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I'm curious what everyone's ski media consumption habits and preferred methods are. Mainly doing research out of curiosity and to better understand what people want from ski projects in terms of length/commitment. Thanks for participating if you decide to!
**This thread was edited on Oct 6th 2020 at 10:58:13pm
idk, short and sweet, kind of like the ON3P team movies right now gets right to the point with no BS filler or anything like that, but I also miss the production behind all of our favorite feature-length films from companies way back in the day and 2 to 3 minute trailers that drop in the late summer/early fall just in time for premier season.
DeebieSkeebiesidk, short and sweet, kind of like the ON3P team movies right now gets right to the point with no BS filler or anything like that, but I also miss the production behind all of our favorite feature-length films from companies way back in the day and 2 to 3 minute trailers that drop in the late summer/early fall just in time for premier season.
I think this ultimately comes down to the direction that ski films are trending towards. We will always have __ amount of feature lengths from the big company's but I think level 1s decision to move away from that is a good sign of what people are starting to gravitate towards.
tyler1719I think this ultimately comes down to the direction that ski films are trending towards. We will always have __ amount of feature lengths from the big company's but I think level 1s decision to move away from that is a good sign of what people are starting to gravitate towards.
I agree entirely, and its just such a costly endeavor to put together a full film nowadays with all the costs involved. Id be interested to see how much TGR and MSP make annually to still be able to put together full movies like they do
DeebieSkeebiesI agree entirely, and its just such a costly endeavor to put together a full film nowadays with all the costs involved. Id be interested to see how much TGR and MSP make annually to still be able to put together full movies like they do
This is all speculation so take it with a grain of salt, but I wouldn't be surprised if they make just enough to get by from ski movies. Im guessing their money comes from contracted work shooting commercials and whatnot and that's how they fund their ski movies/passion projects
DeebieSkeebiesI agree entirely, and its just such a costly endeavor to put together a full film nowadays with all the costs involved. Id be interested to see how much TGR and MSP make annually to still be able to put together full movies like they do
TGR and MSP have some pretty solid revenue streams via their tours, movie sales and sponsors.
eheathTGR and MSP have some pretty solid revenue streams via their tours, movie sales and sponsors.
Gotcha, it's just hard for me to wrap my head around how many people may actually see an MSP feature length film during a tour. I did almost license last years MSP movie for a premier on our college campus and it was expensive but not so much that they'd be rolling in the dough. Very interesting how money moves through the ski film industry
tyler1719Gotcha, it's just hard for me to wrap my head around how many people may actually see an MSP feature length film during a tour. I did almost license last years MSP movie for a premier on our college campus and it was expensive but not so much that they'd be rolling in the dough. Very interesting how money moves through the ski film industry
The answer is not that much, established companies like MSP and TGR make the most money, while a crew like Strictly makes zero dollars on skiing, some in between crews and such but there is not very much money in ski films.
I don't want to spam ski gabber with polls so I'll just ask here...what is the preferred length of project for a multiple athlete/multiple location project? So not just a solo edit or one-trip video. Some examples of what im thinking of are Nothing, Lite years, the past couple faction productions, strictly...ect. ?
Insta content: 15-20 secs max
Am edit: 2-3 minutes
Pro edit: 2-6 minutes (longer needs some more variety or good sequencing though)
Am video: 10-20 minutes
Pro video: 20-30 minutes
Feature length: 45-60 minutes
IMO park edits get pretty boring over 5 mins in length unless you can kind of weave some sort of narrative in with a change of location or a special feature, or keep the energy up really well. Tbh my tolerance is a lot higher for skiing that’s really steezy and well shot over just tech tricks too (sorry to all the comp kids and ams dropping 5 minute iPhone edits, I ain’t watching that shit)
a_burgerInsta content: 15-20 secs maxAm edit: 2-3 minutes
Pro edit: 2-6 minutes (longer needs some more variety or good sequencing though)
Am video: 10-20 minutes
Pro video: 20-30 minutes
Feature length: 45-60 minutes
IMO park edits get pretty boring over 5 mins in length unless you can kind of weave some sort of narrative in with a change of location or a special feature, or keep the energy up really well. Tbh my tolerance is a lot higher for skiing that’s really steezy and well shot over just tech tricks too (sorry to all the comp kids and ams dropping 5 minute iPhone edits, I ain’t watching that shit)
Thanks for the feedback! This is the exact sort of response I was looking for
I'd say if the attempt is to make something truly memorable/special the ideal would be to be around an hour for feature length, or if its just an edit 5 - 10 mins. Think of Partly Cloudy, JOSS edits, Wallisch project as some examples.
If you want people to think about it for more than 10 seconds I'd stay clear of insta, that may just be me being nostalgic though.