that is employed should be below the poverty line. What is your evidence for raising the minimum wage being good? Please, go ahead and cite several examples that are not circumstantial, I would love to learn more.

Lol... I've had a long day, fucking blow me smartass. $1.60 a day won't even cover a Sally Struthers kid. That is an absurd figure and I have no idea where you or anyone else would get that. Please go fuck yourself now.

The poverty line is calculated state to state and it ranges from 11k-14k for a one-person household which is NOWHERE NEAR A BUCK SIXTY A DAY YOU FUCKING CUNT.

Who let you in here anyways? Jesus doesn't even forgive you. Get out and never come back.

DeebieSkeebiesobviously, but why is it just fast food workers? is the idea that if we are able to put one crack or dent in the wall that it will all come tumbling down? Regardless, I feel like this will also take a while before it actually happens, if basic human rights took this fucking long, then god knows what will happen with wages, you know?

I agree that employers can get away with murder if it was legal, and they already do. Soo many people out there biting the fucking bullet while executives cut corners and maximize their own paychecks. its all fucked up.

It's not just fast food workers that are trying to organize. The struggle with labor rights has been ongoing for centuries. Fast food workers just happen to be getting a little more traction and publicity right now. We have a global economy and actual slavery still exists in this world so it seems that the fight for labor rights will be a long one.

theabortionatorYou are a stupid fuck. You're going to call somebody out like that, and be so ridiculously wrong? I thought maybe I was wrong, I've lived in a few different states and then out of the country last summer. Thought maybe I had my facts mixed up. Nope. You're just an idiot. Not even going to read the rest of your post yet.

New York

$8.75

$9.00 eff. 12-31-15

http://www.ncsl.org/research/labor-and-employment/state-minimum-wage-chart.aspx

Minimum Wage Increase

Beginning December 31, 2013, New York State’s minimum wage increased in a series of three annual changes as follows:

$8.00 on 12/31/13

$8.75 on 12/31/14

$9.00 on 12/31/15

http://www.labor.state.ny.us/workerprotection/laborstandards/workprot/minwage.shtm

One last time. You are a stupid fuck. Okay, I'll stop now because everyone makes mistakes. I'm not mad but if you're going to be a total dick, and blatantly wrong in a callout post, you're deserving at least a small fuck you.

Have a nice day :)

THE NATIONAL MINIMUM WAGE IS $7.25. THERE ARE STILL MULTIPLE STATES THAT ONLY REQUIRE THE NATIONAL MINIMUM WAGE AND SOME THAT HAVE NO STANDARD. HOW AM I WRONG?

http://www.dol.gov/whd/minwage/america.htm

I DONT GIVE A SHIT WHAT MINIMUM WAGE IS IN NEW YORK

Whos the dick now???

DlCKTHE NATIONAL MINIMUM WAGE IS $7.25. THERE ARE STILL MULTIPLE STATES THAT ONLY REQUIRE THE NATIONAL MINIMUM WAGE AND SOME THAT HAVE NO STANDARD. HOW AM I WRONG?

http://www.dol.gov/whd/minwage/america.htm

I DONT GIVE A SHIT WHAT MINIMUM WAGE IS IN NEW YORK

Whos the dick now???

Because I'm talking about NY, this fast food raise is happening in NY. Do I need to write you a fucking outline?

Also nice touch with caps bitch. Really adds to your already terrible attempt at making a point.

Just roundhouse kick yourself in the face already.

The internet these days, lolz.

theabortionatorBecause I'm talking about NY, this fast food raise is happening in NY. Do I need to write you a fucking outline?

Also nice touch with caps bitch. Really adds to your already terrible attempt at making a point.

Just roundhouse kick yourself in the face already.

The internet these days, lolz.

I STILL DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT NEW YORK. I MADE A VERY CLEAR POINT, IT JUST HAPPENED TO BE OFF TOPIC. WHICH I DONT CARE ABOUT EITHER.

MCsugarcatDunno man but if you are anywhere near a classroom and not simply cooking the lunch or cleaning the toilets I'd say teachers are being overpayed and deserve less.

IF it wasn't an easy ass job there wouldn't be 100 applicants for every 1 position in every school system that isn't located in a major city with a lot of jobs and money. Get out of CHicago/LA/NY and every stupid girl you meet wants to be a elementary school teacher.

(The "HARD" teaching jobs involve little to no teaching and are babysitting awful misbehaving children who don't want to learn.)

Words cannot describe how much I fucking hate you. You're a god damned sponge on society and let me lay out why you are such a piece of filth. First off, you so-called career of scalping tickets brings a foul name to anyone who attempts to associated themselves with Nevada. You can play that shit off in any fashion, mindset, method that you want, but in the end it's a pathetic "career" that you inherited as a result of you living with your fucking parents. You've taken the hobby of preying on the weak and turned it into a profit. You can argue with me all you want (and you will, trust me), but at the end of the day, you that scummy, filthy, no-good mother fucker yelling "I got tickets!" that all of us contributing members of society fucking ignore as we make our way to the sporting event we paid our HARD EARNED MONEY TO GO TO.

SECONDLY...your attempts at trolling people have been mediocre at best. So much so that the majority of NS has taken to ignoring all of your posts. Did you notice that not a single person quoted you until me in 2 pages past your response? Yeah....no one gives a shit about you.

THIRDLY...I actually think that the notions you've put forth are genuine. I don't think your response to my contribution was a troll and was actually a legitimate response. First off, your statistic is completely unfounded and skewed based on my argument. The statistic varies from state to state: raning up to 400/1 in New Jersey and down to 2.3/1 in New York. The majority of development take place after a child turns 12 and before they turn 18. I.e. not elementary. Secondly, you cannot refute the fact that in order to even be considered for a teaching license you MUST have a college degree. Competition in the field should ONLY FUCKING DRIVE SALARY UPWARD. Not warrant a salary decrease. If more cunts were adequately educated, maybe your mother would have known better than to keep you around. The last mother fucking point I would like to make is that the necessity of the job no longer equates to the compensation. MEANING.....your fat ass can live with out a god damn triple fucking cheeseburger. Our children cannot live without a decent Math, English, Science, and History education.

So, in summation. PeppermillReno, you scummy, no good, entitled, poor, despicable, pathetic, no-education, no-moral, no-respect having mother fucking degenerate, NO. If anything, the government should fucking kill you, and take the money that would go to you from fucking welfare and give it to a deserving hard-working mother fucking teacher. You pathetic mother fucker. this site would be better off without your uneducated annoying raunchy ass.

Go die.

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The point of posting in a forum is the polar opposite of what you think it is then. The whole point of a forum is for people to discuss topics. Kind of like what what everyone here is doing right now, with the exception of you.

dope alias too bro, people wouldn't take a three year old seriously so you had to make a new one and ride with the big boys?

I love all the articles that are for the increase always talk about how you can't afford a single room apartment. How about get fucking roommates? You don't need your own place. You can split a room or find a multiple room apartment and split it. These assholes really piss me off, I worked my ass off in school to get a nice internship with a software company that I am making $16/hour and if this passes they'll be making pretty much the same as me? Bull shit.

DlCKI STILL DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT NEW YORK. I MADE A VERY CLEAR POINT, IT JUST HAPPENED TO BE OFF TOPIC. WHICH I DONT CARE ABOUT EITHER.

Okay Ccrewsolider

Who let you on the intrawebs anyway?

CaptainObvious.Words cannot describe how much I fucking hate you. You're a god damned sponge on society and let me lay out why you are such a piece of filth. First off, you so-called career of scalping tickets brings a foul name to anyone who attempts to associated themselves with Nevada. You can play that shit off in any fashion, mindset, method that you want, but in the end it's a pathetic "career" that you inherited as a result of you living with your fucking parents. You've taken the hobby of preying on the weak and turned it into a profit. You can argue with me all you want (and you will, trust me), but at the end of the day, you that scummy, filthy, no-good mother fucker yelling "I got tickets!" that all of us contributing members of society fucking ignore as we make our way to the sporting event we paid our HARD EARNED MONEY TO GO TO.

SECONDLY...your attempts at trolling people have been mediocre at best. So much so that the majority of NS has taken to ignoring all of your posts. Did you notice that not a single person quoted you until me in 2 pages past your response? Yeah....no one gives a shit about you.

THIRDLY...I actually think that the notions you've put forth are genuine. I don't think your response to my contribution was a troll and was actually a legitimate response. First off, your statistic is completely unfounded and skewed based on my argument. The statistic varies from state to state: raning up to 400/1 in New Jersey and down to 2.3/1 in New York. The majority of development take place after a child turns 12 and before they turn 18. I.e. not elementary. Secondly, you cannot refute the fact that in order to even be considered for a teaching license you MUST have a college degree. Competition in the field should ONLY FUCKING DRIVE SALARY UPWARD. Not warrant a salary decrease. If more cunts were adequately educated, maybe your mother would have known better than to keep you around. The last mother fucking point I would like to make is that the necessity of the job no longer equates to the compensation. MEANING.....your fat ass can live with out a god damn triple fucking cheeseburger. Our children cannot live without a decent Math, English, Science, and History education.

So, in summation. PeppermillReno, you scummy, no good, entitled, poor, despicable, pathetic, no-education, no-moral, no-respect having mother fucking degenerate, NO. If anything, the government should fucking kill you, and take the money that would go to you from fucking welfare and give it to a deserving hard-working mother fucking teacher. You pathetic mother fucker. this site would be better off without your uneducated annoying raunchy ass.

Go die.

Still a little drunk from my work evernt. Still pissed. Peppermillreno is still a worthless piece of shit. Seriouls the world would legitimately be better off if that prick dies In a fire all by himself. God damn it you motherfucker, delete your account spare this lovely community your idiocy and fucking insolence.

CaptainObvious.Still a little drunk from my work evernt. Still pissed. Peppermillreno is still a worthless piece of shit. Seriouls the world would legitimately be better off if that prick dies In a fire all by himself. God damn it you motherfucker, delete your account spare this lovely community your idiocy and fucking insolence.

I was waiting for someone to touch that. You didn't just touch it, you kicked down the door and emptied the clip of your minigun, Rambo style.

mirozI was waiting for someone to touch that. You didn't just touch it, you kicked down the door and emptied the clip of your minigun, Rambo style.

IF you kiss his ass a little more he might upvote your karma.

SERIOUS RAMBO SHIT VENTING AT STRANGERS ON THE WEB HOW MUCH YOU HATE THEM!!!

MCsugarcatIF you kiss his ass a little more he might upvote your karma.

SERIOUS RAMBO SHIT VENTING AT STRANGERS ON THE WEB HOW MUCH YOU HATE THEM!!!

You suck. Your "opinions" suck. I don't give a fuck what he thinks of me, but I sure as fuck enjoyed reading him tear you three new assholes.

CaptainObvious.Still a little drunk from my work evernt. Still pissed. Peppermillreno is still a worthless piece of shit. Seriouls the world would legitimately be better off if that prick dies In a fire all by himself. God damn it you motherfucker, delete your account spare this lovely community your idiocy and fucking insolence.

I feel threatened by this got no clue how someone can get this upset at the internet.

Luckily Im sure you are all bark and no bite and if we ever met would probably try and act all cool to me in person and all that shit etc etc.

Ill send you some pictures this winter from Aspen its pretty clear you can't afford to go there ;).

mirozYou suck. Your "opinions" suck. I don't give a fuck what he thinks of me, but I sure as fuck enjoyed reading him tear you three new assholes.

They can't suck that mucch if I got the lowest karma to post ratio on the entire website bitch.

Even skiierman couldn't pull that off.

PeppermillRenoI feel threatened by this got no clue how someone can get this upset at the internet.

Luckily Im sure you are all bark and no bite and if we ever met would probably try and act all cool to me in person and all that shit etc etc.

Ill send you some pictures this winter from Aspen its pretty clear you can't afford to go there ;).

Once again your internet prowess speaks for itself. I'll send you stubs for my 401k and mortgage so you can cry at your mom's house. If we met in real life I'd spit in your face. I'm not stupid, I know a frivolous suer when I see one. I wont contribute to your pseudo-welfare.

CaptainObvious.Once again your internet prowess speaks for itself. I'll send you stubs for my 401k and mortgage so you can cry at your mom's house. If we met in real life I'd spit in your face. I'm not stupid, I know a frivolous suer when I see one. I wont contribute to your pseudo-welfare.

So now you are threatening to spit on me?

Well the 3rd page alone seems worth the price of admission

theabortionatorWell the 3rd page alone seems worth the price of admission

Maybe for you but it made me sad. :(.

I need someone to peg me.

PeppermillRenoMaybe for you but it made me sad. :(.

I need someone to peg me.

I didn't really read through yet but skimmed and seemed like a bunch of people yelling at each other.

I'll go deeper when I get a chance.

theabortionatorI didn't really read through yet but skimmed and seemed like a bunch of people yelling at each other.

I'll go deeper when I get a chance.

Appreciate teh offer to go deeper when you get a chance but I was hoping I'd find a girl to do it.

I worked for 8.50 an hour doing landscaping/grounskeeping on a golf course and had to work my ass off to get a 25 cent raise lol

Scott0_robot0I worked for 8.50 an hour doing landscaping/grounskeeping on a golf course and had to work my ass off to get a 25 cent raise lol

You deserved more, so do these fast food workers.

My argument is that yes, these fast food workers are now getting paid more than a lot of people who may have more challenging jobs, they deserve more to.

Imagine if when women got the right to vote, black people got pissed because they weren't getting what the white women were getting. They then instead of demanding the right to vote, actively tried to prevent women from voting.

Everyone who is working full time deserves a living wage, they don't deserve a 3 bedroom home with a yard, but they deserve the ability to pay their bills. Reward people for working, not keep them in poverty.

Scott0_robot0I worked for 8.50 an hour doing landscaping/grounskeeping on a golf course and had to work my ass off to get a 25 cent raise lol

Im guessing if you got an 80% raise you'd spend and pump a lot more money into the economy than you do now. Probably buy more shit and eat out more.

Give billionaire corporate execs more money and it doesn't go into the economy goes into their bank account/a 5th vacation home/stocks/bonds/etc.

15s for everybody is whats up.

Bernie Sanders for President

Today's minimum wage of $7.25 an hour is a starvation wage. We need to raise that to a living wage, because anyone who works 40 hours a week shouldn't live in poverty.

Yesterday I introduced a bill in Congress to raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour. Add your name to say you support a $15 minimum wage.

The simple truth is that working people cannot survive on $7.25 an hour. Yet more than 30 million people work every day for a minimum wage that is totally inadequate to provide for their families.

Some of those folks shared with our campaign what a living wage would mean for them, and I am honored to share some of their stories with you:

"I could afford to go back to work if minimum wage was $15. It costs my family less for me to stay home than to pay childcare and transportation costs to work for $9.50/hr." - Elizabeth in Ohio

"A $15 minimum wage would mean that my daughter and I could finally stop living paycheck to paycheck." - Jamie in California

"It would make me happy to know the people serving me in restaurants and working in other businesses I patronize are being paid at a higher level that may help them get ahead." - Patricia in Indiana

"As a single mother of two, a $15 minimum wage would mean being able to sleep at night instead of spending countless sleepless hours worrying about how I'm going to keep a roof over my childrens' heads and food on the table...and maybe even be able to keep more than $5 in my savings account." - Nichole in California

"I could pay my bills, get health insurance, save for a car, and groceries...I can barely afford bills at the moment and once the bills are paid, no money is left over for anything else." - Hilary in Florida

"Right now I am making $9.50 an hour. Unfortunately, this is the highest paying job I have ever had and it still is not enough to help me become stable. I was forced to move back in with my mother, which is causing her stress as well because she has to still take care of me after she has already raised 8 children. I feel like a burden and that I should be out on my own, but I'm not. I would be so happy and so content if the minimum wage was raised to $15 in all 50 states! It would mean a new beginning to my life as well as a good start to my mother worrying less." - Abbigail in Wisconsin

Add your name to support a $15 minimum wage.

Sign the petition

"A $15 minimum wage would mean that my daughter and I could finally stop living paycheck to paycheck." - Jamie in California

"As a small business owner, I believe I would benefit from a larger number of Americans feeling secure in their homes and knowing that they will have enough food for their families. I want to live in a country where we all make enough money to meet not just our basic subsistence needs, but also our need for happiness." - Lauren in Iowa

"I could stop living paycheck to paycheck!" - Sally in South Carolina

"I currently work two jobs and go to college full time and I can't afford my own home. I have medical bills that I pay monthly that don't leave me with enough to get by. If the minimum wage were to be raised to $15 an hour, I would not have to work nights and days just to make ends meet. I have a girlfriend, we would like to start a family, but because of finances, this is out of the question." - Eric in Oklahoma

"It would make my life a hell of a lot better." - Sophia in Louisiana

I hope that it is clear how dire it is for millions of people working full time yet living in poverty. We have a moral obligation to help them.

Sign your name next to mine to endorse a $15 minimum wage.

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So should we lower the minimum wage?

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But minimum wage isn't the only thing that causes inflation. Should it just be left behind to rot?

The minimum wage, after being adjusted for inflation, has been falling more and more behind since the 1960's. It went from about $4 in the 30's to about $10 in the 60's and is down to $7 and change now.

Now I'm in favor of an increase, but $15 is too much. And specifying for fast food workers makes me go wut. It's never been over $10 and change in history, so why jump it up so much all of a sudden?

CheddarJackBut minimum wage isn't the only thing that causes inflation. Should it just be left behind to rot?

The minimum wage, after being adjusted for inflation, has been falling more and more behind since the 1960's. It went from about $4 in the 30's to about $10 in the 60's and is down to $7 and change now.

Now I'm in favor of an increase, but $15 is too much. And specifying for fast food workers makes me go wut. It's never been over $10 and change in history, so why jump it up so much all of a sudden?

Robert Raich explains it pretty well in this Huffington Post bit.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-reich/minimum-wage-should-really-be-raised_b_5114747.html

For those who do not want to read it, another major reason is that the cost of things such as healthcare, education, and housing have risen much faster than inflation and more jobs today are in lower paying service industries. It is one of the industries that has returned strongest from the recession.

We have lost a lot of mid level managers/positions in our workforce today who used to make what we generally think of as middle income salaries. The loss of these workers has been mostly absorbed by the top, well actually, completely by the top. Some of those lost salaries should be moved towards the bottom.

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Anyone with a basic understanding of the current economic climate is laughing at you right now.

DlCKBernie Sanders for President

Dudes such a tool

It doesnt need to be 15$ that is crazy i could und r stand getting 10 an hour but 15 is crazy and is going to fuck shit up, no doubt in my mind. I lived fine off 850 an hour it might suck sometimes but i was happy.

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As someone who has studied economics in college, at real state universities, and taken multiple classes, I REALLY REALLY think you dont understand what is happening.

Using an education level as a means of argument is poor form, give me a real reason why increasing the minimum wage will disproportionately affect inflation, and cause massive job losses.

a discussion that needs to happen is what happens to an economy where everything begins to be automated. yes, technology allows us to make things cheaper, and so automation removes many jobs because they are simply less expensive than paying someone for labor over a long period of time. so the companies that switch to automation are saving money - where is all that money going? why don't the consumers see any of the benefits from a more efficient workforce? virtually any job can be replaced by technology given enough time. what happens when automation functions as a significant portion of our societal tasks that need to be taken care of by laborers now? should a basic income be considered, not because people are doing jobs in which they deserve to be paid that much, but there aren't enough high paying jobs enough to support our population? and who should pay this basic income?

i don't know, i'm just really high and throwing out ideas, i don't know too much about this stuff. but it's something i think worth talking about.

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Attacking my credibility wont change the fact that you're wrong.

PeppermillRenoIm guessing if you got an 80% raise you'd spend and pump a lot more money into the economy than you do now. Probably buy more shit and eat out more.

Give billionaire corporate execs more money and it doesn't go into the economy goes into their bank account/a 5th vacation home/stocks/bonds/etc.

15s for everybody is whats up.

Smartest thing anyone has said in this thread.

DlCKSmartest thing anyone has said in this thread.

But the rich people buying vacation homes / stocks / etc are also contributing to the real estate market, the stock market, etc, no? Wasn't that part of the argument for trickle down economics?

CheddarJackBut minimum wage isn't the only thing that causes inflation. Should it just be left behind to rot?

The minimum wage, after being adjusted for inflation, has been falling more and more behind since the 1960's. It went from about $4 in the 30's to about $10 in the 60's and is down to $7 and change now.

Now I'm in favor of an increase, but $15 is too much. And specifying for fast food workers makes me go wut. It's never been over $10 and change in history, so why jump it up so much all of a sudden?

The jump is because, adjusted for inflation, the cost of living in NY is drastically more than it's ever been - or so I'd imagine. Admittedly I don't have statistics on hand, but knowing the situation out here in CA and how much more difficult/expensive it is to get rent in San Francisco and the outlying areas.. I have a feeling it's way higher than before.

Example... I make a pretty modest amount on my paychecks... but after rent and expenses, I come away with almost 1000$ every month to fuck around on.

My friend who makes twice as much as me in San Francisco scrapes the barrel for ramen and has to move out of the city soon in order to make it affordable... which means a longer, more stressful commute for him...

I'd take my situation any day :)

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More incentive to work, more skilled laborers, more productivity, more economic activity. You will see an initial decline overall at first as companies adjust to the new payroll demands but eventually there will be a huge amount of spending. The cost of commodities wont rise because more people will be purchasing them. The cost of housing wont become unaffordable because there will be more first time home owners. Well paid, happy workers are efficient and spend regularly. Underpaid, pissed off workers dont spend at all.

There is no shortage of supply in any market, only a lack of demand due to everyone being so damn poor.

DingoSeanThe jump is because, adjusted for inflation, the cost of living in NY is drastically more than it's ever been - or so I'd imagine. Admittedly I don't have statistics on hand, but knowing the situation out here in CA and how much more difficult/expensive it is to get rent in San Francisco and the outlying areas.. I have a feeling it's way higher than before.

Example... I make a pretty modest amount on my paychecks... but after rent and expenses, I come away with almost 1000$ every month to fuck around on.

My friend who makes twice as much as me in San Francisco scrapes the barrel for ramen and has to move out of the city soon in order to make it affordable... which means a longer, more stressful commute for him...

I'd take my situation any day :)

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/new-york-minimum-wage-fast-food-workers/

mirozBut the rich people buying vacation homes / stocks / etc are also contributing to the real estate market, the stock market, etc, no? Wasn't that part of the argument for trickle down economics?

Rich people dont stimulate micro-economies, they control them.

CaptainObvious.Dub post, but $15/hr is just at or more than the starting salary for a TEACHER in half of the states in the US.

.....where you're required to have a college degree.

How does nobody else see that is fast food workers are going to get paid $15 an hour us great, everybody's pay is probably going to go up eventually fRon this. Other people will try to get the same amount and then our economy will bounce back and then we'll fund the shit out of NASA and then we'll fly to Pluto land on it, and rule the universe, amarica!

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"On the contrary, there are a couple of policies worth considering. The 'living wage' concept works for both employer and employee alike.

A worker working 'normal' or 'full-time' hours should earn sufficient to live frugally, and to be able to put aside something for a rainy day. Pay the worker less, and phenomena such as moonlighting creep into the workplace. Normally, whenever a full-time worker seeks additional work, it's to the detriment to her/his main job. Either tiredness/ fatigue creeps in, Or there becomes a conflict of interest. Neither of these outcomes is good news for the employer. The employee is entitled to sufficient earnings to live on, and to put something away for a rainy day. Anything less is slavery."

mirozBut the rich people buying vacation homes / stocks / etc are also contributing to the real estate market, the stock market, etc, no? Wasn't that part of the argument for trickle down economics?

There is minimal to no trickle down when the top 1% is hoarding the wealth to such extremes you fucking fool.

There used to be a thing called the "lower middle class" its gone and it took less than a generation those people are now lower class not neccessarily on culture or upbringing but because they don't earn a livable wage.

DlCKBernie Sanders for President

Quit bringing Bernie Sanders into every fucking thread. Number 1: IF he gets elected he will die in office because he's so damn old. Number 2: He's a tool.

Also, all those quotes of people are just proving that they are scum and just want a hand out from the government. Making $10 you can get food stamps, so your food is taken care of, and then actually make and stick to a budget. All it really takes is some self control and you'll be fine. Did this for a couple years and was able to save a good bit while I was at it.

For housing, get some roommates, they're really not that hard to find and most places where I am living is about a $350/month rent with roommates. You're not living the high life, but work your ass off and move up in your company or go back to school and make it better. Life is what you make it to be.

PeppermillRenoThere is minimal to no trickle down when the top 1% is hoarding the wealth to such extremes you fucking fool.

There used to be a thing called the "lower middle class" its gone and it took less than a generation those people are now lower class not neccessarily on culture or upbringing but because they don't earn a livable wage.

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mirozI

Stupid mobile.

I never said trickle down worked, I just wanted to ask the question. I'm not an economist lel.