Yo! If there's any ski/outdoor filmmakers that want homies to talk to about bettering their storytelling/creative abilities, there's a group I host where we meet on zoom every week. It's hard to find people to talk to about making creative work so I thought if anyone was in need I'd put this up. Cheers.
Aug 4 2022 2:50AM
msauerbreyYo! If there's any ski/outdoor filmmakers that want homies to talk to about bettering their storytelling/creative abilities, there's a group I host where we meet on zoom every week. It's hard to find people to talk to about making creative work so I thought if anyone was in need I'd put this up. Cheers.
Hey! I’m super interested, when does this happen? The link was being weird.
stoked you’re doing this!
Aug 4 2022 1:27PM
AbiHHey! I’m super interested, when does this happen? The link was being weird.stoked you’re doing this!
Yo stoked you're interested! We meet weekly over zoom on Wednesdays but I'm trying to start a second group at a different time.Try this link: http://www.patreon.com/changethewrlds, and if it doesn't work just email me! maxcsauerbrey@gmail.com
Aug 5 2022 1:54AM
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Aug 5 2022 6:47PM
Yeah sorry, I really want to bite here but I can't wrap my head around buying a patreon subscription just to join a zoom call and discord server.... it really seems like you want to offer and create a community that I know doesn't publicly exist online right now, but making it paid access is commodifying something that most can find for free. Are there additional resources you are offering that I am missing?
Solidifying a discord community is hard enough when free, so I tend to doubt the longevity of the group when I have to pay for it. In my experience everyone will either mesh well and form their own sub-communities, or they won't and will no longer feel the need to pay for something they're not getting much out of... it's quite the catch 22 and the bane of many a server.
just some honest feedback, best of luck
Aug 17 2022 9:59PM
JAlpsYeah sorry, I really want to bite here but I can't wrap my head around buying a patreon subscription just to join a zoom call and discord server.... it really seems like you want to offer and create a community that I know doesn't publicly exist online right now, but making it paid access is commodifying something that most can find for free. Are there additional resources you are offering that I am missing?Solidifying a discord community is hard enough when free, so I tend to doubt the longevity of the group when I have to pay for it. In my experience everyone will either mesh well and form their own sub-communities, or they won't and will no longer feel the need to pay for something they're not getting much out of... it's quite the catch 22 and the bane of many a server.
just some honest feedback, best of luck
Thanks for your feedback! Lots to think about.
Aug 18 2022 2:10PM
WoFlowzI can talk to my homies about filming for free 😐
Hey! First appreciate the feedback as part of the reason I posted this is to get feedback on the idea. One of the main reasons I charge is people feel more compelled to consistently come back and complete creative work when they're paying to get the feedback on it. If I had a group of friends that meets weekly I'd also be less likely to not go or make an excuse not to go when I'm not paying for it. Another reason is I didn't have a group of homies that would hold me responsible for creating on a weekly basis so I felt like I'd create one. Last reason is I want to make it a formal website and grow to other types of groups and as a business to better the experience for all involved, and I need to charge money to raise funds to do that.
Would love to hear your thoughts on what I said above and if there's any way I can make this more clear to people who would potentially sign up let me know!
Cheers, Max.
Aug 18 2022 2:13PM
WoFlowzI can talk to my homies about filming for free 😐
Also if you want to try it for free here's the link to next weeks meeting, maybe you can see what I'm talking about...
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Aug 18 2022 2:13PM
AbiHHey! I’m super interested, when does this happen? The link was being weird.stoked you’re doing this!
Here's a link to next week's meeting if you want to try it out for free!
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Aug 18 2022 2:29PM
TRVP_ANGELDamn 7$ a month just to talk about stuff on the first page of google
Hey! Thanks for the response. First of all It's my mistake that it seemed like it was $7 a month as it is $5. Second, if you want to come try it out for free to see why we think it's worth it here's the link! I'd love to hear your thoughts face to face haha. We meet Wednesday's at 5:30 MST
Aug 18 2022 2:47PM
JAlpsYeah sorry, I really want to bite here but I can't wrap my head around buying a patreon subscription just to join a zoom call and discord server.... it really seems like you want to offer and create a community that I know doesn't publicly exist online right now, but making it paid access is commodifying something that most can find for free. Are there additional resources you are offering that I am missing?Solidifying a discord community is hard enough when free, so I tend to doubt the longevity of the group when I have to pay for it. In my experience everyone will either mesh well and form their own sub-communities, or they won't and will no longer feel the need to pay for something they're not getting much out of... it's quite the catch 22 and the bane of many a server.
just some honest feedback, best of luck
Thank you so much for the honest feedback! I appreciate you taking the time. Here's the reasons why I charge/responses to your questions...
1) First of all I don't know of another place that exists where creative people meet weekly to discuss their creative projects/give feedback face to face. There's a lot of strictly discord groups but no face to face. That face to face feedback and relationships/friendships that have been formed through the conversation are invaluable, and are something that can't exist through chat.
2) Additional resources. Part of the fun is when you join the conversation, you receive two stickers in the mail. One for you, and another with a QR code on the back that you give to someone who you think would benefit from the conversation. SO the members build the community through word of mouth to ensure quality/contributing members exist in the conversation, not through ads.
3) On the note of quality/contributing members of the conversation. If I made the conversation free and available to everyone, there would be a significant amount of trolls/people who aren't taking it seriously that would join and ruin the experience for those there that are trying to learn/improve their work. It's all fun and games until you put your money down, so the people that go through with it mean business and are there because they care.
4) If people meet through the patreon, form a solid group that meets weekly and decide to leave so they can do it for free, then fuck ya! That means I did my job and connected like minded people who can help each other. I like to think of the conversation as a way to introduce people to a wide variety of perspectives they wouldn't have had unless they had joined.
5) If you read through all this it means you care, which I appreciate, so here's the link to next week's conversation you can try out for free, we meet at 5:30 MST on Wednesdays:
https://us06web.zoom.us/j/83680222911
Cheers, and thanks for everything,
Max
Aug 18 2022 2:48PM
rojo.grandeSomeone needed to say it.
If you have doubts come try out next weeks meeting for free! We meet at 5:30 MST on Wednesdays, Here's the link:
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Aug 18 2022 2:53PM
msauerbreyHey! First appreciate the feedback as part of the reason I posted this is to get feedback on the idea. One of the main reasons I charge is people feel more compelled to consistently come back and complete creative work when they're paying to get the feedback on it. If I had a group of friends that meets weekly I'd also be less likely to not go or make an excuse not to go when I'm not paying for it. Another reason is I didn't have a group of homies that would hold me responsible for creating on a weekly basis so I felt like I'd create one. Last reason is I want to make it a formal website and grow to other types of groups and as a business to better the experience for all involved, and I need to charge money to raise funds to do that.Would love to hear your thoughts on what I said above and if there's any way I can make this more clear to people who would potentially sign up let me know!
Cheers, Max.
Thanks for the response Max. Loved your dirt diaries video. Part of my response is being a cheap teenager but also because me and my friends already talk about filming along with other NSer’s outside of here on FT, over text etc. I can understand why you may be charging for this now, especially if it helps keep people engaged, giving it a bigger platform with that. I can also understand that not everyone has a group of people to converse about things they’re passionate about. Will do my best to make it too the next meeting just too see what it’s about!
Aug 18 2022 3:18PM
WoFlowzThanks for the response Max. Loved your dirt diaries video. Part of my response is being a cheap teenager but also because me and my friends already talk about filming along with other NSer’s outside of here on FT, over text etc. I can understand why you may be charging for this now, especially if it helps keep people engaged, giving it a bigger platform with that. I can also understand that not everyone has a group of people to converse about things they’re passionate about. Will do my best to make it too the next meeting just too see what it’s about!
Flowz couldn’t have said it better. Cheers for the in depth responses, if my schedule allows I’ll swing into the next meeting!
Aug 18 2022 3:24PM
WoFlowzThanks for the response Max. Loved your dirt diaries video. Part of my response is being a cheap teenager but also because me and my friends already talk about filming along with other NSer’s outside of here on FT, over text etc. I can understand why you may be charging for this now, especially if it helps keep people engaged, giving it a bigger platform with that. I can also understand that not everyone has a group of people to converse about things they’re passionate about. Will do my best to make it too the next meeting just too see what it’s about!
Stoked! Haha glad you liked the dirt diaries video. Seriously though thank you for the feedback, I'm adding an FAQ to the bottom of the patreon to discuss the costs/why it may or may not be a good fit for people. Hopefully see you next week!
Aug 18 2022 3:24PM
Aug 18 2022 5:33PM
msauerbreyIf you have doubts come try out next weeks meeting for free! We meet at 5:30 MST on Wednesdays, Here's the link:WRLDS is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.
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Are there many skiers/boarders on there?
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WoFlowzThanks for the response Max. Loved your dirt diaries video. Part of my response is being a cheap teenager but also because me and my friends already talk about filming along with other NSer’s outside of here on FT, over text etc. I can understand why you may be charging for this now, especially if it helps keep people engaged, giving it a bigger platform with that. I can also understand that not everyone has a group of people to converse about things they’re passionate about. Will do my best to make it too the next meeting just too see what it’s about!
Yo dude! Just a reminder that we're meeting later tonight if you want to join. Cheers.