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THE NEW LOOSE CHANGE VIDEO- You need to watch! for your own sake

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Mattman
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yes, we have all heard of Loose change right here--> http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501

but today, I bring evid. that the US government took part in 911. There is sci. proof of these. Before posting your gay replies, PLEASE PLEASE watch this 1 30min video on the twin towers.

Here's the new video-->

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-6708190071483512003

WATCH NOW and please show this to your parents friends, teachers etc.

It answers some questions that you NEW Yorkers should know.
Feb 7 2007 6:21PM
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wAy2sTeEzY4u
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ok ftp
Feb 7 2007 6:25PM
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A_E
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your a dumbass and i hope you die
Feb 7 2007 6:30PM
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eheath
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Pff, didn't you see that episode of south park? The gov wants us to think they planed it so they look like they have control! duh!
Feb 7 2007 6:33PM
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tBatt
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got bored 35 secs in
is there a sparknotes version?
Feb 7 2007 6:34PM
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newschooler8924
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lol at you excpecting newschoolers to take that seriously. whenever anything political comes up it just gets ugly. im not saying i disagree but this isnt the place. republicans are not going to be converted in liberals and liberals aint going to go to the right because of something posted on a ski site.
Feb 7 2007 6:37PM
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Mattman
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I don't need replies, I know they are going to be stupid but I just want people to watch it.
Feb 7 2007 6:41PM
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Tom.
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mythbusters needs to get on this shit
Feb 7 2007 6:45PM
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Rez4frederick
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hehe, im watching this right now, a great video for sure. im getting pissed at our  gov't though thats for sure
Feb 7 2007 6:46PM
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Tom.
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How funny would it be if one of the terrorists missed?

Feb 7 2007 6:47PM
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slaydave
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watched it... and im speechless... if that really is the case my friend... theres something wrong if people dont revolt... im pissed after watching that... the sick thing is (not sick=good) it is probably true... who knows for sure tho...
Feb 7 2007 7:00PM
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dez22
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You answer that question and I'll watch your shitty college production with a couple of iMacs.
Feb 7 2007 7:01PM
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dez22
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Feb 7 2007 7:01PM
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crooks
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wait so is it the 3rd part?
Feb 7 2007 7:05PM
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newschooler8924
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thats assuming its thousands.
Feb 7 2007 7:07PM
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Rez4frederick
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dude.....why does it need to be a imax quality video to be worthwhile to you?....stfu, they can only use video that was taken at the time, (i.e. the past you cant go back and refilm shit.) 
Feb 7 2007 7:08PM
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T-Wash
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I love that episode. Who took a dookie in the urnial
Feb 7 2007 7:20PM
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skiierman
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Whoever believes that is a dumb ass. All the things brought up in Loose Change have been shot down again and again and again but you still persist saying shit like the buildings was a controlled demolition. I'm not going to go all preaching on it but just going to as you this; does this look like a controlled demolition? Click for larger image

Oh one more side note, if you where actually there, you wouldn't be believing that shit. My girlfriend's dad was one of the guys in charge of the cleanup and it wasn't some clean and collected pile of debris, it was Hell. He doesn't even talk about it with anyone and rarely with his family. It was to much for him as well and quit the State Police and his job with Task Force 1 the next year.
Feb 7 2007 8:30PM
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skier_boy26
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Its an interesting piece, but it's the same fucking thing over and over again. Wasn't practically all of it debunked countless times before?
Feb 7 2007 8:33PM
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rhcp
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loosechange wasnt right the first time, why should i watch it now?

what a fucking waste of time.

Feb 7 2007 8:45PM
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MitchPee
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Mattman, not that I really ever had any respect for you, but I've lost any sign of that. You honestly believe that the "evidence" put fourth in this video is enough to put the most deadly attack on America in the past 100 years on the blame of the US government. I saw no different points in this video than I did in loose change.

They spent 30 mins saying steel doesn't melt just by jet fuel. No fucking shit, we determined that before, but it can be weakened. Tests are great, and engineering reports of what buildings are supposed to be able to handle are also great, but they are speculations. Mathematically it is impossible to tell to what degree a building can stand. There are so many different factors that it is impossible to calculate exactly what temperature and weight a building can withstand to. Things like windspeed, ground vibration, etc can be underlying factors in an investigation. I'm willing to bet you have no personal experience with 9/11 and the only means of information you have come from the internet and TV.

Who the fuck are you to make judgments like this? It's very easy to skew interviews, just ask Michael Moore, he did a damn good job when people in his interviews were quoted as never meeting the man yet they produced lines for his movies. I find it downright pathetic that an online video can convince you that a government plotted 9/11 and Bin Laden was just a whole big conspiracy.

I mean the USS Cole never even happened right? The MAK never actually fought off Russians with CIA funds and Pakistani training. There is too much history to be denied by a simple video saying that it looks and sounds like a controlled demolition.
Feb 7 2007 9:15PM
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Canuker
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FUCKED UP!
Feb 7 2007 9:24PM
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*Fujative*
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hey man, i have not seen you on here in a while
Feb 7 2007 9:26PM
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ferrinski86
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Very well put. Your right, people dont understand the history of things. you cant just deny all of the history.
Feb 7 2007 9:29PM
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KravtZ
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iv seen it and after seeing it i could beleive it
Feb 7 2007 9:36PM
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Capt.Flannel
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www.loosechangeguide.com .... just so you can see that everything that in the original joke of a movie is easily debunked.
Feb 7 2007 9:39PM
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Capt.Flannel
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ahaha I particularly like the beginning... "after spending much time researching ON THE INTERNET..." well it must be true then!
Feb 7 2007 9:40PM
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Capt.Flannel
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This movie is actually very well made. Much better than the original Loose Change.
Feb 7 2007 9:45PM
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Mattman
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OMG, watch the fucking second link. I'm just putting up loose change as an example. I hope you guys didn't watch loose change again. The new Video is NOT LOOse Change. The only reason I put that in the title was to grab your attention and it did. Wow.. watch the second link.

Feb 7 2007 10:23PM
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MitchPee
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I did watch it...

Are you going to respond to my post or pretend like it didn't happen?
Feb 7 2007 10:28PM
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Capt.Flannel
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I've been fighting the notion that our gov't was possible of something like this for soooo long, and seeing videos such as Loose Change just made my reluctance more prevalent. BUT, after watching this video, it's so difficult to ignore basic facts presented to you. It's not like Loose Change, where they took one thing and skewed it to fit the profile of their movie. It's an actually great movie that challenged everything that I've fought to believe in.

Watch this; whether you agree or disagree isn't the issue. Even if you don't think that it's true that our Gov't had a hand in 9/11, then you shouldn't have any problem watching something that challenges your (hopefully strong) beliefs.
Feb 7 2007 10:29PM
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skiierman
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We did. I wasn't going to waste my time watching that shit again so I watched the new one and it's the same old shit.
Feb 7 2007 11:11PM
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leckett1
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hey mattman i think bristolrider has more posts than you...time to get him banned eh!
Feb 7 2007 11:13PM
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Ryno
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hahahaha

Word.
Feb 7 2007 11:14PM
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Mattman
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Bump
Feb 8 2007 1:51PM
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=FLO=
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Yes it absolutely does, solid steel buildings can't fall straight down at the speed of gravity from a jet fuel fire. Oh and why did WTC 7 fall? A plane did'nt even hit it. Watch the slow mo of it buckling in the middle, a perfectly executed demolition. Why would everyone report hearing explosions in the basement?

This video is scary and everyone needs to watch it no matter what you believe.
Feb 8 2007 2:34PM
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Mattman
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Best Post I've seen in a long time, dead right.

WTC7?
Plane/missile hitting petagon?
Flight 93...? come on

and of course WTC's
Feb 8 2007 3:00PM
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KZA
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do you know the source of this at all? for all you know this is complete bullshit, for all you know it is, but shit like this causes informational cascades. this is what im learning about in my philosophy class, do you know the source in any way to you know the validity in any way to be able to make such strong agreements like this. Its called doing your own research buddy and not just watching youtube movies
Feb 8 2007 3:20PM
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KZA
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and from the beggining he says he was determined to prove the guy wrong, and after doing research on the internet.  realll mature
Feb 8 2007 3:22PM
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skiierman
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Demolitions do not start at the middle of buildings and even with steel buildings, they fall straight down. They do not fall over sideways.
Feb 8 2007 3:51PM
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Mattman
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skiierman, watch the video agian and agian. There were "bombs planted weeks before 911" and yes some demolistions go sideways. IF you looks at the vid. At the base of Ground Zero there are steel structures that are cut sideways. NEver in History is that Gas Fuel would bring down Steel buildings. People could got to use common sence.

And what about the squarls (sp) what ever they are called. YOu can see them 20 feet down while it is collapsing. There were bombs planted underneath the building. Some eyewitness were right there when they talk to reporters. At the bottom of the twins towers, why were the glass blown out?

Some many questions! no answers
Feb 8 2007 4:05PM
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leckett1
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yea so i guess thousands of lives were part of this controlled demolition as well? they decided to ruin one of their most important buildings and kill thousands of people while they were at it? there must be an explanation for the explosions at the bottom. also i watched a video of one of the buildings collapsing and there was no explosion at the bottom. it began collapsing from the top down. the weight of the debris up top falling from the crash is what caused the building to collapse. just some food for thought.
Feb 8 2007 4:10PM
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Mattman
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Underground, in the basements.

Also, 300 million people live in the US. Under 3000 people die. Its a small price to pay if you are the government. O, sorry what was the the reason the US attacked Iraq? um.. err. wait Oil there we go and how many billions of dollars has the US spent! The war has been going on for years and nothing has been accomplished, Saddam H. was killed.. big deal. Look at the country now and look at Bush's aprrovl rating. I'd be supried if anyone supports the war in Iraq for a good reason.
Feb 8 2007 4:14PM
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almostaskier
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so... people PROVING you guys wrong, over... and over... and over again... and yet you continue to jerk each other off at the slightest bit of "anti-government" dissension...

you're a moron.

WTC7 fell because of a MASSIVE fire that weakened its structure. Last i checked, fire spreads, without the need of planes hitting anything...

Plane/missile hitting the pentagon? debunked... over, and over...

I mean, i could go on, but i won't.

what are you trying to prove matt? You don't even have the time to write out "evidence" and "scientific" in your post, so im to assume you took the time to think rationally? bullshit.

If you think you're being noble... you're basically saying that no one died at the WTC. your main concern is to prove that the government did it, not search for any kind of justice.

for the love of everything holy and logical, shut the hell up, and continue your orgy of conspiracy nuts elsewhere. Im guessing you and FuckThePolice would get along well.
Feb 8 2007 4:17PM
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almostaskier
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um, duh? it would take thousands of people to cover that up, at the airports alone...
Feb 8 2007 4:18PM
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leckett1
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did you just sarcastically say saddam was killed as if its no big deal? i honestly cant take you seriously man...
Feb 8 2007 4:21PM
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Mattman
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Haha you think a fire, a fire would take down a steel building.. come on give me a break. Do you even know whats inside WTC7..? hello

debunked?.. where the video of the plane hitting it! There is no videos. The videos were taken by the FBI and why haven't they been avaiable to the public.

noble..give me a break I want people to know that there is something more too it then what the media tells you.
Feb 8 2007 4:22PM
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Mattman
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yea, well I really don't care what you say Lek. Its personal between You and I and thats it.
Feb 8 2007 4:26PM
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skiierman
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The glass would get blown down by the air being forced out of the building while it was collapsing.
Feb 8 2007 4:26PM
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KZA
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im not taking any sides here. but i think you overread my post. how do you know what this video is telling you is the truth? could just be another lie? the whole thing about informational cascades is that its so easy for someone to say something and people to just believe it. until you have some research yourself to who made the video and even facts in it, you should suspend your judgement about if its the truth or not. All im sayin is you shouldnt be quoting eveyr single fact in an online video that you yourself know very little about im asuming
Feb 8 2007 4:31PM
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almostaskier
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TRIPLE POST!!!!

Look, the basic fact that you want me to buy what you're selling when you don't even know how to spell particular pieces important to your argument or enunciate any logical thought clearly makes me wonder.

how much time have you spent playing xbox or researching the web for the things you want to hear? a lot?

If you were to use common sense, you would realize that STEEL DOESN'T NEED TO MELT TO MAKE A BUILDING COLLAPSE, it only needs to be weakened, and a shit hot fire would do that, even to steel. Seen the wreckage? It's twisted, mangled, not melted or some pool of ooze...

You know why you see plumes of smoke exiting the building below the falling debris? Ever heard of compressed air you dumbass? Lemme spell it out for you:

lots of shit falling that's weewy weewy heavy + air with nowhere to go = air being expelled through easiest exit (ie, WINDOWS!!!).

Seriously, int he case of a tower collapse, to say it was anything else than the tower collapsing due to a weakened structure by a fire, you're have to be pretty damn sure what NOT to expect if that were the case. In this case, it is totally normal to observe plumes of smoke coming out before the tower has completely collapsed because of COMPRESSED AIR. Seriously, it's like arguing with a two year old about how to do calculus...

It only looks like a controlled demolition, if you're reeeeeaaaaallllly looking for a controlled demolition...

So many questions! So little brain capacity to think logically about it! Don't confuse me with the facts! I've made up my mind!

Also, no shit the USA went to war for oil. Seriously, why the hell is anyone surprised? The only reason anyone has ever gone to war has been for personal gain, either that of the state or a person. Ideology often masks that fact, but everyone fights to protect their own assets. The USA went to war for oil, because they need to secure their oil supply to keep this entire world stable. The USA falls, so does everyone else... Doesn't mean the war was morally justifiable, but it sure as hell was int he grand scheme of how this world works...

OMG! the USA went to war for oil! this means 9/11 was a hoax!

Holy crap man, snap out of it...

So many questions, and you're too much of an idiot to realize that you don't want the answers.

Feb 8 2007 4:32PM
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