Even with your hesitation with California I will warn you further. Do not move there. Don't get me wrong, it's a pretty decent place to visit and has fantastic food, but the rest of it fucking sucks. Everything is way too expensive and most people are absolute douche bags. I really have no constructive advice for you besides that but I spent a week in the salt lake area and enjoyed it a lot

Sounds like you could afford to live pretty much anywhere. Do you want to be near the ocean? How far are from the mountains are you thinking? You could pick pretty much any city west of the Rockies and be within 2 hours of some sort of skiing. Your options are more limited if you want to be near a beach.

Where are your favorite places you've been? My gf and I take little trips to places we consider moving to and it helps us decide if it would be a good fit or not.

Even though California sounds shitty, the fact that you can drive from the beach to the Sierras in 4 hours is special. No other state has that much environmental diversity. Hospitals pay competitively and QOL can be high if you can afford to live there. I grew up near Sacramento and although there wasn't much in the immediate vicinity, I so much outdoor recreation in a 2-hour radius. When I'm an old fart, my dream is to own a summer house in SLO and a winter house in Tahoe. Step 1 of that dream is winning the lottery lol

I live in Reno now and I appreciate the proximity to California and Lake Tahoe without having to deal with a lot of the baggage that comes with living in CA. The pay isn't great though. I could make 50% more in Sac or the Bay Area. And the hospitals in Reno are struggling with understaffing, especially Renown. Schools are terrible too if you have a family.

Oregon is probably where I'm moving next. The Cascades are gorgeous and living in the desert makes me miss rain. Portland has some excellent hospitals, but the politics in that town are even more polarizing than California. The mid-sized cities are really nice though.

I'm sure there are lots of people on here who can speak to Washington, Utah, Idaho, Montana, etc.

I feel like you're a northwest washington kind of guy. I love Anecortes but bellingham is sweet if you can swing it. Thats gotta be one of the most geological diverse areas in the lower 48.

Eastern Washington/North Idaho is pretty nice and the housing market is starting to slow down. North Idaho has the most beautiful lakes in the country with some good skiing at Silver Mountain, 49deg North and Schweitzer. Spokane is a bigger city and a lot of the city is centered around the hospital. Its a short drive to some incredibly beautiful places in Canada too and Seattle is not too far for a change of pace.

Sounds like Oregon, or Washington would suit your needs. Or Andorra.

lol at Ohio. Oregon kicked your butt in football and we actually have an ocean. I'd go to California to ski though. I mean that is totally my vacation plan. If you have the dough buy a place on the ocean and one at Mammoth

Vermont homie. Maine is pretty sick too. A little less of the big mountain scene but sounds like you have pretty good job that allows you to vacation anywhere basically. People and ski culture here are super nice, if you find the right crew, but that’s basically anywhere you go.

I live in Boise, ID rn and it’s been really great. It’s a pretty warm town in the summer and stays fairly moderate in the winter. The resort (bogus basin) gets decent snow but isn’t anything special. However within 3 hours you have brundage and tamarack which are both great options. Also SLC is 5 hours away and Jackson is 6 so you’re close to a lot of great spots

also I work at St. Lukes which is one of the major hospitals in the area and its been super awesome for me. I have only been there about 5 months now but overall have no complaints.

Wife and I were in a similar situation, we thought about North Carolina for a bit, not the best skiing, but it exists and the state has beaches. But we just ended up staying in PA which I'm good with. Live 15 minutes from local ski hill, 3 hours to shitty beaches, 6 hours to decent beaches, 3 hours to good hiking/camping, 6-8 hours to good northeast mountains, 1 hour from airport to great skiing, plenty of friends/family to watch pets when we go on vacation.

Not sure how set on mountain mountains you are are...but I'm sure you're familiar with how big the medical industry is in Boston and I'm sure you could easily get a job and the wife would be happy here.

If you live north of the city you can get up to the Whites in ~1.5 hours and to the beach in like 20/30 mins. There are smaller mountains even closer for quick laps or night riding. Not a "warm weather climate" but summers are certainly hot and I really like the distinction between seasons, allows for a good mix of activities, whatever you're into. Obvi the skiing doesn't touch west coast stuff, but I love living here and there are toonnns of midwestern transplants (and really from all over)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boulder,_Colorado

pretty dang temperate and pretty epic mountains.

ericformanhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boulder,_Colorado

pretty dang temperate and pretty epic mountains.

Yeah I'm well aware that Colorado weather in the cities and suburbs of most places is more mellow than most Ohio cities but she's just biased against the state and there's no changing that. I've tried lol.

Darn. Boise ain’t a bad option then

HypeBeastYeah I'm well aware that Colorado weather in the cities and suburbs of most places is more mellow than most Ohio cities but she's just biased against the state and there's no changing that. I've tried lol.

“Just not Colorado”

we thank her lol. Rent and housing is expensive enough. I dont wanna have to compete with more ohians.

plus the weather is god awful. 300 days of sunshine, clean crisp air, champagne powder?! Fuckin worst man.

i lived in vermont and thats a gem. No one talks shit about vermont skiing more than vermonters. 57 days of sunshine a year. Uneducated people. Tons of pills to pop. And a dying economy. Can’t beat it!!

HypeBeastDisclaimer: please don't hate. I'm not here to raise housing prices or spend more than you would. I buy used cars and my house costs 1/4 of what I could afford. This is a serious thread.

Tldr: I need to move somewhere near mountains that my wife won't hate her life at. Ohio, outside of NE Ohio, is literal cancer and even NE Ohio is only tolerable.

Long story: I've been wrestling with this for a long time now. If you add HS, then I'm looking at 13 years of wanting to leave. I never wanted to stay in Ohio. I didn't even want to go to college here but did because of parental pressure and because I got accepted into my degree program straight from HS. The only reason I'm still in Ohio is because of my job. I love it and wish I could move the hospital with me. Another main reason was my pension wasn't fully vested and I'd lose money if I left early. Now that my pension is vested, I'm free to leave. I just got board certified in my specialty which increases my worth. I shouldn't have a problem getting a job anywhere because of that. Additionally my hospital underpays across the board; a lot of things have happened lately which makes me realize they don't value us as much as I thought they did and that's been quite a shock to the already low morale we had going on. This goes to the top, beyond my manager and director who are both fabulous. So basically my sole reason for being here has also been kinda ruined.

Traveling to do my passions which are mainly outdoors things is very expensive. I work to fund my endeavors. I spend a lot traveling to places I don't necessarily need to if I lived closer.

It's all getting kind of depressing and to the point where I need to make a change in the next year or two. Our original plan was to move to Charleston, SC which I LOVE but it still would put me far from the rest of things I value more. I kinda flipped out on my wife the other week and told her I need to leave Ohio and I need mountains. Her response was constructive lol "just not Colorado"- that's fine cuz it's a big country. She says she's about warm climates but she's also from Cleveland and puts the fans on in the winter time so I'd beg to differ if she could ever tolerate southern heat.

Anyway do any of you have ideas for wtf I should do? Is there anywhere not super rural with somewhat temperate climates to not scare off those cold weather haters but within 60-90 (or even 120) minutes of skiable mountains? I'm at the point where I've realized that my sanity matters most, and I'm moving, even if that means I move alone.

I sat on this conclusion for a while so this isn't a rash decision. Only issue is I have to know where well in advance so I can transfer my license and take a law exam. While I shudder at the prospect of California, I am open to all suggestions.

My dude, that’s rough. I think there are a lot of places though in this country that you will be happier but not have all those things you listed. Let me give you a run down of where I live. I live in Saint Louis MO. Our cost of living is pretty freaking low and the city itself is really easy to get around. On the weekends I will usually pack my truck and leave work ona Friday and drive 1.5 hours down to the mark Twain national forest and spend the weekend camping, fly fishing, hiking or kayaking. In the winter we have a small mountain where I go skiing most days after work. Saint Louis is also good to score relatively cheap fares to fly to about any ski destination. Bc Saint Louis is cheap I take 1 week long ski trip out west each winter and then 2-3 weekend trips. Also if you don’t want to fly you can drive to Breck in just over 12 hours which isn’t terrible.

I’m not trying to sell you on living here, I’m just encouraging you to look at the bigger picture. Growing up I was convinced that I was going to move out west and live in the mountains and all that but I ended up doing something different. Maybe sometime in the future I will live in the mountains but until then I’m happy where I’m at.

my advice to you is to find that middle ground it may not be where you expect. Also make sure you understand your cost of living wherever you go. (btw Saint Louis has 2 medical schools and at least 10 hospitals that I know of so there is probably work for you here)

I normally wouldn’t suggest it to randoms but the southwest has basically everything you’re looking for. You don’t have to live in Colorado but what about the bordering states like New Mexico or northern Arizona? Northern NM has amazing skiing and you can always drive a few hours and ski the San Juan’s in Colorado.

Another thing I never knew until I moved out here is how beautiful the southwest scenery is and the sunsets just can’t be beat. Hands down the best non-ocean sunsets in the whole country. Where I live, I can ski for 6 hours, catch the Sedona sunset with my fiancé on the way home and still live somewhere with a ton of job opportunities. I think we work in a little bit of a different sub section of the medical field but it employs me and my soon to be wife.

If you want any more details PM so I’m not just blasting local spots all over the Internet lmao

So, if you’re looking at Montana, skip Bozeman. Mostly because it’s crazy cold in the winter. We’re talking -40.

billings is close enough to red lodge and is warmer, that Flathead valley is warmer too with Whitefish Resort close by. As with most places, it’s damn near impossible to find housing. If you were looking this far north though that’s what I’d recommend. Also check out the ID panhandle, place is weird as fuck but I also like it. Spokane isn’t a bad choice either.

Reno is the best city out West and there is fuckloads to do it doesn't feel small.

I'd stay out of California unless homeless people and government forced injections are your kind of thing. The West in general isn't great for either of those things though. Never thought I would live to see the day that I'd rather go to Florida than somewhere like Palm Springs but that is the world we are currently living in.

I live out west, no state government forced me to do anything about vaccinations (but I’m fully vaxxed on my own) and homeless folks exist but not in droves like California. So, basically you’re saying don’t move to California lol

For what it’s worth, I’m not one of those people who wants panhandlers arrested (it’s illegal here) or even has a problem with vagrancy. Shit happens and life is tough. California just has it all fucked up.

PeppermillRenoReno is the best city out West and there is fuckloads to do it doesn't feel small.

I'd stay out of California unless homeless people and government forced injections are your kind of thing. The West in general isn't great for either of those things though. Never thought I would live to see the day that I'd rather go to Florida than somewhere like Palm Springs but that is the world we are currently living in.

DesertStixI live out west, no state government forced me to do anything about vaccinations (but I’m fully vaxxed on my own) and homeless folks exist but not in droves like California. So, basically you’re saying don’t move to California lol

For what it’s worth, I’m not one of those people who wants panhandlers arrested (it’s illegal here) or even has a problem with vagrancy. Shit happens and life is tough. California just has it all fucked up.

I hear ya. I mean no one in the Newschoolers demographic made a good decision for their own health with that thing there is a reason scandanavia has banned it for under 30s or Taiwan. But getting fired or kicked out of college isn't really a great life move either. But that's not really the point 5 year old children in CA are no longer going to be allowed to attend school unless they get a forced injection that's not a choice. In CA you will be considered unvaxxed unless you have a booster within 6 months. If you move there you have to take that into consideration if you are not willing to get one every 6 months I would go somewhere else. If you live in CA and like your job and know your job will make you take it and you are cool with it I wouldn't worry about it if the first ones were no big.

I actually overheard 2 starbucks managers talking about this earlier today they were on the other side of the shop so this isn't 100% with their lap tops out and one guy had his bib on and was a server but they were pretty much saying that corporate told them that the initial shots weren't going to be enough to be 'fully vaxxed' you had to have a recent shot.

Homeless people just suck. I'm a big somewhat intimidating looking dude as well I don't really know how people who aren't handle these people aggressively accosting them when out in public? Like how do small hot chicks by themselves handle those idiots?

Oh nah I 100% made the right choice for my own health and the immune compromised clients I work with. I honestly don’t have as much of an issue with their vaccine policies as I do with how they like knowingly avoid the homeless issue.

They’re essentially telling people to get vaccinated or leave the state which I have no problem with. And if enough people did, you would see a massive exodus yet here we are with an overpopulation issue and housing crisis. Back to OP’s original question, unless you have the financial resources to overpay for cost of living and still afford to ski etc. on the weekends with a lot of travel, I would highly advise against moving to California right now.

And I know you’re an older dude but come on. All homeless people don’t suck. I’m sure you’ve had some bad experiences but that kind of attitude is what leaves them stranded with no help. So many of those people were working class and just one missing paycheck away from being evicted or suffering from mental illness, etc. life is fucking hard man

PeppermillRenoI hear ya. I mean no one in the Newschoolers demographic made a good decision for their own health with that thing there is a reason scandanavia has banned it for under 30s or Taiwan. But getting fired or kicked out of college isn't really a great life move either. But that's not really the point 5 year old children in CA are no longer going to be allowed to attend school unless they get a forced injection that's not a choice. In CA you will be considered unvaxxed unless you have a booster within 6 months. If you move there you have to take that into consideration if you are not willing to get one every 6 months I would go somewhere else. If you live in CA and like your job and know your job will make you take it and you are cool with it I wouldn't worry about it if the first ones were no big.

I actually overheard 2 starbucks managers talking about this earlier today they were on the other side of the shop so this isn't 100% with their lap tops out and one guy had his bib on and was a server but they were pretty much saying that corporate told them that the initial shots weren't going to be enough to be 'fully vaxxed' you had to have a recent shot.

Homeless people just suck. I'm a big somewhat intimidating looking dude as well I don't really know how people who aren't handle these people aggressively accosting them when out in public? Like how do small hot chicks by themselves handle those idiots?

DesertStixOh nah I 100% made the right choice for my own health and the immune compromised clients I work with. I honestly don’t have as much of an issue with their vaccine policies as I do with how they like knowingly avoid the homeless issue.

They’re essentially telling people to get vaccinated or leave the state which I have no problem with. And if enough people did, you would see a massive exodus yet here we are with an overpopulation issue and housing crisis. Back to OP’s original question, unless you have the financial resources to overpay for cost of living and still afford to ski etc. on the weekends with a lot of travel, I would highly advise against moving to California right now.

And I know you’re an older dude but come on. All homeless people don’t suck. I’m sure you’ve had some bad experiences but that kind of attitude is what leaves them stranded with no help. So many of those people were working class and just one missing paycheck away from being evicted or suffering from mental illness, etc. life is fucking hard man

I'm glad you are content with your choice as not everyone is. I think a persons current vax card in NYC will remain valid even if they don't get the boosters. In CA I think they nullify them if you don't. Just my call.

Living around tent cities sucks. I was wrong to say that all homeless people suck. Everyone is different but some don't want help. That said yes homelessness sucks as do their encampments and all the other shit. I can't really think of anything worse to live around its like a neighbor that has a dog they leave outside all day and night that barks 24/7. It just sucks.

Yeah that’s totally true about a tent city. It sucks for everyone. The people stuck “living” there and the surrounding property owners who suffer from lower property values, drugs, and crime etc they probably weren’t dealing with before. And for sure there are people who just don’t want any help but I’m glad you see it’s unfair to generalize. I wish there was a clear and concise answer on how to make progress with our homeless situation but just driving through Southern California is a reminder of how complicated it really is

PeppermillRenoI'm glad you are content with your choice as not everyone is. I think a persons current vax card in NYC will remain valid even if they don't get the boosters. In CA I think they nullify them if you don't. Just my call.

Living around tent cities sucks. I was wrong to say that all homeless people suck. Everyone is different but some don't want help. That said yes homelessness sucks as do their encampments and all the other shit. I can't really think of anything worse to live around its like a neighbor that has a dog they leave outside all day and night that barks 24/7. It just sucks.

DesertStixYeah that’s totally true about a tent city. It sucks for everyone. The people stuck “living” there and the surrounding property owners who suffer from lower property values, drugs, and crime etc they probably weren’t dealing with before. And for sure there are people who just don’t want any help but I’m glad you see it’s unfair to generalize. I wish there was a clear and concise answer on how to make progress with our homeless situation but just driving through Southern California is a reminder of how complicated it really is

Its a haves and the have nots. You don't want to allow zoning changes and new build public housing which to do anything will be more than a few stories high enjoy your tent city. All that money that is pissed down the drain on the worthless fucking military should be spent building housing. And the military is the worlds largest welfare program and they suck they couldn't even beat Britain in a simulated war in the desert. Stupid fat inbred fucks.

We haven't really built public housing in 50 years. The populace has just gotten larger. And furthermore gotten poorer apart from the 1%. We could built 20 story public housing high rises but 'who' is going to allow that in their neighborhood.

AirBNB and short term rentals has been the real catalyst thats fucked things up super fast shrinking the rental pool further.

But again we got a democrat elected so a chance to make some changes like that and all we got for it was vaccine mandates. Great... that helps the average person a ton.

Lets Go Brandon.

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You’re definitely closer to these issues as a California resident. It affects me living right over the border but in the sense that our housing and job markets are fucked because of people leaving California and moving here so it’s more ancillary. I thought you were in Nevada though?

As far as”housing projects”, would you rather live next to a tent city or a newly built high rise which just happens to cater to low income residents but the building itself isn’t an eyesore? I’m taking the low income development in that scenario…

PeppermillRenoIts a haves and the have nots. You don't want to allow zoning changes and new build public housing which to do anything will be more than a few stories high enjoy your tent city. All that money that is pissed down the drain on the worthless fucking military should be spent building housing. And the military is the worlds largest welfare program and they suck they couldn't even beat Britain in a simulated war in the desert. Stupid fat inbred fucks.

We haven't really built public housing in 50 years. The populace has just gotten larger. And furthermore gotten poorer apart from the 1%. We could built 20 story public housing high rises but 'who' is going to allow that in their neighborhood.

AirBNB and short term rentals has been the real catalyst thats fucked things up super fast shrinking the rental pool further.

But again we got a democrat elected so a chance to make some changes like that and all we got for it was vaccine mandates. Great... that helps the average person a ton.

Lets Go Brandon.

**This post was edited on Nov 13th 2021 at 7:45:11pm

DesertStixYou’re definitely closer to these issues as a California resident. It affects me living right over the border but in the sense that our housing and job markets are fucked because of people leaving California and moving here so it’s more ancillary. I thought you were in Nevada though?

As far as”housing projects”, would you rather live next to a tent city or a newly built high rise which just happens to cater to low income residents but the building itself isn’t an eyesore? I’m taking the low income development in that scenario…

No I live in Lynn MA this handle pertains to my old residence in NV.

The high rise would be pretty nice. I have friends with section 8 vouchers and their buildings are fine no one rich is in there but housing is housing. Since it was built so long ago all those developments are around the way and close to a lot of jobs. If you want to 'change' anything that is the solution just build more. I work in construction lots of building is good. This is a better and more important sector than the cuck ass military if the government wants to keep building and alleviate homelessness that is a good thing.

And remember private sector building in a place like San Francisco isn't going to change anything. The costs of the land and costs of development after all the reviews and such are going to put each unit at a sky high price for the developer to make money where it has to be marketed to the middle/upper class. The private sector just can't move the dial.

The government should step in and selfish boomer property owners can suck on a dick if they don't like it.

But we don't get that from our government we get 'give us your rights take our injection and still pay for our joke ass military that everyone know is useless and btw we just gave Afghan terrorists our best equipment.'

So let me get this straight you’re in favor of government intervention in mitigating our housing crisis but when it comes to general public health and safety you want them to be hands off?

PeppermillRenoNo I live in Lynn MA this handle pertains to my old residence in NV.

The high rise would be pretty nice. I have friends with section 8 vouchers and their buildings are fine no one rich is in there but housing is housing. Since it was built so long ago all those developments are around the way and close to a lot of jobs. If you want to 'change' anything that is the solution just build more. I work in construction lots of building is good. This is a better and more important sector than the cuck ass military if the government wants to keep building and alleviate homelessness that is a good thing.

And remember private sector building in a place like San Francisco isn't going to change anything. The costs of the land and costs of development after all the reviews and such are going to put each unit at a sky high price for the developer to make money where it has to be marketed to the middle/upper class. The private sector just can't move the dial.

The government should step in and selfish boomer property owners can suck on a dick if they don't like it.

But we don't get that from our government we get 'give us your rights take our injection and still pay for our joke ass military that everyone know is useless and btw we just gave Afghan terrorists our best equipment.'

DesertStixSo let me get this straight you’re in favor of government intervention in mitigating our housing crisis but when it comes to general public health and safety you want them to be hands off?

Bingo!!!

The government takes 45% of my paycheck bro.

A lot used to go to the military but after Afghanistan I don't get a return. Russia or China would smoke us. My GF is from Taiwan too and owns a flat there. I bet she loses it to communism because of Brandon. China doesn't respect his senile as.

Believe it or not I can make my own health decisions. Dude the vax or don't vax discussion is over its now all about boosters and if you need to get them every 6 months. If you are young and get this injection that fucks you up for 24 hours when corona itself wouldn't is that really in your best interest?

You don't know if I am vax'd or not.

And yes I think the government should step in and alleviate the housing crunch. I see housing as a fundamental human right. Also being in construction sales if we are going to waste money knocking down public multi use 'commercial' buildings and rebuilding them is probably the best use of funds when you think of all the jobs that creates. If you want to waste money that is a good place to do it you just can't go wrong. Just keep building.

Just so you know where I live google Kings Beach Towers 130 Eastern Ave Lynn MA. Its a 10 story housing project that seriously fucks up the views of the bay/ocean from my house/deck.

Was built 60+ years ago. There are no modern public buildings like that anywhere in the Boston area. Yes we need more of them.

PeppermillRenoBingo!!!

The government takes 45% of my paycheck bro.

Damn u must make a lot of money

HypeBeastDamn u must make a lot of money

No. They fuck you in the ass on commission.

Don't trust the government.

'That booster hurt me give me another sir'

Lets Go Brandon

Is all we can agree on

Also everyone on NS is 30 years or under and at no risk from C19.

Why in your right mind would you ignore science and consent to the injections?

The virus isn't that bad its been around for 2 years you know that. Just politics?

PeppermillRenoLets Go Brandon

Is all we can agree on

This slogan is so cringy I can't even. Grow up and just say fuck biden if you really feel that way. No need to sugar coat it.

PeppermillRenoAlso everyone on NS is 30 years or under and at no risk from C19.

Why in your right mind would you ignore science and consent to the injections?

The virus isn't that bad its been around for 2 years you know that. Just politics?

How about we keep covid out of this thread. I don't wanna go down this road with you too.

HypeBeastThis slogan is so cringy I can't even. Grow up and just say fuck biden if you really feel that way. No need to sugar coat it.

How about we keep covid out of this thread. I don't wanna go down this road with you too.

FOr sure bro Brandon has your best interests at heart with the injections.

PeppermillRenoFOr sure bro Brandon has your best interests at heart with the injections.

The Nascar driver?

HypeBeastThe Nascar driver?

You got an injection no questions asked by Joe Brandon? Did you pay for the Myocarditis?

HypeBeastThe Nascar driver?

You got an injection no questions asked by Joe Brandon? Did you pay for the Myocarditis?

PeppermillRenoYou got an injection no questions asked by Joe Brandon? Did you pay for the Myocarditis?

I got an injection from a coworker back in 12/2020, 1/2021, and 9/2021 but to answer your question no I didn't have to pay for myocarditis. It came free with the triangulated microchip. See once you get 3 shots they can triangulate your location via GPS satellites owned by the United States government. The injections are a suspension of nanomites and microchips. They use lipid particles to gain entry into your cells and take over the nucleus. The nanomites are able to take over your brain too so really I have no control over my thoughts or actions 99% of the time. If they knew I was typing this I would be in grave danger of having the self destruct sequence initiated that plays out exactly like covid-19 while the nanomites explode all throughout my body creating a massive immune response and pulmonary edema. Eventually they blow up my heart. So yeah hopefully they don't ever find out I said this TRUTH!

PeppermillRenoYou got an injection no questions asked by Joe Brandon? Did you pay for the Myocarditis?

Actually now that I think about it, Daddy Trump gave me my first two mind control doses.

Just move to Maine and go skiing there. The west is played out.

HypeBeastYeah I'm well aware that Colorado weather in the cities and suburbs of most places is more mellow than most Ohio cities but she's just biased against the state and there's no changing that. I've tried lol.

Listen to yo wife man, you don’t seem like the super denverite millennial so you would hate CO, everybody is so fake outdoorsy and the entire city of boulder acts like some stuck up rich kids because lots of them are super agro about if your a native or not even if you can ski laps around them

Western Washington isn't bad, got the cascades, the sound, the coast and the temperature isn't bad, just a shit ton of rain most of the time but that shouldn't matter since ya have to work so many hours to pay the ridiculous rents etc .

ColoradoDogfarteven if you can ski laps around them

Lol you encounter cocky kids who suck at skiing? That's rich

HypeBeastLol you encounter cocky kids who suck at skiing? That's rich

Nah nah I’m sayin boomer ass native guys are going to hate you even if you can ski laps around them. People in Colorado are very territorial so even if your chill they will hate you and show 0 kindness especially in boulder

@Hypebeast

EdudeVermont homie. Maine is pretty sick too. A little less of the big mountain scene but sounds like you have pretty good job that allows you to vacation anywhere basically. People and ski culture here are super nice, if you find the right crew, but that’s basically anywhere you go.

Yes, VT is the shit!!!

r00kieI feel like you're a northwest washington kind of guy. I love Anecortes but bellingham is sweet if you can swing it. Thats gotta be one of the most geological diverse areas in the lower 48.

Wtf dude don’t tell people to move here what is wrong with you.