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beer.
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Mainstream rap has not progressed at all over the years, if anything its gotten worse. The rhymes have gotten more intricate, but its the same old guns sex drugs and money shit. N.W.A., Tupac, and other early thug rappers were sort of original, but I wonder if rap is ever going to progress. It reminds me of the attitudes during McCarthy or after 9/11, where everyone was trying to say "I'm more patriotic than you." Basically every rapper is trying to be more hardcore than the rest, which has led to most rappers being talentless, 2d, static people caught in a lifestyle that is 99 percent bullshit. Rap music has a unique advantage in that rappers can actually get points across to their listeners very well. I'm not talking about idiots like Jadakiss bashing Bush, I would actually like to hear some mainstream rap that has a meaning.

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Jun 11 2005 4:20PM
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SteveStepp
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thats why I listen to undergorund hip hop

all that MTV crap is so damn annoying
all its about is poppin' a bottle of bubbly in the club

nobody fucking cares about niggers and their bubbly




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MdanteL
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my guess is u just listen to the singles of artists and dont listen to the whole album and if thats the case then your probablly right but to say rap is progressing is the dumbest shit i've ever heard... the greatest rapper of last 5 to 10 years is and was Jay-Z, he has and is still progressing rap more then any other form of musi.c.. for example he stood on stage for 5 mins at summer jam didnt say a word n all u heard was hova hova.. there are few ppl in the world who have that type of power, and b/c power is everything the power of ra is definatly progressing

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Jun 11 2005 4:25PM
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beer.
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Wow, standing on stage and silently bragging is progression? Jay-Z is one of the few mainstream rappers I can stand, but this just proves my point once again. Mainstream rap is nothing but macho, bragging bullshit with a nice beat. Underground hip hop is good but its virtually unknown in my school, and it lacks high production and super-catchy beats that mainstream rap has.

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Jun 11 2005 4:29PM
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Jun 11 2005 4:37PM
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jib-unit00
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I don't like much of it either, but hey, they are doing something right to earn millions and millions of dollars

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Jun 11 2005 4:37PM
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CTD
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this is the attitude that most people have towards rap. and honestly, id say rap music is just that- heavy baselines and crappy ryhmes about cars, bling, and stupid, pointless shit. Rap music is pretty much used interchangably with hiphop, which is wrong. hip hop, especially the underground stuff, is rediculous. i mean, straight up mind blowing. i listen to all sorts of music, all genres, and mostly indie and underground stuff, and i have no doubts in saying that hip hop is by far the most insightful, skillful, and most artisitic genrees of music in the present day. seriously underground hip hop is straight up, insane. nothing comes close. dont beleive me? check out these groups:


Blackalicious- (definatly a favorite)
Aesop Rock
Army of the pharaohs
Jedi Mind tricks
Atmoshpere
DL incognito
Heirglyphics
People under the stairs
Zion I
Spearhead
Souls of Mishcief

thats just some of the shit i have on my comp, but trust me, explore the genre. crazy shit. and oh yeah, Jay Z fuckin sucks. hes overrated, his freestyle ryhme skills arnt all that great, and hes been outta the game for a long time. back when he was fresh, he was listenable. but withen the past 5 years or so, hes a joke.






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Jun 11 2005 5:01PM
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delete2
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Get illmatic by nas.

Jun 11 2005 5:04PM
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jib-unit00
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Yea, there is deffinetly some good mainstream stuff like nas and jay-z...but underground is where its at...listen to gift of gab

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Jun 11 2005 5:11PM
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1080ski
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blackalicious and a fewo f the other bands you listed are insane. i love there music. blackalicious goes into crazy rhyme parts of his music, for example, listen to if i may, int he begining its amazing to just listen to what he says.

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Jun 11 2005 6:08PM
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(Jonesy)
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best rapper from past five or ten years is Jay-Z? don't make me laugh. Biggie or Pac would be the correct answer on that one, especially since Jay-Z steals half of his shit from biggies raps. Jay-Z is so fucking mediocre. any underground cats could tear the roof off of that fake motherfucker.

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Jun 11 2005 6:17PM
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CTD
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yeah, for shure. blackalicious pretty much = gift of gab. and yeah, by far my favorite group.



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Jun 11 2005 7:26PM
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bmxican_89
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immortal technique

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Jun 11 2005 7:40PM
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danbrown
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how are you gonna say that underground hip hop doesn't have super catchy beats? you're listening to the wrong stuff my friend.



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Jun 11 2005 7:48PM
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JoeTheRipper
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to further understand your argument I have to ask you good sir, what do you consider mainstream hip-hip

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Jun 11 2005 8:27PM
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switch_9
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i was really into rap about a month ago but im like sick of it now.

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Jun 11 2005 11:58PM
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SteveStepp
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yea dude
Immortal kick ass




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Jun 11 2005 11:59PM
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CTripper
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Jun 12 2005 10:49AM
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Apple
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Im going to put a third word in for Immortal Technique. He is quite possibly the best MC i have ever heard. His rhymes are increadible, he has good messages, he can tell stories in his songs like no one else, and he has some really catchy beats. Not to mention how on the ball and "real" he is.

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Jun 12 2005 10:57AM
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hucker22
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sick of mainstream? well at least the bling bling of it? try these artists

aesop rcok
cannibal ox
murs
c rayz
mf doom
el-p
mr lif
atmosphere
common
biggy
tupac
run dmc
old will smith (summertime, parents just dont understand)
the roots
wutang clan
brother ali
blueprint


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Jun 12 2005 1:39PM
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beer.
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I listen to all those guys, but their CDs are expensive and hard to find, so I've only downloaded a few songs. Mostly I just listen to them on ughh.com.

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Jun 22 2005 2:29PM
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Jun 22 2005 2:33PM
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E-ZRider
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thats why u have to listen to underground rap it really dank

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Jun 22 2005 2:34PM
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RastaSkier9
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Wow Jay-z best rapper! he is horrible. He made a version of Tupacs "me and my girlfirend" which is about him and his gun, and turned it into some bunk ass love song. Yes rap has gotten way worse from the times of Easy-E, Doc. Dre, Pac, and BIG. But you guys are missing the one group that will always be the best for nowadays BONE THUGS N HARMONY


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Jun 22 2005 2:40PM
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highfive
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The rap you see on MTV/BET/VH1 is not the artistic and real side of the music. That's just what sells, and the industry has capitalized on it and capitilized on all the rich white boys who wanna pop in they're Jay-Z CD's and act hood.

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Jun 22 2005 2:45PM
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mommy
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mainstream beats are horrible. fuck THEM.

Jun 22 2005 3:41PM
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Leckett
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not my kind of music. its all about metal

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Jun 22 2005 6:00PM
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freezed
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haha....wu is so mainstream...most of those guys are good though.

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Jun 22 2005 6:04PM
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Danger.
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you can hardly ever say a mainstream rap beat is terrible. the producers for mainstream rap are some of the best. Dr. Dre, Scott Storch, Kanye West, ?uestlove. What are you guys talking about?

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Jun 22 2005 9:32PM
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D-40
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Pete Rcok has to be one of the best producers i have ever heard.

Jun 22 2005 11:07PM
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Hef
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this is a wise man!

Jun 23 2005 2:30AM
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Gnarshred
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i thought i hated rap but it turned out i just hated the mainstream stuff. i really like deltron 3030, jedi mind tricks, and blackalicious.

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Line720
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Immortal Technique is sick, meaningful underground rap.

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Jun 23 2005 7:52PM
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mattyb.
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yea no main stream is good, i enjoy some funny songs by ying yang twins, but underground is where its at. everyone at Baby Grande records are real good like AOTP, jedi mind trick(new cd coming out WITH jus allah), outerspace, 7L and esoteric

all the good stuff

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Jun 24 2005 10:36AM
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Detective
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check out therevhiphop.com for a good new underground artist. progressive beats, hot flows. indie rap.

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