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With how COVID is hitting all the resorts right now I doubt a lot of them even have spare staff to send as scabs, unless vail is just gonna shaft their NH resorts even more then normal and just take them anyways lol
Wait, they can cover cross country flights and $600 per diem but they cannot afford a $17 an hour living wage?
That makes as much sense as Republicans saying they don't have money for single payer healthcare but they have the money to fund two illegal wars for over a decade and $3 trillion to sink into the stock market.
Maybe if they didnt unionize , Vail would cave and make concessions.Obviously want the patrollers to be paid enough to do their thing, but Unions are a blight to our society.
@LANTASKIMaybe if they didnt unionize , Vail would cave and make concessions.Obviously want the patrollers to be paid enough to do their thing, but Unions are a blight to our society.
What's so bad about unions? I get that there are some that are fear mongers/useless or just generally bad...but I still feel like it's good to have some sort of push back against the bloated, ineffective, and often shitty middle/upper management.
You can say that the market decides...but in the case of huge megacorps that doesn't necessarily seem to be the case when those businesses more or less become the market.
I also have a hard time looking at people trying to make a living wage for relatively skilled work vs corporations making millions in profit with shitty business practices and choosing to back the megacorp in that scenario. No matter how shitty unions are.
The fact that Vail thinks they can hire temporary patrollers to run the mountain during a strike is criminally neglegent at best, lethal at worst. Notwithstanding the more than 100 unique slide paths that require years of experience to know how to mitigate, this completely undermines the primary function of ski patrol: to be a rapid emergency response team. This requires knowing every square inch of the mountain in order to respond as quickly as possible. Imagine Joe Strikebreaker from New Hampshire is dispatched to an unknown injury on Powder Keg, but he takes a wrong turn not knowing the terrain. By the time he arrives on scene 30 minutes later, the patient has bled out from a laceration from a ski edge. The fact that Vail Resorts, king of "Do not raise bar until chair enters top station!" would subject themselves to this kind of liability in order to avoid paying $2/he is astonishing.
LonelyWhat's so bad about unions? I get that there are some that are fear mongers/useless or just generally bad...but I still feel like it's good to have some sort of push back against the bloated, ineffective, and often shitty middle/upper management.
You can say that the market decides...but in the case of huge megacorps that doesn't necessarily seem to be the case when those businesses more or less become the market.
I also have a hard time looking at people trying to make a living wage for relatively skilled work vs corporations making millions in profit with shitty business practices and choosing to back the megacorp in that scenario. No matter how shitty unions are.
RIP_leos_shackThe fact that Vail thinks they can hire temporary patrollers to run the mountain during a strike is criminally neglegent at best, lethal at worst. Notwithstanding the more than 100 unique slide paths that require years of experience to know how to mitigate, this completely undermines the primary function of ski patrol: to be a rapid emergency response team. This requires knowing every square inch of the mountain in order to respond as quickly as possible. Imagine Joe Strikebreaker from New Hampshire is dispatched to an unknown injury on Powder Keg, but he takes a wrong turn not knowing the terrain. By the time he arrives on scene 30 minutes later, the patient has bled out from a laceration from a ski edge. The fact that Vail Resorts, king of "Do not raise bar until chair enters top station!" would subject themselves to this kind of liability in order to avoid paying $2/he is astonishing.
djdiggidydaveA buddy working patrol their said Vail cut the number of days you can be out with covid so there a number of positive patrollers out there.
Let that sink in
Well i mean the CDC did that to America first and now companies are aligning with that. Fauci said it was to get people back to work earlier.
partyandBSWell i mean the CDC did that to America first and now companies are aligning with that. Fauci said it was to get people back to work earlier.
BrightFrogunion did a bad job over the past years. Now they paying for it. Also that email was created by some kid in CO; it’s getting way too much press.
BrightFrogunion did a bad job over the past years. Now they paying for it. Also that email was created by some kid in CO; it’s getting way too much press.
@LANTASKIMaybe if they didnt unionize , Vail would cave and make concessions.Obviously want the patrollers to be paid enough to do their thing, but Unions are a blight to our society.
Unions are the reason there are weekends, holidays, minimum wage and safe workplace policies.
As a union worker myself, nobody should do this. Do not be a scab. The purpose of unionizing is to organize labor and to raise the value of the given trade or industry across the board. Rising tide lifts all boats. These patrollers need support!!
tri_photoAs a union worker myself, nobody should do this. Do not be a scab. The purpose of unionizing is to organize labor and to raise the value of the given trade or industry across the board. Rising tide lifts all boats. These patrollers need support!!
The email was confirmed to be unauthorized so $600 a day plus expenses isnt an actual option.
fun fact, if the patrol did not unionize, they would be at the Vail Resorts minimum wage of $15 or likely more. I dont know much about unions but it seems like being a union in this situation is not paying off for these patrolers.
skiermanWait, they can cover cross country flights and $600 per diem but they cannot afford a $17 an hour living wage?
That makes as much sense as Republicans saying they don't have money for single payer healthcare but they have the money to fund two illegal wars for over a decade and $3 trillion to sink into the stock market.
you probably huffed and slammed your laptop shut when news broke that Bin Laden got smoked by the Seals
partyandBSThe email was confirmed to be unauthorized so $600 a day plus expenses isnt an actual option.
fun fact, if the patrol did not unionize, they would be at the Vail Resorts minimum wage of $15 or likely more. I dont know much about unions but it seems like being a union in this situation is not paying off for these patrolers.
I don’t think you understand these patrollers aren’t gonna settle for the vail minimum for a skilled labor job. Vail embarrassingly negotiated them up to 15 / hour after literally 45+ negotiations and the patrollers denied it. A union is necessary for that livable wage and they’re trying to get what they deserve
grantlewis_dntmyou probably huffed and slammed your laptop shut when news broke that Bin Laden got smoked by the Seals
As we all know liberals love far-right religious extremists who believe women have no rights and violence is the only answer because democracy doesn't work....
RIP_leos_shackThe fact that Vail thinks they can hire temporary patrollers to run the mountain during a strike is criminally neglegent at best, lethal at worst. Notwithstanding the more than 100 unique slide paths that require years of experience to know how to mitigate, this completely undermines the primary function of ski patrol: to be a rapid emergency response team. This requires knowing every square inch of the mountain in order to respond as quickly as possible. Imagine Joe Strikebreaker from New Hampshire is dispatched to an unknown injury on Powder Keg, but he takes a wrong turn not knowing the terrain. By the time he arrives on scene 30 minutes later, the patient has bled out from a laceration from a ski edge. The fact that Vail Resorts, king of "Do not raise bar until chair enters top station!" would subject themselves to this kind of liability in order to avoid paying $2/he is astonishing.