Big ups to Fischer for this one. The nightstick 97 absolutely rips, they really snapped on this one. Just got them in a few weeks ago and was using them for some end of season park laps at my local bump in Ohio and they had me hitting tricks I ain’t ever hit before and they felt great while doing so. Now I’m out at Whistler for the week and had the chance to take these bad boys on some real big mountain terrain and man oh man. Felt like I was driving Ferrari while pounding cliffs and cranking turns in the backcountry. On the way out I’m flying down the groomers cranking some high g turns whizzing by the 50 year old retired racers leaving them and their Solomon’s in awe. Then all in the same day Im launching jumps and sliding rails feeling like an x games caliber athlete. Fantastic ski, 9/10, not official review, shout out Fischer
Another thing about these metal laminate skis I feel like you need to size up. For me I wasn't prepared for the speed and balls something like the sender free 110 gave me. Once I started skiing it how it wanted to be skied I realized it was too short. Weird.
BallClapperAnother thing about these metal laminate skis I feel like you need to size up. For me I wasn't prepared for the speed and balls something like the sender free 110 gave me. Once I started skiing it how it wanted to be skied I realized it was too short. Weird.
You actually typically want to size down on metal laminate skis. Of course the profile and mount has more to do with it but usually metal skis are flat tailed and rearward mounted and as such typically ski longer (i.e. commander series, vantage ti series, redsters etc)
So most manufacturers will tell you to size down when in doubt. You just don’t see as many metal layered skis with a forward progressive mount and twin tips. Though they do exist.
PartyBullshiitYou actually typically want to size down on metal laminate skis. Of course the profile and mount has more to do with it but usually metal skis are flat tailed and rearward mounted and as such typically ski longer (i.e. commander series, vantage ti series, redsters etc)So most manufacturers will tell you to size down when in doubt. You just don’t see as many metal layered skis with a forward progressive mount and twin tips. Though they do exist.
I mounted my sender free's -1.5 true center. The ski is 184 and I'm just above 6'2" and 170 lbs.
BallClapperI mounted my sender free's -1.5 true center. The ski is 184 and I'm just above 6'2" and 170 lbs.
Ya like I said the ski shape will have a lot to do with it. The sender isn’t a flat tailed ski. It’s also not really a full metal layered ski either. It has metal under foot at the mounting plate but doesn’t extend fully forward and rearward like a true metal layup ski.
The nightstick falls into this same category. It has metal reinforcements but not a full metal layup. That’s the big difference. It’s not a true metal layup ski with a near flat tail which is what I’m talking about. A typical metal layup ski is going to be a flat tailed layup with longer inserts of metal throughout the whole ski. Those skis you typically do not size up on. You size down.
on my commander 98 or my vantage ti which are both full metal layered skis would be massive if I sized up with the flat tail and rearward mounts.
whats the flex like on them, they sound sick asf might get a pair next season.
big_sauce69whats the flex like on them, they sound sick asf might get a pair next season.
The tails are definitely on the stiffer side but the noses are fair bit softer. Soft enough to butter them but stiff enough to handle higher speeds and chunky snow
A great ski made by a company with racer roots? I never woulda guessed :)
**This post was edited on Mar 28th 2024 at 7:57:31am
geez buddy, I’m looking for a twin tip ski around 100 underfoot with a simular flex to this that carves very well and is intended to be skied in the -3 from center range. Is this that ski? lmk
Voyage86geez buddy, I’m looking for a twin tip ski around 100 underfoot with a simular flex to this that carves very well and is intended to be skied in the -3 from center range. Is this that ski? lmk
You couldn’t possibly find a better ski. This is also actually the first time in awhile I have opted to mount back from true center due to how well it skis set back, even in the park.
SteezMaster68You couldn’t possibly find a better ski. This is also actually the first time in awhile I have opted to mount back from true center due to how well it skis set back, even in the park.
so where do you have them mounted?
Voyage86so where do you have them mounted?
I have them mounted at the +2 mark which is abt 3-3.5cm back from true center. I have it mounted there with the intent to ski mostly park and it feels like that +2 mark is the sweet spot. However if you plan on doing more all mountain skiing I would probably mount it at the recommended “center” mark which is a bit farther back. When I had these skis at whistler their was a few times especially in the back/side country that I wish I had it mounted back a little more but they still performed solid
**This post was edited on Mar 30th 2024 at 6:47:22pm