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WOMEN Slopestyle has ZERO chance to make it into the Olympics

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iSki13
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The fact is these women are not Olympic grade athletes and are not showing Olympic grade talent in the slope style.

I was going to drop this rant but then these women showed up on my TV at 12midnight as I was scanning the channels, and what do I see 360's and garbage 540's.

There are female aerialists that can do triples. They work out in the off season and water ramp. Clearly these athletes do not, and if they do, its half ass or not hard enough or else they  would be bringing more to the table and wouldn't be a decade behind the men.

What have these competitors been doing all summer. Clearly they have been on the beach and not training like FIS or Olympic athletes do.

Because if you were training you'd at least bring rodeos, corks and some other gear to the table off 2 or 3 hits, not to mention you would be able to do switch corks or switch inverts. Dont even mention doubles.

There is zero possibility they will let the women slope style into the Olympics, ABSOLUTELY ZERO

I just saw a bunch of 360's and 180's in these girls nationally televised broadcast runs on VS tv.  That is unacceptable for national exposure.

 Its like putting a highschool junior varsity basketball game on ESPN in the middle of a CELTICS game.

I see adolescent immature young women singing crack hip hop garbage to the camera when they finish their run, not stone faced, focused international competitors competing for the pride of their country.

Olympic competitors are athletic machines not some G swagger ass immature girls. USA better be breeding some sleeper competitors and keeping it low, because this is not going to cut it.


Feb 4 2011 12:46AM
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derpina
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Didn't mean for that to come off as yelling just trying to emphasize that. Ha. But yeah, it sucked.
Feb 4 2011 11:49PM
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stanny
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"anna then continued into the jumps with a big switch 540 into a 720, and followed it up by being one of the only ladies to hit the large side of the last jump with a big flatspin 3" - NS report on FIS slopestyle
but thats besides the point, the point is that there is a lack of strive to progress. if women keep saying "o, i only need to do this trick that ive done a thousand times to win, no big deal" when is the progression gonna happen?
Feb 4 2011 11:53PM
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derpina
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They all hit the last jump. No one skipped a feature. Are you reading that wrong?

You need to read the rest of my posts. The progression is going to happen when more females get involved. I'm not going to repeat my point 100 times.
Feb 4 2011 11:56PM
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annex_
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we need more sponsors too. I've been to comps that have 2 girls competing, it's sad. Especially when you compare it to boarding, where some comps are girls only, with 10,000$ purses? what do we have in the way of comps?!
there are some killer girls out there who would definitely progress the sport though.
Feb 5 2011 12:00AM
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stanny
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they didnt hit the large side.. your missing the point, im not arguing about women skipping features, im saying women's skiing has a lack of strive to progress.
ok great, how do you expect more women to get involved? what would make slopestyle more appealing to someone whos never tried skiing before when the trick are similiar technicality wise to womens mogul skiing? someone needs to step up and lead the progression, you cant just sit back and wait for it to happen.
Feb 5 2011 12:02AM
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Sophia_Schwartz
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In my view, there are two main factorsholding women back.

1. Attitude

2. Lack of progressive competitions

1. Attitude: People are always saying women need toprogress, but very few girls are actually progressing not because of lack ofskill or strength or all the bull shit. It’s all attitude. Example: When skiingdown to the chair lift, how many girls throw 3s off of cat-tracts or snowgunjumps? How many do 3s off curbs or stairs when walking around. Girls trainhard, but they don’t goof off like guys do. I believe in the 10,000 hour ruleand right now girls don’t have the numbers. They try to progress by hittingbigger jumps and doing hard trick. They end up getting hurt and have everyreason to be scared. Doing one hundred 3s, 5s, and 7s, off of a 25 foot table makesdoing a 3s, 5s, 7s off a 40 foot jump easier, and so on. If you don’t jump alot you won’t get better and right now a lot of girls (**not all girls) makeany number of excuses and don’t do the numbers to progress. Go to the waterramps; hit lots of little jumps and rail. Put in the work to progress, don’tjust say you are a girl and less talented or weaker. Believe in yourself andput in the hard to work so you canshow it.

2. Lack of progressive competitions: How do youqualify for the X-games? How do you qualify for the Dew Tour? How do you getknown as a girl?

The step from amateur girl to pro girl seemstrickier than it does for guys (simmer down, I don’t mean talent wise butopportunity wise). Other than queens cup, aspen open and now 9-queens, I personallydon’t know of any amateur comps that really allow women to turn pro. Superunknown,KOS, Salomonjib academy, and Gatorade Free Flow have help discovered some of today’s toppros, but how many of them are girls? The current pros need to be pushed, buthow are they pushed if the up-and-coming, hard working, progressing girls can’tenter the scene. Look at Brita, Devin, and Jess start to up the level. Don’t drop girls’ comps because of lackof talent, go out and find the talent that deserves to be there.

Ok well I’m done for now. That my view. Beanger if you want.

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Feb 5 2011 12:04AM
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wazawski
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op made a good point about womens aerials...there are female aerialists that are throwing triples in comps...how much would it suck to be a female aerialist, win a gold medal at the olympics by throwing a triple of some sort and have some freeskier chick win a gold medal in slopestyle by throwing a 720 as her biggest trick?
Feb 5 2011 12:34AM
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loganimlach
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you ever see a women aerialist grab (or attempt to grab) during her trick? this shit is freeskiing, not gymnastics on snow.
Feb 5 2011 3:00AM
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ThaLetterM.
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Honestly, I am admittedly a pretty big hater on women's skiing. But you made an excellent point about lack of opportunity as far as women's contests etc. I really think that as the talent level of female skiing increases (which it HAS to)the amount of opportunities for your average girl park rat will increase. But if the talent level doesn't increase, women's skiing will continue to be ignored
Feb 5 2011 3:06AM
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gnarles.
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mostly agree
Feb 5 2011 3:38AM
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FreeBallin
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"It comes down to this. why should the girls risk more to gain nothing. They risk injury and an end to their career if they try and progress quickly, but no matter what they will still earn the same amount of money.

the risk is not worth the reward right now...is that correct?"

MONEY?! really Ali? Money is the reason that they dont want to progress? If they could make more money, they would throw down?

That statement alone makes me want to fucking puke, I hope your "girl skier friends" punch you in the mouth, for coming on here defending them with "well if they earned more money" argument. Disgraceful.

What about the rest of the ski world(ah..about 99% of us..male and female) who will never make a DIME off skiing?

I guess(using your logic) I shouldnt try any new tricks this weekend, since ya know, I am never going pro or making money off the sports...why risk it? Might as well ski groomers for the rest of my life


Feb 5 2011 9:29AM
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FreeBallin
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Have you a slight clue what the are actually judged upon? Honestly, let me know.
Feb 5 2011 9:40AM
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derpina
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No no no. It's not about the money at all dude. For Dew and X they make the same as the dudes... and that's not even what matters. I guess I interpreted what he was saying wrong because of what I said before it.

P.S. You seriously need to calm down man. This is the internet, and it was a legit convo before your E-temper tantrum. Wow. Take a deep breath and read my other posts before you flip.

I'm not giving the girls excuses, if they had the same amount of athletes as the males they should be a lot better, but they don't.
Feb 5 2011 10:30AM
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undercover_skier
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It's a matter of time, look how long have women been doing slope, give'em time to progress their skiing and you'll see they'll be throwing down some good moves and style , look at the top women on the tour at this time , gurls like Turski,Segal, Lamarre,Logan, Battersby, Herman, they train year round, so as I say it's just a matter of time and more women will get into it.



Feb 5 2011 10:45AM
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undercover_skier
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and in the last 2 years Turski, Lamarre and Battersby have been out with major knee injuries
Feb 5 2011 11:15AM
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Literature
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These threads are always characterized by comparisons that don't cross over: women's tricks vs men's tricks, aerials vs. slope, evolutionary design of men vs women. Lots of people that have commented here  are comparing these things, and making it a competition, as if this is somehow better for "the sport."

But really, who gets to decide what happens to "the sport"? And more importantly, why the fuck do you care about nationally televised coverage? No matter what happens on TV, you'll still head out the next weekend with your friends and go slide down a hill. You'll still go hit urban after school. You'll still wake up with dreams of that three foot dump, and all these things are possible whether you're male or female. "The sport" isn't some thing that industry types, television networks, or resort operators get to decide. "The sport" is shaped by every time someone clicks in on skis, be that you or me, female or male. We should rejoice that we each have the opportunity to shape our own skiing and grow together with the common bond of being able to do WHAT WE WANT.

And instead, people come on NS bitching about how someone is better than someone else. It's FREESKIING. Free. Not regimented. Not controlled. Not subject to your ignorant sexism that only understands skiing by the tricks that are thrown in competition or by who gets coverage or who's on this ski company today.

The biggest problem in skiing is that we have people who, to shore up their own insecurities, decide to shit on what someone else is up to. We can either mutually respect each other, grow together from where we're all at, which is obviously different. Or we can tear each other down as a whole and end up frustrated and unsure. If you subscribe to the latter view, YOU are you the one holding back skiing.

 Leave the sexism and trendwhoring at home. Quit caring about things that don't actually affect you, and go shape "the sport" for yourself by clicking in and having fun, which is the point, last time I checked.

Oh, and I hope all you "get in the kitchen" commentators have fun fapping it for the rest of your lives, because you certainly don't deserve the respect or love of a beautiful woman.
Feb 5 2011 11:46AM
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FreeBallin
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You fucked up and said our pro girls skiers are only in it for $$$$$$$$. Deal with the fucking heat, and if you cant...dont make such stupid statements.

I might bitch about their skiing progression, but you brought money/greed/morals into it(whether you understood what you posted or not). So no, I wont calm the fuck down. That is a huge FALSE statement to make, being made by someone trying to act like they are "best friends" with them(I have read all your posts and your bias opinion is hilarious).

I cant make you intelligent/read threads and posts properly. Jesus Christ

Feb 5 2011 12:14PM
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danbrown
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no im not!
Feb 5 2011 1:05PM
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poptarts4life
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+k for a smart post
Feb 5 2011 1:13PM
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treebeard
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shut up. now you're just attacking for the sake of attacking.
Feb 5 2011 1:29PM
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iSki13
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see its comments like "women are in it for the money and if progressing will not gain them money whats the use in risking it. "

THAT MAKES ME WANT TO BE RUTHLESS

IF WHAT SHE SAID IS THE STATUS OF WOMEN PARK SKIING, THEN,

SOMEONE GET THESE IMMATURE MONEY GRUBBING WHORES OFF OF OUR MOUNTAINS, OFF OF EXPOSURE, THEY HAVE NOT EARNED THEIR PLACE.

WE HAVE A VAGINAL PACT,TO NOT RISK GETTING HURT AND LEECH THE MONEY SYTEMATICALLY.

 THEY PROBABLY JUST DIVIDE UP THE PRIZE MONEY EVERY WEEK AND SPREAD IT AROUND TO ALL THE COMPETITORS THAT LEFT THEIR REAL TRICKS(whatever those are)  IN THE BAG TO KEEP THINGS SAFE

THESE COMPANIES ARE ENABLING THESE LITTLE BRATS TO WHORE OUT THE SPIRIT OF THE INDUSTRY

Not to all females, but the ones applicable under the statement made: YOU MONEY GRUBBING GIRLS ARE LIVING AN ILLUSION LAYER OF FAME IN YOUR HEAD, YOUR THE LAUGHING STOCK OF THE INDUSTRY,

DO YOU THINK ANYONE IS WATCHING YOUR SHIT AND NOT HAVING A LAUGH, TIME MACHINE RUNS FROM LIKE THE YEAR 2003 IS WHAT YOUR SPITTING.

THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PRAISING YOU AND PUMPING YOU UP ARE JUST TRYING TO SUCK YOUR TITS WHICH IS REALLY MAKING YOUR MENTAL STATUS COMPLACENT, DAMAGING THE PROGRESSION.

maybe not all of them but i fell some of them  ARE MOSTLY IN IT TO RAPE POCKETS, RETIRE, BUY A JETTA, A SET OF BREAST IMPLANTS, AND A METRO UPSCALE CONDO NEAR A STRIP OF HIGH HEEL WHORE BARS, AND BRAG IT UP ABOUT WAY BACK WHEN THEY COULD THROW 720's OFF THE SMALLER SIDE OF THE JUMP WOOOO HOOOOOO .

Feb 5 2011 2:43PM
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iSki13
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REMEMBER WHEN YOU WERE GROWING UP PLAYING BASEBALL AND THERE WERE CLEARLY KIDS THAT SUCKED REALLY BADLY,

BUT THEIR PARENTS FILLED UP THEIR HEAD WITH PRAISE AND ACCEPTABILITY, GOOD JOB BLA BLA BLA YOUR DOING GREAT, THE TEAM IS REALLY PUSHING IT, YOU GUYS ARE KILLING IT BLABLA BLA

NOW REMEMBER HOW YOU OBSERVED THEY NEVER GOT BETTER,

 IN FACT YOU THOUGHT IN YOUR HEAD HOW THINGS WOULD BE BETTER OFF WITHOUT WEAK LINKS IN THE CHAIN.

THAT IS WHATS GOING ON.

Feb 5 2011 2:53PM
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paige.
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I don't think it is about the money so much as the competition. As she mentioned earlier, the girls will throw down way harder on a daily basis then they tend to do in competition. When you are in a competition, you are in the competition to WIN not to throw some big new trick that you likely won't land. We regularly see the men who hold off in qualifiers, putting down a run they know they can land and will get them into finals. Even in finals they will often start with a safety run that they are confident they can put to their feet before pushing it so that they can try and win. With the women it is no different, they just can take it a little further because whereas the men basically have to put down the run of their life to win, their safety is often enough. You see it in other sports too - the miracle mile occured in track because Bannister and Landy were even throughout the race and had to give it absolutely everything they had to try and win.
There is no question about whether or not these women train everyday and give skiing their everything, but until there is more competition in the competitions we won't be seeing the evidence of it.
Feb 5 2011 3:02PM
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loganimlach
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Yeah, I do. I was merely attemting to discount the comparisons people were making between womens aerials and freeskiing. Jackass.
Feb 5 2011 4:59PM
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TWoods
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Are you serious?

If ANY girl, not matter what age, background, etc. posted an edit that showed she could throw 10s, some right side stuff, corks, a dub or two, and a bunch of rail tricks (pretty much any AM dude's season edit that we see tons of every year), ANY SKI SPONSOR would pretty much instantly put her on the "pro" team.

Seriously, if any girl could compete with AM guys, she wouldn't even need to compete to stay sponsored.
Feb 5 2011 5:34PM
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McLeod
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haha of any girl could do that trick list shed be making millions
Feb 5 2011 5:35PM
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Wiscompton
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They should put it on Comedy Central if it is in the Olympics lmao. Our school has ESPN on during lunch and me n my friends that ride were shitting our pants at women slopestyle...
Feb 5 2011 7:20PM
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skier_boy26
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Women skiing (and boarding) will never be comparable to men's skiing. Nor should it. But if it is going to be a global competitive level, then it needs to be something more than it is, and it needs to stop accepting and defending mediocrity.

When looking at the summer Olympic Games, some of the most popular events for viewers are things like gymnastics, volleyball, and swimming. Two of those take the cake when the women are out, even though they do not compete to the same level as the guys. But that is fine. There is a perceivable and acceptable level of professionalism and exceptional athletics even in gymnastics, or any other filed I mentioned. When watching women's skiing, in my mind, I see mediocrity. I see sloppy and unrefined. If I saw the same thing in the park on a casual day, that would be sick because there are no expectations or restrictions, but we're talking about marquee events, with massive purses and airtime. The Olympics are a whole different level that trump x-games, dew tour, etc. And to compete in the Olympics should be a privilege, not a right or incentive.
Feb 5 2011 8:29PM
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Twinjibber77
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Title 9 blows more cock than the sluts it applies to.
Feb 5 2011 10:19PM
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marley-skis
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Fuck all you women haters.

If 16 year old is able to do these things than think of whats to come. think of the new generations... or do you all not keep up with girls skiing? it's stepped up more than you guys have seen.

Feb 5 2011 11:35PM
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marley-skis
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^

Feb 5 2011 11:37PM
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marley-skis
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sorry here
Feb 5 2011 11:43PM
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skier_boy26
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if he's only 15, imagine what's to come!


her video wasnt bad, but lets be honest
Feb 6 2011 1:28AM
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skier_boy26
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shitty embed

Feb 6 2011 1:30AM
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Goodlife
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The creator of this thread is super ignorant. I understand the point that a lot of people feel women's skiing should have progressed further than it has, but to say that it has no chance of getting into the olympics is completely wrong.

Also, the comparison against female aerialists is also fairly flawed. Just because an aerialist can do triples, doesn't mean that female slope competitors should be doing them on course. It also doesn't mean that they don't train, water ramp, and work out in the off season.

I have the pleasure of working with and knowing a lot of these athletes, and I can tell you that the female competitors, on average, have a better work ethic in the gym and off season than most of the male competitors.


Feb 6 2011 2:06AM
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Yung_Gnarley
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Yeeeee Emila!!!!
Feb 6 2011 2:08AM
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GayWolf420
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Good lord. So much ignorance and hate. I thought a girl skier is what us guys all love.
Feb 6 2011 2:09AM
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Alex_G
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man i don't know about you but i don't really get along with skier chicks. especially that ski park because they are usually fucking crazy (there are exceptions).

i would rather kick it with a down-ass-certified-bad-bitch who will smoke with me and give me lift/road head not some beezy thats trynna go pro.
Feb 6 2011 2:33AM
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C.L
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this is a fantastic post. The women in freeskiing is not the problem, it is the simple fact that athletic women are far more attracted to mainstream athletic sports
Feb 6 2011 3:44AM
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eheath
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This ends the whole discussion. Women's snowboard pipe is in, women skiing will be too.
Feb 6 2011 3:51AM
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East.
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There are literally almost no actual women freeskiers. Compared to the male population, think about how many girls are actually even utilizing twin tips in the park. They're pussies. Pun extremely intended. Not saying there aren't girls who shred, the judgment is just based on a lesser standard.. Which no one can disagree with. It's societies fault technically, but either way they still suck. Why do you think skateboarding doesnt even translate to girls unless they're butch lesbian types with excess testosterone?.. and even then they still suck.

I guess you can assume girls will just progress as the sport grows and more girls actually ski. That 9 year old already has x games gold claimed for the next 15 years..
Feb 6 2011 6:50AM
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PetriDish
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All the skater girls I know are good-looking and push well enough for hobbyists. The first Fs Heel Big Spin I saw in real life was done by a girl.
Feb 6 2011 6:57AM
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FreeBallin
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See, sometimes I find this hard to beleive.

I grew up admiring Kirsti Leskinen, being from PA and all that.

Now, I see this

http://www.c6jewelry.com/

now I want to PUKE.

Feb 6 2011 10:06AM
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PetriDish
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Why? Because she is the face of a jewelry collection? Why does this induce vomiting in your system?
Feb 6 2011 10:19AM
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FreeBallin
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Because this is the fucking headline on her site.

"Kristi Leskinen is one of the world’s top freeskiers, constantly pushing the limits of the sport."

Sorry, I admired her greatly back in 2004(rodeo 7 anyone?) and i admire her WORK with certain aspect of the sport.

But, where has she progressed in like 5 years?!

Feb 6 2011 11:59AM
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bobandy
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Ski jumping is one of the original winter sports. It is the most watched sport on television in central europe. The highest paid red bull athlete in the world is a ski jumper. It is not a dying sport at all, you just have no idea what you are talking about.
Feb 6 2011 12:26PM
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FreeBallin
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+K
Feb 6 2011 1:32PM
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schmuck
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Fergie hit the nail on the head here. It would be an absolute travesty if the girls were left out, but thankfuly, it's not going to happen.

The funny part about this is, if it was announced that men's skiing slopestyle was in, but women's was left out, all of you hating on the girls would instantly turn on a dime and scream bloody murder, and say it's bad for our sport...and rightfully so.



Feb 6 2011 3:04PM
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undercover_skier
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Couldn't have said it any better, well done schmuck
Feb 6 2011 3:14PM
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DutchhGutss
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Some are really hot just sayin..
Feb 6 2011 3:23PM
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