The email too.

They even sent it to my wife and she doesn’t even use NS. It’s gotta be them tracking her phone in close proximity to mine. What’s that called again?

**This post was edited on Mar 12th 2021 at 9:24:44am

BradFiAusNzCoCaThe email too.

They even sent it to my wife and she doesn’t even use NS. It’s gotta be them tracking her phone in close proximity to mine. What’s that called again?

**This post was edited on Mar 12th 2021 at 9:24:44am

Blatant invasion of privacy?

Yeah that too lol

gilbertresselBlatant invasion of privacy?

BradFiAusNzCoCaThe email too.

They even sent it to my wife and she doesn’t even use NS. It’s gotta be them tracking her phone in close proximity to mine. What’s that called again?

**This post was edited on Mar 12th 2021 at 9:24:44am

NS has a partnership with AshleyMadison actually

oh nooo a social media post about a ski pass that 30% of us buy every year, my eyes are burning. What do I do? Let's cancel Newschoolers!!

Next their gonna post epic pass advertisement 😱😱😱😱

@LANTASKIgallant

pun intended?

pokermanoh nooo a social media post about a ski pass that 30% of us buy every year, my eyes are burning. What do I do? Let's cancel Newschoolers!!

Hahaha ok beater

danbrownpun intended?

IYKYK

:(

TRVP_ANGELNS has a partnership with AshleyMadison actually

@LANTASKIIYKYK

This tells me everything.

If you think IKON is ruining skiing, you need some new priorities in life.

Just to add, alterra has been advertising the IKON pass on NS since it came out, how did you just notice this now? Sounds like you don't look at NS very often.

imagine complaining that a free site needs to advertise to pay the bills

Do you think the admins get paid in shitposts?

My main priority in life is skiing. When I have to wait 45 minutes in a lift line for every single lap, after a 2 hour drive up the canyon which is usually 30 minutes (oh btw you can def get into the canyon without traffic. But you end up sitting at the resort waiting an hour or two for lifts to spin 🤷‍♂️) on a day when it hasn’t snowed in a week, it makes me want to just fucking quit the sport altogether. The insane overcrowding (in my case, of the cottonwoods) can absolutely be attributed to ikon pass holders. And it’s completely ruining the experience for me, someone who lives, sweats, and breathes skiing. Collective passes like IKON and EPIC will be the death of the “local” skier. Everyone who’s serious about the sport will turn to the skin track. Resorts will become more luxurious, more expensive, and people getting a taste of the resorts bc of IKON will move to ski towns and drive the cost of living up, pushing out the locals who’ve made endless amounts of sacrifice to do this sport that we’re so in love with. It’s sad to see the canyons overrun. And it’s sad to see you act as if IKON/EPOC has zero effect on the skiing experience for EVERYONE who shows up to those resorts. Have fun with your 2 hour long lines in 2025

eheathIf you think IKON is ruining skiing, you need some new priorities in life.

**This post was edited on Mar 12th 2021 at 11:40:32am

CamJeppMy main priority in life is skiing. When I have to wait 45 minutes in a lift line for every single lap, after a 2 hour drive up the canyon which is usually 30 minutes (oh btw you can def get into the canyon without traffic. But you end up sitting at the resort waiting an hour or two for lifts to spin 🤷‍♂️) on a day when it hasn’t snowed in a week, it makes me want to just fucking quit the sport altogether. The insane overcrowding (in my case, of the cottonwoods) can absolutely be attributed to ikon pass holders. And it’s completely ruining the experience for me, someone who lives, sweats, and breaths skiing. Collective passes like IKON and EPIC will be the death of the “local” skier. Everyone who’s serious about the sport will turn to the skin track. Resorts will become more luxurious, more expensive, and people getting a taste of the resorts bc of IKON will move to ski towns and drive the cost of living up, pushing out the locals who’ve made endless amounts of sacrifice to do this sport that we’re so in love with. It’s sad to see the canyons overrun. And it’s sad to see you act as if IKON/EPOC has zero effect on the skiing experience for EVERYONE who shows up to those resorts. Have fun with your 2 hour long lines in 2025

I hate to break it to you, but thats not because of IKON or EPIC. Ski somewhere else if you don't want to deal with crowds, you're skiing at one of the most popular ski destinations in the country. These resorts continue to operate FOR YOU because of this tourism. Tourism has fueled the ski industry since day 1, its not any different today than it was 10 years ago, people just got instagram now so they can constantly complain, gimme a fucking break dude do you not realize how fucking petty you sound?

CamJeppMy main priority in life is skiing. When I have to wait 45 minutes in a lift line for every single lap, after a 2 hour drive up the canyon which is usually 30 minutes (oh btw you can def get into the canyon without traffic. But you end up sitting at the resort waiting an hour or two for lifts to spin 🤷‍♂️) on a day when it hasn’t snowed in a week, it makes me want to just fucking quit the sport altogether. The insane overcrowding (in my case, of the cottonwoods) can absolutely be attributed to ikon pass holders. And it’s completely ruining the experience for me, someone who lives, sweats, and breathes skiing. Collective passes like IKON and EPIC will be the death of the “local” skier. Everyone who’s serious about the sport will turn to the skin track. Resorts will become more luxurious, more expensive, and people getting a taste of the resorts bc of IKON will move to ski towns and drive the cost of living up, pushing out the locals who’ve made endless amounts of sacrifice to do this sport that we’re so in love with. It’s sad to see the canyons overrun. And it’s sad to see you act as if IKON/EPOC has zero effect on the skiing experience for EVERYONE who shows up to those resorts. Have fun with your 2 hour long lines in 2025

**This post was edited on Mar 12th 2021 at 11:40:32am

im not reading this so... sorry or congrats..

I'm all for any ad revenue this site can scrape together.

Tbh I just don’t want beaters from out of state skiing my cottonwood canyons

CamJeppMy main priority in life is skiing. When I have to wait 45 minutes in a lift line for every single lap, after a 2 hour drive up the canyon which is usually 30 minutes (oh btw you can def get into the canyon without traffic. But you end up sitting at the resort waiting an hour or two for lifts to spin 🤷‍♂️) on a day when it hasn’t snowed in a week, it makes me want to just fucking quit the sport altogether. The insane overcrowding (in my case, of the cottonwoods) can absolutely be attributed to ikon pass holders. And it’s completely ruining the experience for me, someone who lives, sweats, and breathes skiing. Collective passes like IKON and EPIC will be the death of the “local” skier. Everyone who’s serious about the sport will turn to the skin track. Resorts will become more luxurious, more expensive, and people getting a taste of the resorts bc of IKON will move to ski towns and drive the cost of living up, pushing out the locals who’ve made endless amounts of sacrifice to do this sport that we’re so in love with. It’s sad to see the canyons overrun. And it’s sad to see you act as if IKON/EPOC has zero effect on the skiing experience for EVERYONE who shows up to those resorts. Have fun with your 2 hour long lines in 2025

**This post was edited on Mar 12th 2021 at 11:40:32am

Probably not cuz of Ikon bud. Outdoor recreation has been gaining popularity in recent years and guess what, you live in an area that has plenty to offer. Take away Ikon and youd probably have the same problems.

CamJeppMy main priority in life is skiing. When I have to wait 45 minutes in a lift line for every single lap, after a 2 hour drive up the canyon which is usually 30 minutes (oh btw you can def get into the canyon without traffic. But you end up sitting at the resort waiting an hour or two for lifts to spin 🤷‍♂️) on a day when it hasn’t snowed in a week, it makes me want to just fucking quit the sport altogether. The insane overcrowding (in my case, of the cottonwoods) can absolutely be attributed to ikon pass holders. And it’s completely ruining the experience for me, someone who lives, sweats, and breathes skiing. Collective passes like IKON and EPIC will be the death of the “local” skier. Everyone who’s serious about the sport will turn to the skin track. Resorts will become more luxurious, more expensive, and people getting a taste of the resorts bc of IKON will move to ski towns and drive the cost of living up, pushing out the locals who’ve made endless amounts of sacrifice to do this sport that we’re so in love with. It’s sad to see the canyons overrun. And it’s sad to see you act as if IKON/EPOC has zero effect on the skiing experience for EVERYONE who shows up to those resorts. Have fun with your 2 hour long lines in 2025

**This post was edited on Mar 12th 2021 at 11:40:32am

This 100%

I’ve skied only 13 days this year because the overcrowding by Kooks with Sprinter vans have ruined the wasatch

**This post was edited on Mar 12th 2021 at 12:23:51pm

@LANTASKITbh I just don’t want beaters from out of state skiing my cottonwood canyons

I really hope this is just a joke. Beaters have been skiing the cottonwoods since way before either of us moved to utah brother, imagine what it was like before the olympics.

**This post was edited on Mar 12th 2021 at 12:24:17pm

@LANTASKIThis 100%

I’ve skied only 13 days this year because the overcrowding by Kooks rocking Sprinter vans have ruined the wasatch

Also, aren't you being a bit harsh for circumstances of this year? every ski resort has been a madhouse this year because of covid. But you could just move back to atlanta...

eheathI really hope this is just a joke. Beaters have been skiing the cottonwoods since way before either of us moved to utah brother, imagine what it was like before the olympics.

**This post was edited on Mar 12th 2021 at 12:24:17pm

Number of beaters is reaching critical levels.

CamJeppMy main priority in life is skiing. When I have to wait 45 minutes in a lift line for every single lap, after a 2 hour drive up the canyon which is usually 30 minutes (oh btw you can def get into the canyon without traffic. But you end up sitting at the resort waiting an hour or two for lifts to spin 🤷‍♂️) on a day when it hasn’t snowed in a week, it makes me want to just fucking quit the sport altogether. The insane overcrowding (in my case, of the cottonwoods) can absolutely be attributed to ikon pass holders. And it’s completely ruining the experience for me, someone who lives, sweats, and breathes skiing. Collective passes like IKON and EPIC will be the death of the “local” skier. Everyone who’s serious about the sport will turn to the skin track. Resorts will become more luxurious, more expensive, and people getting a taste of the resorts bc of IKON will move to ski towns and drive the cost of living up, pushing out the locals who’ve made endless amounts of sacrifice to do this sport that we’re so in love with. It’s sad to see the canyons overrun. And it’s sad to see you act as if IKON/EPOC has zero effect on the skiing experience for EVERYONE who shows up to those resorts. Have fun with your 2 hour long lines in 2025

**This post was edited on Mar 12th 2021 at 11:40:32am

The pricing-out of locals has been ongoing for a while now, Summit County and Wasatch Counties specifically. Its not the cottonwoods but its a way worse situation going on on the other side of the range. At least SLC has affordable living and tons of jobs that pay well.

I grew up in SLC, skied brighton as a kid as well as the other cottonwood resorts, and yeah its a bummer to see those places absolutely rocked with people, but it was only a matter of time before Utah became the hotbed for ski trips. The valley is blowing up, more people moving every single season, like at one point we gotta address the Local congestion on top of Tourist congestion too. Us locals crowding-up the canyons are just as much of an issue than the Ikon congestion or whatever.

**This post was edited on Mar 12th 2021 at 12:35:07pm

eheathJust to add, alterra has been advertising the IKON pass on NS since it came out, how did you just notice this now? Sounds like you don't look at NS very often.

Really hate to be THAT GUY but Eheath is right here. This ain’t nothing new, NS needs to make guap so they can host our shit posts and Altera just happens to be one of those brands supporting, has been for a while too.

BigPurpleSkiSuitNumber of beaters is reaching critical levels.

Says the guy who moved to utah recently... im not saying im better but you gotta understand that your statement could be said for people like you too, SLC's population doubled from 2010 to 2020, either embrace it or leave thats all you can do.

@LANTASKIThis 100%

I’ve skied only 13 days this year because the overcrowding by Kooks with Sprinter vans have ruined the wasatch

**This post was edited on Mar 12th 2021 at 12:23:51pm

Hate to break it to you but you can blame instagram influencers posting nonstop pow shots making skiing cool again. maybe 1/4 cars have been from out of state at alta on pow days, so its not a visitor problem. Its mostly tech/finance bros working remote that idolize unofficial and jerry of the day crowding the resorts, they all leave by noon anyways, so just be patient take an early lunch and get your hot laps in after

eheathSays the guy who moved to utah recently... im not saying im better but you gotta understand that your statement could be said for people like you too, SLC's population doubled from 2010 to 2020, either embrace it or leave thats all you can do.

How about people who live here ski here and not every single person from California and other surrounding states flying in on pow days with Ikon passes

BigPurpleSkiSuitHow about people who live here ski here and not every single person from California and other surrounding states flying in on pow days with Ikon passes

I don't think the passes make a big difference for these people, if they can afford to fly anywhere at the drop of a hat, they'll just buy a day pass 🤷‍♂️

If you ski at a nice resort you’re gonna get big lines. I ski at a small resort and sometimes you can walk straight on the lift on weekends. Why are you mad that other people want to ski at a good resort? If you really care about lift lines that much, go support a small hill and embrace 5 minutes of skiing per lap. Or hike.

utah needs a solid 14-day stretch of high pressure and 50 degree temps and fun spring vibes again like last weekend. We're way too fucking angry this season lol

CamJeppMy main priority in life is skiing. When I have to wait 45 minutes in a lift line for every single lap, after a 2 hour drive up the canyon which is usually 30 minutes (oh btw you can def get into the canyon without traffic. But you end up sitting at the resort waiting an hour or two for lifts to spin 🤷‍♂️) on a day when it hasn’t snowed in a week, it makes me want to just fucking quit the sport altogether. The insane overcrowding (in my case, of the cottonwoods) can absolutely be attributed to ikon pass holders. And it’s completely ruining the experience for me, someone who lives, sweats, and breathes skiing. Collective passes like IKON and EPIC will be the death of the “local” skier. Everyone who’s serious about the sport will turn to the skin track. Resorts will become more luxurious, more expensive, and people getting a taste of the resorts bc of IKON will move to ski towns and drive the cost of living up, pushing out the locals who’ve made endless amounts of sacrifice to do this sport that we’re so in love with. It’s sad to see the canyons overrun. And it’s sad to see you act as if IKON/EPOC has zero effect on the skiing experience for EVERYONE who shows up to those resorts. Have fun with your 2 hour long lines in 2025

**This post was edited on Mar 12th 2021 at 11:40:32am

Lol dude you live in a multi million person city with skiing ~30 minutes away and you're surprised that there is traffic when the only way up the canyon is a shitty 2 lane road, they are limiting parking, and the popularity of all outdoor sports is exploding due to covid?

Its not to blame on the Ikon dog. Its just the situation and the rising popularity of skiing. Skiing has blown up in popularity multiple times throughout its history, it will slow down again....then you can have lifts

Do you know what the real problem i saw when I was there? The 'locals'. A solid 8/10 cars that we saw in traffic were solo people. Solo people arent ikooks taking a trip with the fam. They are mostly 'local' salt lake skiers. Learn to carpool salt lake. you could halve the traffic problem.

Also this post is dripping with elitism. Only you are allowed in the canyons because you're a true local? gimme a break. you're adding to the traffic just as much as anyone else.

Dont get me wrong when the Ikon came for tahoe it was easy to blame the crowds and shit show on the pass. Then I realised that the issue is still the same ole same. We live next to the bay and in one of the most popular ski destinations in the world. Traffic and families taking ski trips is a part of living there. If you don't want that, be a 'real' core skier and move to mt. Boho or something.

eheathI don't think the passes make a big difference for these people, if they can afford to fly anywhere at the drop of a hat, they'll just buy a day pass 🤷‍♂️

Based on liftlines and canyon lines alone, I'd say the passes have made a difference. Maybe part of it's COVID year, but Ikon pass has definitely made a difference. I think the logical solution is to have to reserve your Ikon days ahead of time. That's a compromise right there, still get Ikon dollars, and also make sure that powder days aren't hour long lifelines.

BigPurpleSkiSuitI'm all for any ad revenue this site can scrape together.

NS is the only site i have whitelisted on ublock origin. It's pretty annoying having to watch long ass ads for videos only for a youtube ad to play next, but for the amount that ive gained from using this site, it's worth it. Thanks NS

ReturnToMonkeyNS is the only site i have whitelisted on ublock origin. It's pretty annoying having to watch long ass ads for videos only for a youtube ad to play next, but for the amount that ive gained from using this site, it's worth it. Thanks NS

Hint: Refresh Button

Thank me later.

BradFiAusNzCoCaThe email too.

They even sent it to my wife and she doesn’t even use NS. It’s gotta be them tracking her phone in close proximity to mine. What’s that called again?

**This post was edited on Mar 12th 2021 at 9:24:44am

Sounds like you used her email to enter one of our contests over the winter because that's where we get the vast majority of new emails to add to our newsletter database besides people who subscribe in the footer at the bottom of any page on NS.

lmfao you don’t know me dawg. I work up at the bird and carpool with two other coworkers every single damn day that we’re scheduled. And I don’t even have enough money to own snow tires. Or to afford driving my personal vehicle up the canyon for ski days. I prolly ride the bus 8/10 times that I ski. And I can’t fucking afford to move.

Profahoben_212Lol dude you live in a multi million person city with skiing ~30 minutes away and you're surprised that there is traffic when the only way up the canyon is a shitty 2 lane road, they are limiting parking, and the popularity of all outdoor sports is exploding due to covid?

Its not to blame on the Ikon dog. Its just the situation and the rising popularity of skiing. Skiing has blown up in popularity multiple times throughout its history, it will slow down again....then you can have lifts

Do you know what the real problem i saw when I was there? The 'locals'. A solid 8/10 cars that we saw in traffic were solo people. Solo people arent ikooks taking a trip with the fam. They are mostly 'local' salt lake skiers. Learn to carpool salt lake. you could halve the traffic problem.

Also this post is dripping with elitism. Only you are allowed in the canyons because you're a true local? gimme a break. you're adding to the traffic just as much as anyone else.

Dont get me wrong when the Ikon came for tahoe it was easy to blame the crowds and shit show on the pass. Then I realised that the issue is still the same ole same. We live next to the bay and in one of the most popular ski destinations in the world. Traffic and families taking ski trips is a part of living there. If you don't want that, be a 'real' core skier and move to mt. Boho or something.

Just timed this shit. Took me a solid 45 seconds to read. Just don’t respond next time if you’re actually not interested in reading what I have to say

vibecheckim not reading this so... sorry or congrats..

CamJepplmfao you don’t know me dawg. I work up at the bird and carpool with two other coworkers every single damn day that we’re scheduled. And I don’t even have enough money to own snow tires. Or to afford driving my personal vehicle up the canyon for ski days. I prolly ride the bus 8/10 times that I ski. And I can’t fucking afford to move.

You chose the ski bum lifestyle my dude.

CamJeppJust timed this shit. Took me a solid 45 seconds to read. Just don’t respond next time if you’re actually not interested in reading what I have to say

Why do people feel the need to say that shit? Just don't read it and move on, no need to be a dick. It makes you look like a smooth brain for not being able to read long texts, that aren't even that long.

and it’s not just that! Leo i know you saw those ticket scan stats that someone leaked to BeaterMeater. Ikon passes vastly outnumber day ticket scans regularly, and are very close to matching season pass numbers (which is NOT normal)

BigPurpleSkiSuitBased on liftlines and canyon lines alone, I'd say the passes have made a difference. Maybe part of it's COVID year, but Ikon pass has definitely made a difference. I think the logical solution is to have to reserve your Ikon days ahead of time. That's a compromise right there, still get Ikon dollars, and also make sure that powder days aren't hour long lifelines.

Dude don’t be a fucking douche bag. Literally the only way I could afford any season pass was by getting one for free by working at a resort. I had to choose between being able to afford my next two months of rent or purchasing a damn ski pass. My parents aren’t rich. And I’m fucking poor. I make sacrifices to be able to ride lifts. Similar to a ton of other born and bred locals that have no other option.

eheathYou chose the ski bum lifestyle my dude.

CamJepplmfao you don’t know me dawg. I work up at the bird and carpool with two other coworkers every single damn day that we’re scheduled. And I don’t even have enough money to own snow tires. Or to afford driving my personal vehicle up the canyon for ski days. I prolly ride the bus 8/10 times that I ski. And I can’t fucking afford to move.

U seem like a angry dude 🤠

how r the ski bunnies at the bird?

CamJepplmfao you don’t know me dawg. I work up at the bird and carpool with two other coworkers every single damn day that we’re scheduled. And I don’t even have enough money to own snow tires. Or to afford driving my personal vehicle up the canyon for ski days. I prolly ride the bus 8/10 times that I ski. And I can’t fucking afford to move.

Im really fucking confused then. You're mad at the Ikon pass because the bird isn't paying you enough? Huh? I don't really understand what your point is?

Also what job do you have. Bumping lifts? Giving lessons? Ski team? Rentals?

and yeah my point still stands. Good on you for carpooling or riding the bus, but a ton of people arent and that's a good portion of the traffic issue.

CamJeppDude don’t be a fucking douche bag. Literally the only way I could afford any season pass was by getting one for free by working at a resort. I had to choose between being able to afford my next two months of rent or purchasing a damn ski pass. My parents aren’t rich. And I’m fucking poor. I make sacrifices to be able to ride lifts. Similar to a ton of other born and bred locals that have no other option.

Look man if you're actually having issues with finances, you probably shouldn't work at a ski resort. You can work at mcdonalds and make more money than an entry level job at a resort, its not an excuse dude you work at a ski resort because you love skiing, you made that choice don't give me this bullshit brother.

CamJeppDude don’t be a fucking douche bag. Literally the only way I could afford any season pass was by getting one for free by working at a resort. I had to choose between being able to afford my next two months of rent or purchasing a damn ski pass. My parents aren’t rich. And I’m fucking poor. I make sacrifices to be able to ride lifts. Similar to a ton of other born and bred locals that have no other option.

Ur so core

The New Age of the crusty Cottonwood canyon skier is hilarious, except we get riled up over a fuckin piece of plastic and meme pages. Unreal.

CamJeppDude don’t be a fucking douche bag. Literally the only way I could afford any season pass was by getting one for free by working at a resort. I had to choose between being able to afford my next two months of rent or purchasing a damn ski pass. My parents aren’t rich. And I’m fucking poor. I make sacrifices to be able to ride lifts. Similar to a ton of other born and bred locals that have no other option.

You still chose the ski bum lifestyle just like I did by working for NS.

You could've gone to college, a trade school (which will probably pay more than a 4yr degree anyways when you're done), got a construction job in SLC from May to October every year (of which there are plenty that pay $20/hr+ with no experience netting you $18k for 6 months of work) ect to pay for a pass. What's your job in the summer? Let me guess, raft guiding?

Plenty of ways to work hard in the off season to cover winter expenses so you don't HAVE to work at a soul sucking resort because "you have no other option."