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Hello all,
I am an 18 year old from Michigan trying to chase a dream. I would like to go to Montana state university, but the out of state tuition is driving me away($27,000 vs $7,000 for in state). I have alredy been acepted for fall of 22' and am now in crunch time to decide if i want move and establish residency. I am here to ask if anyone has established residency in Montana before and wondering how much of a pain in the ass it was.
It’s a huge pain in the ass and it’s only getting harder. You’re better off to defer for a yet and so the instants grind then start school and take part time classes since they’re cracking down on in state. Starting small and a few classes it is a waste of time and money. Take a year to work in state then apply for In state. Even then you may be rejected tho
This is my contribution OP:
1. Enroll in-state at your local community college with your current address and register for all-online freshmen classes.
Better yet, search around to find a community college in your state that offers all your Freshmen classes in a self-paced online format. That way, you won't accidentally fail out while you're trying to navigate the world during your first year out on your own.
Get smart on Exam for Credit options like CLEP and DSST. They're so easy, you can probably take a bunch of them cold right now with just what you learned in High School.
Get your AP and Exam for Credit credits transcribed at the community college and work with your advisor on a "start here and transfer to a 4 year" plan. If you're clever about it, you can breeze straight through an Associates.
2. Move to Montana and work part-time for a year while you do your Self-Paced Online freshmen classes. Establish residency.
3. Transfer into MSU and begin taking your specialized classes.
Not 100% sure on MSU and how theyre "cracking down", but in general,
You cannot claim in-state at two schools in separate states at the same time.
You cannot receive federal financial aid from any 2 schools at the same time.
I think that this will also be the best route for maximizing the money you get from your Pell Grant.
**This post was edited on Mar 24th 2022 at 3:48:02pm
One thing I wanted to add:
Take the time to meet with your advisor at the community college. Bring them the curriculum of the exact program you want to do at MSU.
Be straight up with them that you are looking for "cost-appropriate, flexible, remote-school" options because you are going to be living in Montana, continuing your athletic pursuits and working part time to establish residency. School, sports, and work. You got this OP!
Your advisor will know what's up. They'll line you right out with a "remote-school" freshmen and sophomore curriculum strategy.
Just saying, if you have the means...
You can try to make an agreement with your parents to pay your rent for that 1 year on the contingency that you will pass a certain number of credits and get reaccepted to MSU.
It would likely be a worthwhile investment for them so they don't stuck with a portion of the $27,000 tuition either.
larilinesignYou think? Any questions I've ever had about money with an advisor has always been punted to "That's between you and financial aid"
My role at MSU included advising, there’s a very hard credit rule in MT and if OP ends up at Gallatin College they absolutely need to express that residency is the goal to endure they’re set up on the right track.
safarisamMy role at MSU included advising, there’s a very hard credit rule in MT and if OP ends up at Gallatin College they absolutely need to express that residency is the goal to endure they’re set up on the right track.
Well in that case OP, you gotta defer to MSU's MT credit rule cuz that's the big fish to fry.
However, even if you paid out of state tuition at the Community College, it's probably hella cheap in comparison to MSU. Especially because Self-Paced Online format classes are oftentimes fixed-cost anyways.
If youre gonna pay out of state tuition to a community college, might as well give it to a Montana community college. Probably would help your in state tuition case.
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Although, I still think you should definitely not take a year off school.
Look at flexible options at a community college to stay on track with your 4-year graduation goals.
safarisamMy role at MSU included advising, there’s a very hard credit rule in MT and if OP ends up at Gallatin College they absolutely need to express that residency is the goal to endure they’re set up on the right track.
Oh God @safarisam you weren't kidding. I looked it up, holy smokes there's some serious in-state requirements for MSU.
Yeah OP you cannot claim in-state at a college in another state for 12 months.
So you can find the community college with the cheapest out of state tuition and online classes.
larilinesignOh God @safarisam[/tag] you weren't kidding. I looked it up, holy smokes there's some serious in-state requirements for MSU.Yeah OP you cannot claim in-state at a college in another state for 12 months.
So you can find the community college with the cheapest out of state tuition and online classes.
Yeah, so many students were moving for school but trying for instate off the bat that they cracked the fuck down. It’s a bummer but they want that out of state $$$
safarisamYeah, so many students were moving for school but trying for instate off the bat that they cracked the fuck down. It’s a bummer but they want that out of state $$$
Eh I don't blame em. If you wanna move to the damn mountains, you better contribute to the damn community.
Although I do feel the "no in-state or welfare in a different state for 12 months" provision is way too harsh and disproportionately harmful towards poor students.
Browland3Hello all,I am an 18 year old from Michigan trying to chase a dream. I would like to go to Montana state university, but the out of state tuition is driving me away($27,000 vs $7,000 for in state). I have alredy been acepted for fall of 22' and am now in crunch time to decide if i want move and establish residency. I am here to ask if anyone has established residency in Montana before and wondering how much of a pain in the ass it was.
Remember-That's just for tuition and not including housing and other stuff. I'd imagine if you're in the dorms it's going to be closer to 40k for out of state and 20k if you are a resident
Thanks for all the suggestions for help. To clarify I am currently going to CC in MI and getting gen ed classes out of the way. I am aware there are tons of requirements to get in state tuition. My current plan would be to move out there in May to work a ton and begin to work on my residency. Then when school starts in the fall i can do half time which is 6 credits and still be able to work on residency. There are a crap load of hoops they make you jump through because rich people that had a second home in Montana were bassically finnessing the system for in state tuition.
Check this out: http://catalog.montana.edu/code-conduct-policies-regulations-reports/residency-requirements-for-fee-purposes/
They bassically make it almost impossible but i think i can do it.
Was just wondering if anybody on here had ever done it before or knew anyone that did it.
**This post was edited on Mar 24th 2022 at 5:48:32pm
Browland3Thanks for all the suggestions for help. To clarify I am currently going to CC in MI and getting gen ed classes out of the way. I am aware there are tons of requirements to get in state tuition. My current plan would be to move out there in May to work a ton and begin to work on my residency. Then when school starts in the fall i can do half time which is 6 credits and still be able to work on residency. There are a crap load of hoops they make you jump through because rich people that had a second home in Montana were bassically finnessing the system for in state tuition.Check this out: http://catalog.montana.edu/code-conduct-policies-regulations-reports/residency-requirements-for-fee-purposes/
They bassically make it almost impossible but i think i can do it.
Was just wondering if anybody on here had ever done it before or knew anyone that did it.
**This post was edited on Mar 24th 2022 at 5:48:32pm
I tried in undergrad and was denied. I got in-state during grad school after my department threw an absolute fit about it.
my friend group in undergrad about 50/50 with success, starting work first is a good start. Get a MT license the day you move, auto within a week, make it so it seems you’re there for work but are school curious. Good luck— you may not get it.
Okay, so.
High quality, fully online degree programs exist now, and some of them have no out of state tuition for online programs.
Kansas State University, Iowa University, and Wichita State come to mind. All good schools.
If you did your 12 month period studying online at KSU and paying the standard online rate, you would not risk your eligibility for in-state residency in Montana.
It looks like there's even an online-only undergraduate out of state fee schedule for MSU.
You can do online-only out of state for your freshman year for about the same price of in-person in state.
But still go into the university and use the facilities and student organizations so your in person experience is not diminished.
**This post was edited on Mar 24th 2022 at 7:18:45pm
Okay OP that's my final verdict and then I'll leave you alone lol.
Accept to offer to MSU and enroll as a full time student in any of their online undergraduate programs.
Move to Montana and immediately get an on-campus student job. Spend Freshman year working at the school and doing your online classes. Participate in student life as if you were an in-person student. Fulfill the other in-state residency requirements.
After Freshman year, submit the form to change your residency status. There's no denying you were present at the school if you've been working there and did a tax return.
Once your residency status is changed, switch your major to your desired majored.
Boom. Goodnight.
larilinesignOkay OP that's my final verdict and then I'll leave you alone lol.Accept to offer to MSU and enroll as a full time student in any of their online undergraduate programs.
Move to Montana and immediately get an on-campus student job. Spend Freshman year working at the school and doing your online classes. Participate in student life as if you were an in-person student. Fulfill the other in-state residency requirements.
After Freshman year, submit the form to change your residency status. There's no denying you were present at the school if you've been working there and did a tax return.
Once your residency status is changed, switch your major to your desired majored.
Boom. Goodnight.
DO NOT DO THIS!!!!!