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powpatroldepending on your size to the ski size the nose can be really soft. the mount point is quite far back as well so easier to end up back seated
had a friend ride the pescados this season. he is 210, 6'1, aggressive skier. seemed to be too soft for him to jump on in most situations. deeper pow might have been a bit easier to jump in. but short tail will affect your landings either way
I used to have a pair and I used em only for big mountain as I couldn’t slide rails that long ago, they go insanely hard for big mountain. They’re a big ski (at least mine were for me at the time) and it will take some getting used to at first for sure but they’re fuckin wicked
Mackaroni_spaceI used to have a pair and I used em only for big mountain as I couldn’t slide rails that long ago, they go insanely hard for big mountain. They’re a big ski (at least mine were for me at the time) and it will take some getting used to at first for sure but they’re fuckin wicked
U mind telling me your height and weight and which length u skied?
Dear lord, there is a lot going on in this thread.
The Sakana is a short, light, mid-width ski. You're describing comp-level free ride skiing, in all-time conditions. The Sakana is great for mellow, playful skiing, in mediocre to decent conditions.
It's fun in fresh snow, but not your best bet for "1-2' of fresh" I'd look for a wider, longer ski, with less camber.
Similarly, for "30-40' cliffs" there are much more stable, predictable, damp options on the market. If you are actually going this big on the regular, you do not want to be on a Sakana.
If you are actually skiing that big of terrain, in that much fresh snow, something like the Moment Bibby Pro, Line Blade Optic, Salomon QST Blank, Sego Big Horn 114 or Comp 118, Armada Declivity X, or similar is a much better bet.
cydwhitDear lord, there is a lot going on in this thread.
The Sakana is a short, light, mid-width ski. You're describing comp-level free ride skiing, in all-time conditions. The Sakana is great for mellow, playful skiing, in mediocre to decent conditions.
It's fun in fresh snow, but not your best bet for "1-2' of fresh" I'd look for a wider, longer ski, with less camber.
Similarly, for "30-40' cliffs" there are much more stable, predictable, damp options on the market. If you are actually going this big on the regular, you do not want to be on a Sakana.
If you are actually skiing that big of terrain, in that much fresh snow, something like the Moment Bibby Pro, Line Blade Optic, Salomon QST Blank, Sego Big Horn 114 or Comp 118, Armada Declivity X, or similar is a much better bet.
Ye but it’s more of a situation of as would they work skiing a foot of snow and dropping bigger stuff 40% of the time. Then 60% will be carving and just going fast and having fun. I rode the blade in the 164 length and loved it I just found it too short and not floaty enough. I thought the sakana was more like a wider blade meant for softer snow. Right now I ride edollos 172 and they shred and fell good off 25-30 foot cliffs, so I thought a 181 sakana would work. Keep in mind that I am 5 10 and 145 pounds. Would you still be against the sakana for me in this situation?
Gyro_NightsYe but it’s more of a situation of as would they work skiing a foot of snow and dropping bigger stuff 40% of the time. Then 60% will be carving and just going fast and having fun. I rode the blade in the 164 length and loved it I just found it too short and not floaty enough. I thought the sakana was more like a wider blade meant for softer snow. Right now I ride edollos 172 and they shred and fell good off 25-30 foot cliffs, so I thought a 181 sakana would work. Keep in mind that I am 5 10 and 145 pounds. Would you still be against the sakana for me in this situation?
Gyro_NightsYe but it’s more of a situation of as would they work skiing a foot of snow and dropping bigger stuff 40% of the time. Then 60% will be carving and just going fast and having fun. I rode the blade in the 164 length and loved it I just found it too short and not floaty enough. I thought the sakana was more like a wider blade meant for softer snow. Right now I ride edollos 172 and they shred and fell good off 25-30 foot cliffs, so I thought a 181 sakana would work. Keep in mind that I am 5 10 and 145 pounds. Would you still be against the sakana for me in this situation?
Yeah. What Sam said. If you are just jibbing all over the hill, goofing off and having fun, the Sakana is a great ski for that. But if 40% of your skiing is as gnarly as you say it is, there are many more capable skis that are still fun when you're not skiing off cliffs with a tape measure.
cydwhitYeah. What Sam said. If you are just jibbing all over the hill, goofing off and having fun, the Sakana is a great ski for that. But if 40% of your skiing is as gnarly as you say it is, there are many more capable skis that are still fun when you're not skiing off cliffs with a tape measure.
Nah no measuring tape. You just use the fall time. I guess I need to keep looking for different ski then.
Gyro_NightsYe but it’s more of a situation of as would they work skiing a foot of snow and dropping bigger stuff 40% of the time. Then 60% will be carving and just going fast and having fun. I rode the blade in the 164 length and loved it I just found it too short and not floaty enough. I thought the sakana was more like a wider blade meant for softer snow. Right now I ride edollos 172 and they shred and fell good off 25-30 foot cliffs, so I thought a 181 sakana would work. Keep in mind that I am 5 10 and 145 pounds. Would you still be against the sakana for me in this situation?
About 25-30 feet idk. Ye I know it not 30-40 but 1. I’ve only been skiing for 2 years 2. I only started skiing non groomed runs back in January 2022 3. Landing was flat 4. I progress every time I get to go skiing and will prob be bucking 40 in no time. Then I will probably be spending a couple weekends at kicking horse and I’m hoping for fresh snow. I’m tryna think about how I am going to ski next year and the year after. Ik I’m getting downvoted to hell tho for saying I need something for more than I am doing rn
Nah. You're getting downvoted for wording all your questions in a way that comes across as super braggy. Not saying you're trying to, just saying, everyone I've ever met who talks about how they hit "20-30 foot cliffs" or whatever has been a mega douche. What you're looking for is a ski that "can handle deep snow and bigger impacts" or a ski that "is good for harder free ride type skiing" or "I'm looking for a ski that hill hold up and help me as I step up to bigger terrain and deeper snow" or a host of other ways of saying "I want a ski that's good for jumping off of natural shit"
Which, there are a ton of skis out there that fit that bill. I mentioned several of them above. But again, the Sakana is just. not. that. ski. Line makes like 6 other skis that are all better for what you're talking about than the Sakana.
Gyro_NightsAbout 25-30 feet idk. Ye I know it not 30-40 but 1. I’ve only been skiing for 2 years 2. I only started skiing non groomed runs back in January 2022 3. Landing was flat 4. I progress every time I get to go skiing and will prob be bucking 40 in no time. Then I will probably be spending a couple weekends at kicking horse and I’m hoping for fresh snow. I’m tryna think about how I am going to ski next year and the year after. Ik I’m getting downvoted to hell tho for saying I need something for more than I am doing rn
Nice job putting the money where your mouth is. Clean hit dude. You got some shit for bragging about hitting cliffs, but you got the vid to back it up. There are a lotta kids on here who brag but lack the proof.
I second what Cy and Sam and some others are suggesting. Go with a stiffer freeride ski. You'll get a lot more support on landings. The Sakana looks cool, but it won't help you ski the way you want to ski. Line's new Blade Optic might be a really good option for you if you're settled on Line.
cydwhitNah. You're getting downvoted for wording all your questions in a way that comes across as super braggy. Not saying you're trying to, just saying, everyone I've ever met who talks about how they hit "20-30 foot cliffs" or whatever has been a mega douche. What you're looking for is a ski that "can handle deep snow and bigger impacts" or a ski that "is good for harder free ride type skiing" or "I'm looking for a ski that hill hold up and help me as I step up to bigger terrain and deeper snow" or a host of other ways of saying "I want a ski that's good for jumping off of natural shit"
Which, there are a ton of skis out there that fit that bill. I mentioned several of them above. But again, the Sakana is just. not. that. ski. Line makes like 6 other skis that are all better for what you're talking about than the Sakana.
Gyro_NightsYe but it’s more of a situation of as would they work skiing a foot of snow and dropping bigger stuff 40% of the time. Then 60% will be carving and just going fast and having fun. I rode the blade in the 164 length and loved it I just found it too short and not floaty enough. I thought the sakana was more like a wider blade meant for softer snow. Right now I ride edollos 172 and they shred and fell good off 25-30 foot cliffs, so I thought a 181 sakana would work. Keep in mind that I am 5 10 and 145 pounds. Would you still be against the sakana for me in this situation?
I would recommend taking a look at the new Blade Optic 104 for next season. Having skied it, I think it would work well for what you are describing. The Blade Optic is not to be confused with the Blade, which is what I'm guessing you tried out last year.