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If I could work remotely I would look for the farthest points of earth I could get wifi. Idk people are shitty, the more dense people get the more beat. Eventually you have cities which have some cool architecture but are just a bullshit eyesore in the earth.
Idk, I think I hate people. Luckily people will keep having too many kids and there will be more and more people. Eventually we can have strip malls in the national parks. People are overrated.
That's a tough one. I like people for the intelligent, creative, and funny sides if them, but I hate the social structures we form. It's complicated. Basically, we live in a society controlled by a dominance hierarchy, where we really are stepping over one another. We preach acceptance and love, but when someone is annoying as fuck, just about everyone will avoid them and exclude them. I want to say we could literally have a heaven on earth if we all cooperated, but I know that's not realistic because of our intolerances towards one another. Free will is a blessing and a curse. Without it we would be slaves, with it there is suffering for all.
We're slaves anyways though, so free will just gives us the opportunity to build something great inside of our third-dimensional prison and then push everyone we don't like to the bottom so they can support our greedy lifestyles in which we pretend to love each other.
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i guess it helps to learn to just deal with assholes and the fact life is full of them, because it does make the interactions with great people much more worthwhile or helping someone at least or being around family or friends or peers. i try to hold out for that, though its hard especially nowadays.
Thats pretty much why I left Quebec City to never come back. City people are fucked. They love superficial shit and their minds are closed as fuck.
The problem of moving to a small city is that people start showing up, buying up all the property and turn it into a smaller version of a big city. Basically what happened to Nelson, BC. Just a bunch of rich city kids dominate the mountain town. Most hate snow, winter, forest and constantly bitch about how Vancouver is better.
theabortionatorBumping this because I wanna visit yellowtone since right next to it. Actually drove through to get to idaho the other day, but I hate people.
Yellowstone is definitely worth going through, but of the ones I've been to, it's the national park that sucks the most because of the people. I think this is mostly because you don't have to walk more than a few hundred yards away from the parking lots to see the main sights (as opposed to the Tetons, RMNP, Sand Dunes, Grand Canyon, Yosemite (to a degree), etc., where the best stuff at least requires some physical movement). Granted, I've never had the opportunity to spend more than a few days there, so I'm sure I'm missing some of the cooler, less popular spots, but that's my take.
patagonialukeYellowstone is definitely worth going through, but of the ones I've been to, it's the national park that sucks the most because of the people. I think this is mostly because you don't have to walk more than a few hundred yards away from the parking lots to see the main sights (as opposed to the Tetons, RMNP, Sand Dunes, Grand Canyon, Yosemite (to a degree), etc., where the best stuff at least requires some physical movement). Granted, I've never had the opportunity to spend more than a few days there, so I'm sure I'm missing some of the cooler, less popular spots, but that's my take.
It's like a fucking amusement park, everyone hopping in cars and driving from one point to another. It was kind of annoying, someone told me that Zion is pretty bad too
CLQIt's like a fucking amusement park, everyone hopping in cars and driving from one point to another. It was kind of annoying, someone told me that Zion is pretty bad too
I did zion in early may a few years ago and it wasn't bad. But too crowded for me. I was there mid week. Luckily I knocked out angels landing in the morning and wasnt crowded but still more people than I want to see.
I'd recomend observation point. Longer and better view. Actually view of angels landing and less crowded.
I did fairlyland loop at bryce. That was like 8 miles prolly and saw 4 people thats my shit. Also did a loop at canyonlands that was 8 -10 and similar maybe 6 people. That's hiking.
Idk i remember hiking kilimanjaro and rock climbing next to tourists because Id rather fall off a mtn than wait behind slow ass tourist with no etiquette. People slow as shitnin general, taking breaks blocking the trail. Frig off. I get your church prolly paid for you to go to help fund teach the black people about jesus missions but whatever.
Idk. Only did it because i was there and already living at 10 k feet.
theabortionatorIf I could work remotely I would look for the farthest points of earth I could get wifi. Idk people are shitty, the more dense people get the more beat. Eventually you have cities which have some cool architecture but are just a bullshit eyesore in the earth.
Idk, I think I hate people. Luckily people will keep having too many kids and there will be more and more people. Eventually we can have strip malls in the national parks. People are overrated.
Meh, alot of people are sweethearts though. You just gotta find them.
i would suggest somewhere in summit county colorado. Im very biased but ive skiied alot of places and frisco is kind of like southpark. People there are shameless but very laid back and friendly.
DolanReloadedMeh, alot of people are sweethearts though. You just gotta find them.
i would suggest somewhere in summit county colorado. Im very biased but ive skiied alot of places and frisco is kind of like southpark. People there are shameless but very laid back and friendly.
theabortionatorI did zion in early may a few years ago and it wasn't bad. But too crowded for me. I was there mid week. Luckily I knocked out angels landing in the morning and wasnt crowded but still more people than I want to see.
I'd recomend observation point. Longer and better view. Actually view of angels landing and less crowded.
I did fairlyland loop at bryce. That was like 8 miles prolly and saw 4 people thats my shit. Also did a loop at canyonlands that was 8 -10 and similar maybe 6 people. That's hiking.
Idk i remember hiking kilimanjaro and rock climbing next to tourists because Id rather fall off a mtn than wait behind slow ass tourist with no etiquette. People slow as shitnin general, taking breaks blocking the trail. Frig off. I get your church prolly paid for you to go to help fund teach the black people about jesus missions but whatever.
Idk. Only did it because i was there and already living at 10 k feet.
Idk fuck i hate people
This reminds me of this summer made the mistake of hiking in the park (once) and was constantly yelling hey can I slip by you here because I was passing every fkng person on the hike
IF I live to be an old man, I will find the most remote corner of this planet to live out the rest of my days off the land and die in peace far far away from any piece of shit human.
ronders_IF I live to be an old man, I will find the most remote corner of this planet to live out the rest of my days off the land and die in peace far far away from any piece of shit human.
ronders_IF I live to be an old man, I will find the most remote corner of this planet to live out the rest of my days off the land and die in peace far far away from any piece of shit human.
theabortionatorMy eyes teared up at the thought
What got you two to the point where you are so sick and tired of people?
i feel like unless your really an eyesore to look at, people will treat you with just as much warmth and love as you treat them with.
maybe you guys just havent found the right place to live yet.
i almost took a job teaching physics in an english private school in cabo st lucas mexico years ago. Im not saying to do that but for me it kind of made me realize there were a ton of different directions you can go in life.
Abortionator you always seem like a pretty personable guy with a sleigh wit. I dont know why you wouldnt want to be around people.
DolanReloadedWhat got you two to the point where you are so sick and tired of people?
i feel like unless your really an eyesore to look at, people will treat you with just as much warmth and love as you treat them with.
maybe you guys just havent found the right place to live yet.
i almost took a job teaching physics in an english private school in cabo st lucas mexico years ago. Im not saying to do that but for me it kind of made me realize there were a ton of different directions you can go in life.
Abortionator you always seem like a pretty personable guy with a sleigh wit. I dont know why you wouldnt want to be around people.
I like people. I hate crowds, strip malls, traffic, dumb tourists hiking, etc. I'd much rather live near a lake that's not special but has water, some okay mtns with decent hiking, and some ski hills.
Fuck any top 10 whatever destinations. Those are the places that were cool 20+ years ago. Now they're just full of douchers that think moving their from the city will change their lives or whatever.
Also the rich people miving from cities driving up the housing prices. Not worth psying 3x as much to live in a place I don't like.
Summit is beautiful, tahoe is beautiful, but so are other places that are less crowded.
Its like skiing. Would you rather a day that's the best ever but you ca only get one crowded run in because it's so crowded? Or ride a decent day with no lines? Id take the no lines every time.
theabortionatorI like people. I hate crowds, strip malls, traffic, dumb tourists hiking, etc. I'd much rather live near a lake that's not special but has water, some okay mtns with decent hiking, and some ski hills.
Fuck any top 10 whatever destinations. Those are the places that were cool 20+ years ago. Now they're just full of douchers that think moving their from the city will change their lives or whatever.
Also the rich people miving from cities driving up the housing prices. Not worth psying 3x as much to live in a place I don't like.
Summit is beautiful, tahoe is beautiful, but so are other places that are less crowded.
Its like skiing. Would you rather a day that's the best ever but you ca only get one crowded run in because it's so crowded? Or ride a decent day with no lines? Id take the no lines every time.
I hear you.
i remember when summit resorts got so much snow in april they stayed open for an extra week into may. I was riding 2.5 feet of fresh on a foggy overcast day on a completely empty mountain (i guess bc all the denverites were busy golfing in denver) and it was pretty magical. I like to ski alone sometimes, and thats enough isolation for me as far as alone time is concerned. But people dont bother me. If they did i would just ignore them.
Traveling is def preferable to buying shit you doing need. Small towns can be cool. Some people need a certain level if drama and it's more noticeable in small towns because less happening but plenty if people are nice and either genuinely care or don't give a fuck what you're doing with your life.
Interesting. Heidi klum said something similar about how americans say “how are you” when they really dont care how you are they are just doing it because they want to think they are a good person so they feel better about themselves.... or something like that.
i disagree with her logic tho. I always ask ppl i run into how they are doing or if im at mcdonalds ill be like “how many hrs you got left in your shift” but i really do care. I want to be a positive force in the non internet world.
i think the truth is neither kind nor polite which is why anonymous people on the internet seem so rude and callous. Its not personal. Its kind of like the saying “you dont bring a knife to a shootout”. In this case the “shootout” is akin to an argument about what the truth is, and the “knife” represents politeness, or better put, any idea that has been revised to be polite and not offend people. You cant win a shootout with a knife, just like you cant win an argument without the cold honest truth, even if it is impolite and hurts peoples feelings.
technically I don't hate anyone but some people get on my nerves, some people are to know it all/egotistical, some people talk too much, and some people just have the need to drag me down to their level but I don't "hate" them I just avoid them
I'm just glad I won't live long enough to see suburbia encroach on all the nice open wild lands in this country. There are people that literally view it as "we've got plenty of land we're good" fuck that. I like some mountains and forests that don't have housing development, and walmarts on them.
Idk. We're just going to keep expanding and ruining the landscape forever. It will take a long time but it doesn't seem like we'll ever stop until we get there.
theabortionatorI'm just glad I won't live long enough to see suburbia encroach on all the nice open wild lands in this country. There are people that literally view it as "we've got plenty of land we're good" fuck that. I like some mountains and forests that don't have housing development, and walmarts on them.
Idk. We're just going to keep expanding and ruining the landscape forever. It will take a long time but it doesn't seem like we'll ever stop until we get there.
It's this for me. Just imagining ever expanding suburbs eventually covering every flat area and valley. People competing over status and who has the most shit. Eventually turning the world into a wasteland of smog and concrete with no more untouched places, because people just be too worried about living their socialite lifestyles and wanting more and more stuff. I've watched places that were rural just 10 years ago become business parks. And now they'll be left there unoccupied with corona. In a couple decades it'll just be miles and miles of parking lots and glass buildings and cookie cutter houses. Everybody competing to be living an "exclusive" lifestyle but everything looks the same and everyone lives the same.
theabortionatorI'm just glad I won't live long enough to see suburbia encroach on all the nice open wild lands in this country. There are people that literally view it as "we've got plenty of land we're good" fuck that. I like some mountains and forests that don't have housing development, and walmarts on them.
Idk. We're just going to keep expanding and ruining the landscape forever. It will take a long time but it doesn't seem like we'll ever stop until we get there.
I see what your saying but the earth is actually alot bigger than most humans think it is. There is always going to be Plenty of wilderness out there for some pure/natural exploring.
i skied within 15 ft of a 400 pound moose in canyons resort in utah Yrs ago. So even a ski resort is pretty uninterrupted nature.
pretty much every state has areas you could go to find literally zero human footprint.
no matter how much suburbia spreads, you will still find wild untouched natural places, as long as the human population doesnt exceed like 50 billion people. But most estimates ive read say humans will top out at around 9 billion. So dont worry.
I mean the percentage of summit county Co that has at least 1 human within a mile of it is probably less than 10 percent. I dont understand how you dont feel the mountains are wild enough for you.
the ultimate dream is to build a megahouse in a wild area near a ski resort with huge panoramic view windows So you can watch the cougars and mooses wander trek through the snow during a blizzard without knowing you are watching them from inside your house.
human created coziness is one of the things i enjoy about life. I love the wilderness and the idea of being alone sometimes too, but for me its best if you can have both.
DolanReloadedi skied within 15 ft of a 400 pound moose in canyons resort in utah Yrs ago. So even a ski resort is pretty uninterrupted nature.
pretty much every state has areas you could go to find literally zero human footprint.
Gonna have to disagree with you that a ski resort is "uninterrupted nature" with all the hotels and parking lots and ski lifts and restaurants and timeshare condominiums and highways
I saw a roadkill deer on an urban interchange the other day. You see animals close to people like that because we're pushing them into smaller and smaller areas. Everyone wants a massive mountain house with panoramic windows, that's part of the problem. I'd rather live in a city, make my money there, and spend time out in the wilderness alone, on foot preferably, trying to leave little trace behind.
We're expanding at a rapid rate. It's hard to judge because we were born into a world that was already highly developed. But having this "constant expansion" mindset will be our downfall. We have reached a level of technology where we will run out of resources to sustain that technology and its production
ronders_Gonna have to disagree with you that a ski resort is "uninterrupted nature" with all the hotels and parking lots and ski lifts and restaurants and timeshare condominiums and highways
I saw a roadkill deer on an urban interchange the other day. You see animals close to people like that because we're pushing them into smaller and smaller areas. Everyone wants a massive mountain house with panoramic windows, that's part of the problem. I'd rather live in a city, make my money there, and spend time out in the wilderness alone, on foot preferably, trying to leave little trace behind.
We're expanding at a rapid rate. It's hard to judge because we were born into a world that was already highly developed. But having this "constant expansion" mindset will be our downfall. We have reached a level of technology where we will run out of resources to sustain that technology and its production
The expansion will stop. Certain ethnicities such as caucasians are already dying out and not reproducing fast enough to maintain.
if other ethnicities can be convinced to slow down as well then you Ronders will have your stop of expansion.
i have seen so much wildlife at ski resorts i have a hard time imagining the porcupines and foxes and those little white ferret looking things and mooses could give a fuck that there was a resort village at the base of their mountain territory.
a ski mountain is alot closer to “uninterrupted wild nature” than it is to new york city or long island.
*Claims to have gone to Princeton - doesn't know what a fucking opossum is
DolanReloadedThe expansion will stop. Certain ethnicities such as caucasians are already dying out and not reproducing fast enough to maintain.
if other ethnicities can be convinced to slow down as well then you Ronders will have your stop of expansion.
i have seen so much wildlife at ski resorts i have a hard time imagining the porcupines and foxes and those little white ferret looking things and mooses could give a fuck that there was a resort village at the base of their mountain territory.
a ski mountain is alot closer to “uninterrupted wild nature” than it is to new york city or long island.
ronders_It's this for me. Just imagining ever expanding suburbs eventually covering every flat area and valley. People competing over status and who has the most shit. Eventually turning the world into a wasteland of smog and concrete with no more untouched places, because people just be too worried about living their socialite lifestyles and wanting more and more stuff. I've watched places that were rural just 10 years ago become business parks. And now they'll be left there unoccupied with corona. In a couple decades it'll just be miles and miles of parking lots and glass buildings and cookie cutter houses. Everybody competing to be living an "exclusive" lifestyle but everything looks the same and everyone lives the same.
DolanReloadedThe expansion will stop. Certain ethnicities such as caucasians are already dying out and not reproducing fast enough to maintain.
if other ethnicities can be convinced to slow down as well then you Ronders will have your stop of expansion.
i have seen so much wildlife at ski resorts i have a hard time imagining the porcupines and foxes and those little white ferret looking things and mooses could give a fuck that there was a resort village at the base of their mountain territory.
a ski mountain is alot closer to “uninterrupted wild nature” than it is to new york city or long island.
The birthrate has dropped but the rate of suburban expansion is rising.
Everywhere you go new housing developments. People are expanding. Im not all hippie but we kind of are a cancer to this planet.
I like having wild lands. But suburbia will be everywhere eventually. At least I can watch planet earth and remember when there was wild shit.
theabortionatorBeautiful but it's west denver. It's like tahoe but worse and with less water. Although Tahoe is getting more fucked.
But yeah as thread title suggests I hate crowds of dumb tourists.
i get where you're coming from, man. its a grind that getting a bit harder but the sweet moments are sweeter. Its been the busiest its ever been in PC and I think ive had some of my best skiing ever in the last 5 years so take the good with the bad i suppose
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DeebieSkeebiesi get where you're coming from, man. its a grind that getting a bit harder but the sweet moments are sweeter. Its been the busiest its ever been in PC and I think ive had some of my best skiing ever in the last 5 years so take the good with the bad i suppose
**This post was edited on Aug 25th 2020 at 11:44:52pm
Yeah. Im not trying to be salty but just the way I feel. Im not trying to live a billions mikes from civilization I just like some peace and some open landscapes.
theabortionatorThe birthrate has dropped but the rate of suburban expansion is rising.
Everywhere you go new housing developments. People are expanding. Im not all hippie but we kind of are a cancer to this planet.
I like having wild lands. But suburbia will be everywhere eventually. At least I can watch planet earth and remember when there was wild shit.
Suburbia will not one day be everywhere.
right now if you randomly drop a needle onto america it probably has a 0.01% chance of landing in a backyard of some suburb.
in order to rise to the point where suburbs account for 50% of the land area in the us your going to have to build suburbia to be 5000 times larger than what it is now. Thats kind of a stretch, assuming my figures are at least somewhat reasonable
theabortionatorYeah. Im not trying to be salty but just the way I feel. Im not trying to live a billions mikes from civilization I just like some peace and some open landscapes.
theabortionatorIf I could work remotely I would look for the farthest points of earth I could get wifi. Idk people are shitty, the more dense people get the more beat. Eventually you have cities which have some cool architecture but are just a bullshit eyesore in the earth.
Idk, I think I hate people. Luckily people will keep having too many kids and there will be more and more people. Eventually we can have strip malls in the national parks. People are overrated.
So living in a rocky mountain state that has a shit ton of people moving to it, I do understand you... However, you should vote for people who will make it harder for more people to come into the country maybe?
Also, the reason for hating people might be coming from within you. It's not good to hate as it only brings you down under the weight.
coskiier1024So living in a rocky mountain state that has a shit ton of people moving to it, I do understand you... However, you should vote for people who will make it harder for more people to come into the country maybe?
Also, the reason for hating people might be coming from within you. It's not good to hate as it only brings you down under the weight.
Also just if you're interested check this out
Yeah i don't hate immigrants. I don't think we're on the same page at all.