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congrossman.my dad worked at 9/11. he said it smelled fishy
congrossman.my dad worked at 9/11. he said it smelled fishy
CONAIR_BUSCEMIFalse flag operations are covert military or paramilitary operations designed to deceive in such a way that said operations appear as though they are being conducted by outside forces. This gives a nation a pretext to start a war and subsequently make it appear as though they are the victims and are fighting for morally just reasons. Furthermore, those dubious about going to war are enticed to change their viewpoints by way of morally artificial psychological tactics. And it also limits the abilities for opposing interests to stop the war. Whether foreign or domestic, those against the war would be put into the same category as those that they claim carried out the false flag. Governments do it all the time.
Also,
"The relationship between 9/11 and insurance industry money laundering may be a key factor. Silverstein's payment for the WTC destruction of 9/11 was deceitful. He received much more than the reviewed value of the buildings. The insurance companies did not prosecute Silverstein for fraud because it wasn't insurance company money used to pay the settlement. What insurance company pays for the criminal conduct of third parties? There was no 'murderer in hand. As a result, no one act or omission could be identified as having caused the murders. There is no insurance liability, no causality. Life insurance proceeds are not immune from the money-laundering scheme. Insurance rates are based upon claims. The rates and claims remain relatively stable from year to year. (There is a quota system for claims, including traffic fatalities. Many automobile accidents are not accidents.) Any building that was not owned by Silverstein Properties that day oddly remained standing, despite being a lot closer to the two towers that collapsed onto them. However, there was no sufficient evidence to sue Silverstein. Now the quote “pull it” specifically means to demolish a building. However, Silverstein, after two years self-confessed it meant to withdraw all the fire fighters out of WTC7. The insurmountable problem with Silverstien’s statement is that there were no fire fighters within WTC7."
frankspiritoUS governments have shown for decades that they will intervene when and where it suits them. The last thing they need to do to justify any foreign policy is kill 3000 of their own citizens.
Ron Paul agrees
If the government is so sophisticated how come we can barely develop a satellite to do the weather... we may not know the weather between now and 2018 if the old one we have up there now breaks
Food_StampsI agree too.
but what about rogue groups which are beyond the reaches of government and so powerful that they are bound by zero laws of that government? even the president has zero access to these groups who have stolen trillions of american taxpayer dollars for decades for their own rogue agenda...
your example of weather satellites is irrelevant. I could ask, "how could ancient civilizations have technology that they could determine weather, lunar and solar cycles?"
maybe there is even a group of people who want you to believe certain things...
frankspiritoyou interpreted the point about the weather satellite all wrong. the point is, how is it possible that a government so "sophisticated" who could make up this huge scheme (That someone would not of stayed quiet by now) not be able to produce something as simple as a weather satellite.
There is a small group of people over analyzing and connecting points that don't exist. Especially with an event like 9/11 which has so much significance.
People give the government too much credit, they have far less power than most of these people believe. There are plenty of examples supporting things that the government can't do because it's a bunch of idiots in office.
Schemes like this don't go untold. Look at what the NSA did, and it got exposed.
IDK the specifics on 9/11 or care enough to look up tiny details to argue with some bum sitting in his basement using the fault in our country/government to do nothing with their life. But I'm sure someone can argue those points, because they are just that, conspiracy points.
If the government wanted to use an excuse to go to war they wouldn't go through the ridiculousness of 9/11.
Say I'm wrong & the government really does micro manage our lifes.... Play the game, win and become successful, it's not an excuse to not succeed or do what you want to do in life
*DUMBCAN*All I know and care to know about 9/11 conspiracies is that populat mechanics wrote a book in which they debunked every single theory one by one. There's also a YouTube video of a debate between the guys that wrote the book and some theorists, really shows how out of touch theorists are.
*DUMBCAN*There's also a YouTube video of a debate between the guys that wrote the book and some theorists, really shows how out of touch theorists are.
Food_Stampsdidn't interpret anything wrong, you just didn't read my post where I explained that there are groups above any government authority and are even more powerful than we could speculate. Eisenhower warned the nation about this...
"schemes like this don't go untold."
read dr. carol rosin's testimony about famous scientist wernher von braun and you might understand better the "ridiculousness" of their mentality.
frankspiritoyou interpreted the point about the weather satellite all wrong. the point is, how is it possible that a government so "sophisticated" who could make up this huge scheme (That someone would not of stayed quiet by now) not be able to produce something as simple as a weather satellite.
There is a small group of people over analyzing and connecting points that don't exist. Especially with an event like 9/11 which has so much significance.
People give the government too much credit, they have far less power than most of these people believe. There are plenty of examples supporting things that the government can't do because it's a bunch of idiots in office.
Schemes like this don't go untold. Look at what the NSA did, and it got exposed.
IDK the specifics on 9/11 or care enough to look up tiny details to argue with some bum sitting in his basement using the fault in our country/government to do nothing with their life. But I'm sure someone can argue those points, because they are just that, conspiracy points.
If the government wanted to use an excuse to go to war they wouldn't go through the ridiculousness of 9/11.
Say I'm wrong & the government really does micro manage our lifes.... Play the game, win and become successful, it's not an excuse to not succeed or do what you want to do in life
.MASSHOLE.Wait, you do realize this is not really a secret right?
There are PACs and Interest Groups that have more power than we realize due to their deep pockets. Are they above the government? No, but they have people under their control such as senators, governors, generals, CEOs, etc that allow them to push their interests over those of the general population.
frankspiritoyou interpreted the point about the weather satellite all wrong. the point is, how is it possible that a government so "sophisticated" who could make up this huge scheme (That someone would not of stayed quiet by now) not be able to produce something as simple as a weather satellite.
There is a small group of people over analyzing and connecting points that don't exist. Especially with an event like 9/11 which has so much significance.
People give the government too much credit, they have far less power than most of these people believe. There are plenty of examples supporting things that the government can't do because it's a bunch of idiots in office.
Schemes like this don't go untold. Look at what the NSA did, and it got exposed.
IDK the specifics on 9/11 or care enough to look up tiny details to argue with some bum sitting in his basement using the fault in our country/government to do nothing with their life. But I'm sure someone can argue those points, because they are just that, conspiracy points.
If the government wanted to use an excuse to go to war they wouldn't go through the ridiculousness of 9/11.
Say I'm wrong & the government really does micro manage our lifes.... Play the game, win and become successful, it's not an excuse to not succeed or do what you want to do in life
CONAIR_BUSCEMIIf you have time watch this documentary. It does not come to any conclusions and lets the debunkers state their case. If you have time read the book 'The New Pearl Harbor' by David Ray Griffin. If an enemy did not exist, it would be necessary to invent one. Security in the name of freedom has led to the creation of the biggest homeland security apparatus, private military, worldwide military campaigns, defense budgets, security industry, and militarized law enforcement in the world. However after the implementation of the Patriot Act terrorism has gone from being defined as the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims to anyone who threatens the establishment/status quo,
CONAIR_BUSCEMICalls could not of been made at that speed (handoff) and altitude (signal). No static and a cellphone call that lasted almost an hour in flight, I believe it was Flight 93 which reached an altitude of 35000 feet. Listen to CeeCee Lyles cellphone call to her husband, she does not seem distraught and keeps reiterating the point that she is "on the plane, she is On the plane." At the end you can hear her whisper, “it’s a frame.” That being said these calls could not of been placed at that speed and altitude. The only other possible explanation is that those who called their relatives from their cellphones could not of placed those calls from the airplanes in flight and were in a different location entirely.
American Airlines Flight 11, United Airlines Flight 175, American Airlines 77 and Flight 93 flew between 100mph to 200mph over their vmo in the lower stratosphere. Flight 77 flew 130 miles per hour over its vmo suffering no exterior damage at close to sea-level. At 30,000 feet the air is very thin and the airplane can easily travel beyond 500mph without encountering much resistance if at all. As soon as the airplane starts to descend the atmosphere becomes thicker and thicker and the plane needs to reduce its speed in order to preserve its structural integrity. Below 10,000 feet in altitude speeds are recommended at 250mph. All planes have a maximum operating velocity. Should the maximum operating velocity be exceeded a phenomenon known as flutter can occur. Once any plane exceeds its maximum operating velocity the wings, ailerons, and even the fuselage are at risk. Google AirChina 006 which exceeded its maximum operating velocity, the exterior damage can be seen all around the plane.
A 767’s maximum operating speed is 414mph, a 757’s maximum operating velocity is 402mph. Yet on 9/11 all airplanes were flown at speeds close to or beyond 500mph near sea level without suffering any visible structural damage while remaining under control all the way to their designated targets. Flight 11 hit the North tower at 492mph. During the decent of United airlines Flight 175 from 12,000’ to 6,000’ it flew at a speed of 600mph and hit the south tower at 586mph! That is almost 200mph beyond the maximum operating velocity of a 767. Flight 77 hit the pentagon at a speed of 530mph or 130mph over its maximum operating velocity. Flight 93 was able conducted a series of right and left maneuvers at 350mph, then followed by similar up and down maneuvers at 400mph. Yet, the hijacker who was unfit to fly a solo in a single engine airplane was able to perform these maneuvers and fly at a speed of 580mph. Boeing, aeronautical experts/engineers like Ben Eadie, Gordon Wilson and pilots who flew the actual planes allegedly hijacked on 9/11 admit that this is not possible. I am not entirely sure but I think one of the four planes had a Boeing Honeywell Uninterruptible Autopilot system that would detect a hijacking and take full control of the plane.
Russ Wittenburg, pilot of Flight 93 and UA 175, “I don’t believe its possible for a terrorist train on a 172 single engine cessna to jump in the cockpit of a 757, 767 and vertical navigate and lateral navigate the aircraft and fly the airplane at speeds exceeding its designed lint velocity at well over a 100knots. Make high speed, high bank turns, pulling 5 to 7g-force the aircraft would literally break apart in midair, I couldn’t do it and I am absolutely possible they couldn’t do it.”
Can you produce any evidence that a Boeing 767 equipped with regular engines can fly for almost 2minutes beyond 500mph in the lower stratosphere of the atmosphere without suffering any visible structural damage? Can you explain how amateur pilots who had never flown a jet before in their life could maintain full control of an airliner that has exceeded the vmo by almost 200mph? And why would terrorists who have been lucky enough to get within reach of their target want to risk the entire operation by imposing such a stress on the airplane that it would almost certainly cause them to crash before they complete their mission?
If these weren’t the planes that the official narrative states they were than what were they?
Well what we do know is that the CIA had been developing plans for covert operations that involve the in flight swapping of commercial airliners with military drones painted and made to look identical to commercial airliners all the way back in the 1960’s. One such plane detailed how to replace a civil airliner with a military drone in midair unbeknownst to the air traffic controllers. After the swap the airliner would land in a military base (all planes that day jarred back to their target just as they flew over a military base that day.) I believe there is a whistleblower that saw it first hand. The drone would continue to fly appearing on radar as the original plane, it would be remotely guided into the target.
Not saying that this is what happened. Just something to think about. Nevertheless, we need a new, independent investigation into 9/11.
CONAIR_BUSCEMICalls could not of been made at that speed (handoff) and altitude (signal). No static and a cellphone call that lasted almost an hour in flight, I believe it was Flight 93 which reached an altitude of 35000 feet. Listen to CeeCee Lyles cellphone call to her husband, she does not seem distraught and keeps reiterating the point that she is "on the plane, she is On the plane." At the end you can hear her whisper, “it’s a frame.” That being said these calls could not of been placed at that speed and altitude. The only other possible explanation is that those who called their relatives from their cellphones could not of placed those calls from the airplanes in flight and were in a different location entirely.
American Airlines Flight 11, United Airlines Flight 175, American Airlines 77 and Flight 93 flew between 100mph to 200mph over their vmo in the lower stratosphere. Flight 77 flew 130 miles per hour over its vmo suffering no exterior damage at close to sea-level. At 30,000 feet the air is very thin and the airplane can easily travel beyond 500mph without encountering much resistance if at all. As soon as the airplane starts to descend the atmosphere becomes thicker and thicker and the plane needs to reduce its speed in order to preserve its structural integrity. Below 10,000 feet in altitude speeds are recommended at 250mph. All planes have a maximum operating velocity. Should the maximum operating velocity be exceeded a phenomenon known as flutter can occur. Once any plane exceeds its maximum operating velocity the wings, ailerons, and even the fuselage are at risk. Google AirChina 006 which exceeded its maximum operating velocity, the exterior damage can be seen all around the plane.
A 767’s maximum operating speed is 414mph, a 757’s maximum operating velocity is 402mph. Yet on 9/11 all airplanes were flown at speeds close to or beyond 500mph near sea level without suffering any visible structural damage while remaining under control all the way to their designated targets. Flight 11 hit the North tower at 492mph. During the decent of United airlines Flight 175 from 12,000’ to 6,000’ it flew at a speed of 600mph and hit the south tower at 586mph! That is almost 200mph beyond the maximum operating velocity of a 767. Flight 77 hit the pentagon at a speed of 530mph or 130mph over its maximum operating velocity. Flight 93 was able conducted a series of right and left maneuvers at 350mph, then followed by similar up and down maneuvers at 400mph. Yet, the hijacker who was unfit to fly a solo in a single engine airplane was able to perform these maneuvers and fly at a speed of 580mph. Boeing, aeronautical experts/engineers like Ben Eadie, Gordon Wilson and pilots who flew the actual planes allegedly hijacked on 9/11 admit that this is not possible. I am not entirely sure but I think one of the four planes had a Boeing Honeywell Uninterruptible Autopilot system that would detect a hijacking and take full control of the plane.
Russ Wittenburg, pilot of Flight 93 and UA 175, “I don’t believe its possible for a terrorist train on a 172 single engine cessna to jump in the cockpit of a 757, 767 and vertical navigate and lateral navigate the aircraft and fly the airplane at speeds exceeding its designed lint velocity at well over a 100knots. Make high speed, high bank turns, pulling 5 to 7g-force the aircraft would literally break apart in midair, I couldn’t do it and I am absolutely possible they couldn’t do it.”
Can you produce any evidence that a Boeing 767 equipped with regular engines can fly for almost 2minutes beyond 500mph in the lower stratosphere of the atmosphere without suffering any visible structural damage? Can you explain how amateur pilots who had never flown a jet before in their life could maintain full control of an airliner that has exceeded the vmo by almost 200mph? And why would terrorists who have been lucky enough to get within reach of their target want to risk the entire operation by imposing such a stress on the airplane that it would almost certainly cause them to crash before they complete their mission?
If these weren’t the planes that the official narrative states they were than what were they?
Well what we do know is that the CIA had been developing plans for covert operations that involve the in flight swapping of commercial airliners with military drones painted and made to look identical to commercial airliners all the way back in the 1960’s. One such plane detailed how to replace a civil airliner with a military drone in midair unbeknownst to the air traffic controllers. After the swap the airliner would land in a military base (all planes that day jarred back to their target just as they flew over a military base that day.) I believe there is a whistleblower that saw it first hand. The drone would continue to fly appearing on radar as the original plane, it would be remotely guided into the target.
Not saying that this is what happened. Just something to think about. Nevertheless, we need a new, independent investigation into 9/11.
Da_BuddhaOnly for the open minded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75Ja-W5LWVk
